Hi there! You left a comment on my talk page about an edit I made to the page Hail to the Chimp. The change I made was adding Michael Salvatori as the composer for that video game. You mentioned that I didn't have a source and I wanted to follow up on that. I do have sources for this, but I'm not sure how to cite them. For one, the game's credits say that Michael Salvatori was the composer. I looked at your references for beginner's guide and couldn't immediately find a guideline for citing a piece of media's credits? In addition, Michael Salvatori also has this game listed on his website, but am I mistaken that using this as a source would be frowned upon because it's a primary source? Which of these should I use, and how should I do so? I understand the importance of providing sources and want to make sure I do it right. Thanks a ton.
-AtlyxMusic
@AtlyxMusic: - Template:Cite video game may be used to cite the credits of a game themselves - Youtube is a generally unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:VG/RS and WP:RSPYT however. Both the game and Michael Salvatori's website are primary sources - primary sources aren't entirely frowned upon, but it's bad when an article overly relies on them and sources too closely connected to the subject may not necessarily demonstrate that the info it's used to verify is notable enough to have on the article if secondary sources don't cover it. Citing the game's credits seems fine in this instance - I think the credits themselves would be better as citing the composer's website may appear as though it's promoting them. Waxworker (talk) 11:36, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of programs broadcast by Mega Channel
Hi. I just added some game shows and tv series that were played by Mega Channel.
And as a Greek person, I can assure you that all of them are real.
Thank you and have a nice day!
01:26, 23 March 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:85F:F826:BCE6:6173:9B14:F19C:E7F1 (talk)
There are no reliable sources for the other programs, so don't do anything more about Mega and ANT1, because you don't know anything, you are not even Greek to know them.
I just added some programs that were/are real. Accept them and everything ok.
Thank you!
01:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:85F:F826:BCE6:C1E5:47D6:4C04:EF1F (talk)
@2A02:85F:F826:BCE6:C1E5:47D6:4C04:EF1F: - Per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." If no reliable sources discuss the content added, it is WP:OR and shouldn't be added to the article. Waxworker (talk) 14:30, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Atomic Robo-Kid Special Shares Assets with Mutant Night
The sources are the games themselves. The article for Mutant Night already mentions that both games were developed by Tsutomu Fuzisawa. In the image shown here simply compare the vines, the tree, and other points of reference. It is the same pixel art, simply modified to accommodate different hardware.
Junge Level in Mutant Night & Atomic Robo-Kid Special (PCE) share assets.
@About Mutant Knight: - Reliable sources that discuss this need to be cited for verification and to show that this is notable - the image may be a helpful visual aid accompanying sourced prose, but is not in itself a source. The games themselves are not a suitable source as a source needs to directly make the comparison - making the comparison yourself is WP:OR, due to "analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not stated by the sources". WP:VG/RS has a helpful (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have been previously discussed by other editors. I've removed the content on the article discussing Atomic Robo-Kid as it's unsourced and doesn't appear notable. Waxworker (talk) 13:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully disagree with your verbiage and reasoning. One can literally see that the background pixel art (albeit with different colors) is the same and was created by the same developer. Yes, the game art is the source and its "author" was the developer. The developer has been dead since 1998 and is not going to provide a citation. About Mutant Knight (talk) 06:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@About Mutant Knight: - I do not think that this is a 'the sky is blue' matter. WP:PRIMARY states that "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation" and that "Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so". WP:VERIFYOR says that "Wikipedia's content is determined by previously published information rather than by the personal beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it". Reliable sources that discuss this need to be cited - citing the games themselves is WP:OR. Waxworker (talk) 12:29, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SingStar Dance — Downloadable Songs
Hi, Waxworker. I added the song “D.A.N.C.E.” by Justice to the list of songs for SingStar Dance that had a dance add-on that was downloadable because it was featured in a couple of promo trailers for the game that were released some months before the game’s release. I’m not sure why the source website cited for the other songs in the list didn’t include the song in any of said source’s entries. You can see the presence of the song as well as its actual in-game routine in the trailer below (fine print in the trailer even says the song is featured in the SingStore). I’m just not sure how to cite it, or even if it’s appropriate to, given that I could find no other proof of its existence.
