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Welcome!

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Hello, Abrasax123, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially your edits to Oromo Expansions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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July 2023

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Information icon Hello, I'm Yamaguchi先生. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Oromo people have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 14:42, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230706144200","author":"Yamaguchi\u5148\u751f","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yamaguchi\u5148\u751f-20230706144200-July_2023","replies":[]}}-->

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October 2023

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Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Drmies (talk) 23:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231012230600","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-20231012230600-October_2023","replies":[]}}-->

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Oromo expansion

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Hi, the source from Richard pranukst book say and I quote; “for the most part the Oromo lived south of present day Ethiopia”. That is northern Kenya. He mentioned no word of southern Ethiopia. 2A00:A041:3D5E:CB00:AC7C:91D:C7B0:742D (talk) 00:39, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231019003900","author":"2A00:A041:3D5E:CB00:AC7C:91D:C7B0:742D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A00:A041:3D5E:CB00:AC7C:91D:C7B0:742D-20231019003900-Oromo_expansion","replies":[]}}-->

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Abdissa Aga (October 19)

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Reminder about edit warring

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It looks like you're in the midst of an edit war at Boorana and possibly other articles. Remember that WP:3RR is a bright-line rule that you can be blocked for violating, unless you meet a limited number of exceptions. —C.Fred (talk) 04:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231107043000","author":"C.Fred","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-C.Fred-20231107043000-Reminder_about_edit_warring","replies":["c-C.Fred-20231107043200-C.Fred-20231107043000"]}}-->

Also, regarding the image you've added to Boorana, could you provide some more information about when you took it and where (or who, generally) you were visiting on the trip when you took the pic? —C.Fred (talk) 04:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231107043200","author":"C.Fred","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-C.Fred-20231107043200-C.Fred-20231107043000","replies":[]}}-->
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November 2023

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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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November 2023

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Re: Yejju people

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Hi, I was asked to look into an edit conflict concerning this article. What is the major differences between the two versions of this article? I've looked at both versions, & beyond the fact one has 6 citations & the other 5, I don't see any differences. I find this dispute odd, but there have been more bitter fights over more trivial matters. -- llywrch (talk) 17:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231214171800","author":"Llywrch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Llywrch-20231214171800-Re:_Yejju_people","replies":["c-Abrasax123-20231214204500-Llywrch-20231214171800"]}}-->

There is no conflict; I was updating and correcting the article. The initial article had many grammar mistakes and bias, so what I did was I got information from the past history of the article and connected it with the article that I changed. Perhaps the person who is attempting to have conflict with me finds that what I corrected was biased? I am not sure. Abrasax123 (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231214204500","author":"Abrasax123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Abrasax123-20231214204500-Llywrch-20231214171800","replies":["c-Llywrch-20231218003000-Abrasax123-20231214204500","c-Llywrch-20231218181200-Abrasax123-20231214204500"]}}-->
Since the anon IPv6 editor continues to revert this article, I've asked for another admin to intervene. (I have no good way to inform the anon editor.) -- llywrch (talk) 00:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231218003000","author":"Llywrch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Llywrch-20231218003000-Abrasax123-20231214204500","replies":[]}}-->
FYI, my compromise version of that article was protected. If you have any suggestions to improve it -- & I know there are several -- feel free to post them on the talk page for the time being. -- llywrch (talk) 18:12, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231218181200","author":"Llywrch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Llywrch-20231218181200-Abrasax123-20231214204500","replies":[]}}-->
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February 2024

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March 2024

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I understand that Wikipedia aims to achieve correct information and prevent misinformation. The article of Balcha Safo had citations that did not say he was of Gurage descent. In fact, I have looked far and wide and haven't found one source of even claiming Balcha Safo of being Gurage. The only sources I found was his ethnicity being of Oromo descent. Abrasax123 (talk) 13:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240306130200","author":"Abrasax123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Abrasax123-20240306130200-Socialwave597-20240306022300","replies":[]}}-->
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Is there any reason why you keep reverting my edits without adequate reason? Your rationale appears lacking. There are numerous pages employing a similar format. Collages in articles save space and show lots of different things in a small area, making the reading experience better. Moreover, the earlier version of the page neglected to feature several crucial figures from this ethnic group, a mistake now remedied in the updated content. Furthermore, I've included additional images and made improvements to the page. Please refrain from reverting these changes. JUMPp1harm (talk) 00:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307003300","author":"JUMPp1harm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JUMPp1harm-20240307003300-Edits","replies":["c-Abrasax123-20240307004900-JUMPp1harm-20240307003300"]}}-->

I've already stated my reason. You should read my reasoning again. I will explain it to you here once again. Collages are not appropriate when the article is referring to an ethnicity. Show me an ethnic article that has a format like that. Abrasax123 (talk) 00:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307004900","author":"Abrasax123","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Abrasax123-20240307004900-JUMPp1harm-20240307003300","replies":["c-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800-Abrasax123-20240307004900"]}}-->
The Arabic version of the Oromo page follows this format. As I've mentioned before, your reasoning is insufficient. Do you see how sections like Music, Literature, and Food have collages of images representing their respective topics? Given this, why wouldn't it be appropriate to have a collage featuring more prominent individuals who go beyond their personal skills? Overall it fits the page more. So respectfully, stop revering my changes JUMPp1harm (talk) 00:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307005800","author":"JUMPp1harm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800-Abrasax123-20240307004900","replies":["c-Abrasax123-20240307010800-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800","c-JUMPp1harm-20240307012900-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800"]}}-->
Who is talking about Arabic? I am referring to the English locations of Wikipedia. Find me one article that is related to an ethnicity that has that format. Sections like Music, Literature, and food are ok with collages because they are not based around an ethnic group. Another line of reasoning is that the people shown in the collages are already mentioned in the article if you even checked. The Amhara article has already been through this some months ago and we reverted and it was justified, so if you want to start problems then that is fine with me. You are the one who will be getting the punishment, likely a ban from editing. Abrasax123 (talk) 01:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307010800","author":"Abrasax123","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Abrasax123-20240307010800-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800","replies":[]}}-->
Why does it matter what language it is in? The format is still used nonetheless. I decided to implement this format for the page after observing it on the Arabic Oromo page, and I'm certain that similar formats exist on other English pages as well. This format aligns better with the page because each section already features various images of people representing that particular aspect. It only seems logical to apply the same approach to the main image with prominent individuals especially for significant figures within the ethnic group, such as Haile Selassie, who previously wasn't even included on the page. Overall, this format enhances the page's coherence and relevance, prioritizing important individuals over random ones. If my efforts to improve the page result in a ban, then so be it. JUMPp1harm (talk) 01:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307012900","author":"JUMPp1harm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JUMPp1harm-20240307012900-JUMPp1harm-20240307005800","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Oromo people, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 20:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240803204500","author":"Kowal2701","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kowal2701-20240803204500-WikiProject","replies":[]}}-->

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