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The article suggests that the Jelling stones have not yet recieved their protective casing. I was recently in Jelling and saw the stones, which ARE, in fact, situated inside of large, permanent-looking casings. The article needs to be updated to reflect this change, although I don't think I'm qualified to do so.

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I have access to a copy of the Danmarks runeindskrifter atlas with close-up photos of this runestone and a transliteration (as well as the material under DR 42 in the Joint Nordic database for runic inscriptions).

Since this is a short (and historically important) inscription, it might be worthwhile to include the original runic text (in Unicode) and a properly-credited transcription and transliteration. Various transcriptions and translations of this text are also found at Jelling and Harald I of Denmark, all of which could be linked back to here. Emk 15:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-13T15:11:00.000Z","author":"Emk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Emk-2006-06-13T15:11:00.000Z-[Untitled]","replies":[]}}-->

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I've added transcriptions from Danmarks Runeindskrifter, and checked the runic forms against both DR's transcriptions and its photos (where legible). I've also added translations from Rundata's English database, so we have a cited source. These quotations are short (and the transcriptions are nearly identical in both sources), so they should fall under fair use.

All this should, in turn, allow the Harald Bluetooth and Jelling articles to source their quotes a bit more firmly.

I've also made two other changes, in a second edit:

The Imperial Household of Japan has ruled since 660 BC, which is definitely earlier than the Danish royal family, so I've narrowed the scope of the article's claims to Europe.
The inscriptions on Harald's runestone give a slightly misleading view of history, so I've added a note pointing to the Harald Bluetooth article, which has a more detailed history.

Feel free to revert these last two changes if they bother you; I'm just trying to improve things slightly. Emk 05:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-14T05:50:00.000Z","author":"Emk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Emk-2006-06-14T05:50:00.000Z-Added_runes,_transcriptions_(and_some_minor_fact-checking)","replies":[]}}-->

There is some very clear graphics on the danish version of this page. Should it go here too?Apupunchau 05:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-09T05:02:00.000Z","author":"Apupunchau","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apupunchau-2006-09-09T05:02:00.000Z-Added_runes,_transcriptions_(and_some_minor_fact-checking)","replies":["c-Emk-2006-09-10T00:29:00.000Z-Apupunchau-2006-09-09T05:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sure! It looks like we're using the same photos for the actual inscriptions, but they have some nice photos of the stones from a distance. Let's keep at least one photo with the mound in the background, though--it's a cool earthwork, and it adds some nice context. emk 00:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-10T00:29:00.000Z","author":"Emk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Emk-2006-09-10T00:29:00.000Z-Apupunchau-2006-09-09T05:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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The runes are unreadable using Firefox, or Internet Explorer. O0drogue0o 07:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-02T07:15:00.000Z","author":"O0drogue0o","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-O0drogue0o-2007-04-02T07:15:00.000Z-Runes","replies":["c-Emk-2007-05-28T14:11:00.000Z-O0drogue0o-2007-04-02T07:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sorry to hear that! I've checked the runes in several browsers on several platforms (MacOS X Safari, MacOS X Firefox, Linux Firefox), and in each case they show up correctly. Do you have a runic font installed on your system? You might have some luck with the instructions on the upper-right of Runic alphabet. If that doesn't work, you might have some luck with the pictures of the stones and the transcriptions. -emk (talk) 14:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-28T14:11:00.000Z","author":"Emk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Emk-2007-05-28T14:11:00.000Z-O0drogue0o-2007-04-02T07:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nortonius-2008-07-24T09:41:00.000Z-Emk-2007-05-28T14:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmm... I've just got a new iMac, and the runes aren't showing for me - this might seem like a 'browser-' or 'platform-based' issue, but for the fact that it's been a problem before! I think surely that it's not appropriate for an English language WP article to expect a reader to have the right font - disappointing though it may be that apparently the required font is not universal! On that basis, I would strongly recommend deleting the transcriptions from the article (painful, I know...) - or better still, create an image for each transcription, and include those instead. A compromise might be to add a ref, pointing the reader to the need to install a particular font - but, really that would be absurd, and I bet there's WP policy on this... Nortonius (talk) 09:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-24T09:41:00.000Z","author":"Nortonius","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nortonius-2008-07-24T09:41:00.000Z-Emk-2007-05-28T14:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-166.181.85.161-2022-05-07T06:06:00.000Z-Nortonius-2008-07-24T09:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

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