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That isn't a photo of the Tri-State tornado. E_F⁵ 20:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218201100","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EF5-20241218201100-Tri-State_photo","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}-->

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  EvergreenFir (talk) 20:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220200700","author":"EvergreenFir","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EvergreenFir-20241220200700-December_2024","replies":["c-WeatherWriter-20241220201300-EvergreenFir-20241220200700"]}}-->

• @EvergreenFir: I am confused. How did I get a week block for edit warring? In your own notification of blocking me, you stated it would be 48 hours. I am extremely confused how I got blocked longer than the other editor, who is currently reported at AN/I by an entirely different user & who got blocked 10 days ago for edit warring. I have not been blocked previously within the past year (last time was November 2023), and somehow, I earn a week block after you directly stated it would be 48 hours? I’m not going to appeal it until after the 48 hours, but I would like some explanation as to why I earned a week and the other user who continued to edit war post AN/3 report & was previously edit war blocked 2 weeks ago earned less than I did. I would also like an explanation as to why you subjectively stated it would be 48 hours and then altered it to a week. I shall check back in 48 hours, when I will decide if I shall appeal the initial 48 hour block notice you described. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220201300","author":"WeatherWriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WeatherWriter-20241220201300-EvergreenFir-20241220200700","replies":["c-EF5-20241220202400-WeatherWriter-20241220201300","c-EvergreenFir-20241220213000-WeatherWriter-20241220201300"],"displayName":"Weather Event Writer"}}-->

@EvergreenFir: Seconding this, as someone who was largely uninvolved I am appalled at the fact that someone (Luffaloaf) who called me a "retard" (with evidence, by the way) got a shorter block than a user who was reverting unsourced edits. Then again, "you can't argue with administrators". E_F⁵ 20:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220202400","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EF5-20241220202400-WeatherWriter-20241220201300","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200-EF5-20241220202400"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

I’m curious to know exactly where the supposed edit warring happened. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220203200","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200-EF5-20241220202400","replies":["c-TornadoLGS-20241220203500-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200","c-WeatherWriter-20241220203800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200","c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204100-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

@EF5: The block log shows the duration being changed after the intial block due to a prior history of edit warring. @Hurricane Clyde: The edit warring was at 2005 Birmingham tornado. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220203500","author":"TornadoLGS","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TornadoLGS-20241220203500-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200","replies":[]}}-->

@Hurricane Clyde: It was on 2005 Birmingham tornado. I did edit war and when I reported at the AN/3, I acknowledged I edit warred and deserved a WP:BOOMERANG block. But I am just genuinely confused what led to the decision to up the AN/3 stated 48 hours to 1 week. I’m wondering some if it may have been administrator error (mis-click in a tool or something)? The AN/3 discussion was actually closed with the result of both editors blocked for 48 hours, and there is no explanation as to why the 48 hours was upped to a week for me. I 100% accept the edit warring block as I deserved it, but a week is 100% too harsh in my opinion and after a few days, I will probably decide to appeal it, unless I am told why the 48 hours was upped without any additional comments to a week. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220203800","author":"WeatherWriter","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-WeatherWriter-20241220203800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200","replies":["c-Departure\u2013-20241220204400-WeatherWriter-20241220203800"],"displayName":"Weather Event Writer"}}-->

Luffaloaf's block has been expanded to 72 hours, and I'm not sure if this has to do with the ANI report or not. Anyhow, an infobox rating wouldn't be a hill I would want to die on honestly. My advice would have been to let the consensus building run its course rather than continual addition the article. I'll concur that a week-long sitewide block is a little long though. Departure– (talk) 20:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204400","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20241220204400-WeatherWriter-20241220203800","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700-Departure\u2013-20241220204400"]}}-->

Not when the person was previously blocked a month earlier @Departure–. Check the block log. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204700","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700-Departure\u2013-20241220204400","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

Oh, that was in 2023. Oops. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204700","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204700","replies":[],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

I see that now. The page history told me everything I needed to know. And I hate to say it @EF5, but @EvergreenFir was in the right to block both parties involved in the edit war (and yes, that was unambiguously a bona-fide edit war); and policies like WP:3RR apply to ALL parties involved.

