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Edward Steptoe notability

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Also placed on User:Buckshot06 talk page.

Please consider removing the notability template you placed on the Edward Steptoe article. The other tags are perfectly appropriate (needs to be expanded and needs attention by an expert). It doesn't appear that you do much editing in the field of the late 19th century Indian Wars in the western United States territories. The Steptoe story, coupled with the Battle of Pine Creek (which needs an article) was a national story at the time. The following biographical sources have entries on Steptoe:

Biographical Annals of the Civil Government of the United States. During its first century; from original and official sources. By Charles Lanman. Washington, DC: James Anglim, 1876.

Drake's Dictionary of American Biography. Including men of the time, containing nearly 10,000 notices of persons of both sexes, of native and foreign birth, who have been remarkable, or prominently connected with the arts, sciences, literature, politics, or history, of the American continent. By Francis S. Drake. Boston: James R. Osgood & Co., 1872.

Encyclopedia of American Indian Wars, 1492-1890. By Jerry Keenan. Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO, 1997.

Also, you might want to read the main source cited in the stub:

Johnson, Randall A., May 17, 1858. The Ordeal of the Steptoe Command (HistoryLink.org essay No. 8123)

I am totally unaffiliated and unrelated to the Steptoe line and am thus not personally invested in the gentleman. However, I regularly edit and update other articles specifically on the Native Americans and the so-called Indian Wars in that part of the country. In time, the Steptoe article will get my attention, but there are others who work in this same area who might be stimulated to get to this, hence, the creation of the original stub and the placement of useful sources to flesh out the article.

Thank you for considering my request. -- Quartermaster (talk) 03:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T03:00:00.000Z","author":"Quartermaster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T03:00:00.000Z-Edward_Steptoe_notability","replies":[]}}-->

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Removal of notablity, expand, and expert templates

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After some expansion (it may be short, but he's notable and the article is being worked upon), I'm going to go ahead and get rid of these three templates. Feel free to put one or all three back if you deem that fit (I'm not in this for an edit war). They're just such big, ugly boxes hiding a modest article that I think can stand by itself, though, still needs a bit more work. -- Quartermaster (talk) 14:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T14:13:00.000Z","author":"Quartermaster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T14:13:00.000Z-Removal_of_notablity,_expand,_and_expert_templates","replies":[]}}-->

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Competing articles (to do list)

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Looks like in addition to Battle of Pine Creek there is another stub: Steptoe Massacre. Note that it is also referred to as the "Steptoe Disaster." Looks like some clean up is needed, eh?

Feel free to dive in people. I'll get around to this but don't let it stop y'all in the meantime. -- Quartermaster (talk) 15:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T15:14:00.000Z","author":"Quartermaster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T15:14:00.000Z-Competing_articles_(to_do_list)","replies":["c-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T15:21:00.000Z-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T15:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Feh. The AOL article I just put in "External links" calls it "The Battle of Steptoe" and "The Battle of Steptoe Butte." -- Quartermaster (talk) 15:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T15:21:00.000Z","author":"Quartermaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T15:21:00.000Z-Quartermaster-2008-05-27T15:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->