And probably the reason why WeatherWriter’s block got extended is rooted in the administrator guidance of that policy, which says that they should take previous blocks into account (and yes; I know you’ve had several previous blocks in the past). Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204100","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204100-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220203200","replies":["c-EF5-20241220204300-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204100"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

I get the block was warranted, but the week-long part wasn't, given the circumstances. E_F⁵ 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204300","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-EF5-20241220204300-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204100","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204600-EF5-20241220204300"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Uhh @EF5, @WeatherWriter, @TornadoLGS; the block log shows that the initial block itself by @EvergreenFir was for a week. Apparently the 48 hour block was for a similar event back in November. I’m sorry @EF5, but @EvergreenFir was in the right to issue a 7-day block. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204600","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204600-EF5-20241220204300","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204600"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

Apparently I misread the year (and @EvergreenFir might have too) the November block was apparently in November 2023; NOT in 2024. Just saw that now. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:48, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220204800","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204800-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204600","replies":["c-EF5-20241220205200-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204800"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

Yes, it was completely unwarranted. E_F⁵ 20:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220205200","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-EF5-20241220205200-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220204800","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}-->

Copy-pasting from AN3: @Hurricane Clyde I was using the script tools when I did this. I then went to block the individuals and, upon reviewing their block logs, found previous edit warring behaviors. Per WP:BLOCK, "Blocks serve to protect the project from harm, and reduce likely future problems. Blocks may escalate in duration if problems recur." Luffaloaf was blocked by Favonian just the other week for 24 hours for edit warring, so I escalated that to 72 hours. WeatherWriter has a rather lengthy block log, and I saw two blocks for edit warring in it. Upon looking again, I see that the second "block" was just an adjustment of the first one which was 72 hours. Regardless, I do not think an escalation from 3 days (72 hours) to 7 days is unreasonable, especially give the other disputative behavior. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220213000","author":"EvergreenFir","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EvergreenFir-20241220213000-WeatherWriter-20241220201300","replies":["c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220214700-EvergreenFir-20241220213000"]}}-->

Well like I said @EvergreenFir, I wasn’t appealing the block on his behalf. I just wanted clarification. Thank you for clarifying. I thought it had something to do with WeatherWriter’s block (and ban) history. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 21:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220214700","author":"Hurricane Clyde","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220214700-EvergreenFir-20241220213000","replies":["c-EF5-20241220214900-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220214700"],"displayName":"Hurricane Clyde \ud83c\udf00"}}-->

@EvergreenFir: Their last block was over a year ago. Does that mean I can give someone a level 3 warning if they received a level 2 warning a year ago? I doubt it. E_F⁵ 21:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220214900","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-EF5-20241220214900-Hurricane_Clyde-20241220214700","replies":["c-EvergreenFir-20241220215600-EF5-20241220214900"],"displayName":"E"}}-->

@EF5 To me, yes. It's not like a veteran editor "forgot" the rules, especially when said editor filed an edit warring complaint on AN3. This was not a "hey, remember we're supposed to use WP:LQ" or some minor issue. This was six reverts in 6.5 hours. If WW wants to appeal the block, I would be fine with any other admin reducing the block if they feel I am being too harsh. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220215600","author":"EvergreenFir","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-EvergreenFir-20241220215600-EF5-20241220214900","replies":["c-EF5-20241220215900-EvergreenFir-20241220215600"]}}-->

Yes, but that doesn't address the length. I get I'm probably being too hostile, but this is someone I've edited with for (almost) a year and never have I seen a week-long edit warring block handed out for actions over a year ago. 2O seems great. I'm not an admin, but a week for six reverts is absurd. Anyways, I'll step back before I also get blocked. :) E_F⁵ 21:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241220215900","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-EF5-20241220215900-EvergreenFir-20241220215600","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}-->