@2600:8802:E07:1B00:41A9:983D:2483:B3D2: - Youtube is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPYT and WP:VG/RS unless the channel itself is reliable - 'Playfront' doesn't seem to be a suitable source to me. Assuming the trailer is official, the trailer as uploaded by the official Youtube channel of the publisher or developer (so Sony Computer Entertainment or London Studio) would be suitable, or a reliable gaming news source that uploads trailers for new games such as IGN, Gamespot, or Gametrailers. I do see that it says "Featured track available on Singstore" for the song, but things can appear in trailers that aren't in the final game, so while a trailer uploaded by a reliable source would be fine, a source confirming that it is indeed available in the final game would be better. Also see Help:Referencing for beginners for help citing sources. Waxworker (talk) 15:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
February 2025
Hello, please this is your final revert the edit of IP the 2023 in Philippine television, 2024 in Philippine television and Sing Galing (was ended on December 22, 2022) and the article moved from Draft:Appendix:Two-letter combinations and Draft talk:Appendix:Two-letter combinations to Appendix:Two-letter combinations and Talk:Appendix:Two-letter combinations 49.144.35.154 (talk) 22:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Veronica Taylor, Patlabor: The Television Series
If you watch the episode it's clearly Veronica Taylor voicing the Prince in the episode. Even though I sourced a fan wiki it doesn't make it less of a fact. Listen to it yourself if you have the knowledge. The episode is "Gently, Your Highness
Patlabor: The TV Series: Episode 13"
@129.9.75.233: - I was unable to readily find a copy of the episode to check the credits - per "Listen to it yourself if you have the knowledge", is this because she is uncredited in the episode and you're attributing the role based on the character's voice? If so, that seems like WP:OR. If she is in the credits, Template:Cite episode can be used, but a primary source isn't great and doesn't show that the role is necessarily notable. On BTVA (reliable per WP:RSPBTVA) she has a verified credit (as marked by a green checkmark) for Patlabor: The New Files, one verified credit and 3 unverified roles for Patlabor: The Mobile Police, and none for the 1989 Patlabor: The TV Series. Waxworker (talk) 13:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you made a mistake. Do you realize that the article on the former (the game) already referenced the former's info on MobyGames before and after my edits, while the latter (the publisher) cross-references the former which references the aforementioned MobyGames? DimaLeon2000TALKCONTRIB18:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Robocar Poli stopped aired when the original channel number 611 converted to HD, this was reaired back on 2023 when the channel rebranded (not from November 20, 2024).
Hey man, I understand that certain sites are not reliable or verifiable, but given that the game in question is not only extremely niche but also quite unknown to most gamers, it doesnt make sense to not cite sites with info regarding the game. Given that reviews on the game are only present on a handful of popular sites, it makes sense to link them all. Gamefaqs may not be considered ‘reliable’ for scientific articles, but it definitely can be included on Wikipedia which is crowdsourced. the gamefaqs link i added contained multiple reviews from real players, so are we supposed to look over the views of genuine players just because the site is the wikipedia equivalent for gaming? Since the original page was quite lacking in terms of info and quality, the edits were frankly very necessary. Please look into the pages for games like GTA/zelda/etc. which literally spell out the entire game, my edit simply glossed over the plot without giving most of the screenPlay. Don’t you think its necessary to include the entire list of characters and playable entities in the game? I mean if you want to simplify everything then don’t work on wikipedia. If people can’t include things such as plot, characters, controls, reviews and mechanics in the game’s wikipedia; then this site is absolutely worthless. Thanks for wasting my time as an editor, your time as a freeloader and future readers who would be extremely curious about the game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BowlChevyk517 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of Fictional Worms - Blood on the Clocktower
Hi Waxworker! I saw you reverted my contributions of Blood on the Clocktower characters on the List of fictional worms page. My source for considering the characters as worm-or-wyrm-like is their token art in combination with the name of the character. However, the only place I can find the token art online would either be on the BotC wiki, or in TPI's Twitch streams where they talk about new characters. Which of these would you consider as a better source for this topic? Cryptikk (talk) 20:02, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cryptikk: - Wikis are an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source, and art from the game/Twitch streams from the creators of the game are primary sources that don't necessarily show that this is notable. I recommend looking over MOS:MISCELLANY, which states "Avoid collections of miscellaneous facts or examples, since Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" - not every fictional worm should be listed if reliable secondary sources don't discuss them. The target article of Blood on the Clocktower also doesn't mention the listed examples. Waxworker (talk) 11:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found a source
I finally found a source about Pete Browngadt's influences. He cited Gary Larson, Don Martin, Harvey Kurtzman, Robert Crumb and Tex Avery.
Can I use Lambiek as a source since Stephen Hillenburg and Joe Murray used it?
Matt Groening have cited cartoonists Robert Crumb, Kim Deitch, Dr. Seuss, Charles M. Schulz, Walt Kelly, George Herriman and Lynda Barry as well as Golden Age animators such as Walt Disney, Max Fleischer, Tex Avery, Chuck Jones, Jay Ward.
I have a humble edit request for John Kricfalusi. On the influences side, some are not even graphic or animation influences, so there have to changes it.
@50.91.26.176: - Edit requests should be made on the talk page for the article, and I don't think I've edited that article and I'm not particularly interested in its subject. I recommend you take this to Talk:John Kricfalusi, where a response would also probably be prompter. Waxworker (talk) 12:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I re-edit it this time I made it say "As with many of the World War II–themed cartoons put out by the major studios, Herr Meets Hare was withdrawn from broadcast or video distribution by Warner Bros. and other rights-holders (including Turner Broadcasting and AOL Time Warner)...AOL Time Warner refused to allow the broadcast of Herr Meets Hare because it has dealt with the Nazis in a joking manner (mostly by today's standards)" because I feel like offensive is not a suitable for this, if it had ethnic stereotyping (not counting as Anti-German) then yes it would be suitable. 50.91.26.176 (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@50.91.26.176: - This may be fine for a sentence regarding it being "unofficially banned from broadcasting and video distribution", but doesn't verify the content of the rest of the removed paragraph, e.g. no source for a rationale for Warner not broadcasting the short or that "many of the World War II–themed cartoons put out by the major studios" are withdrawn. Waxworker (talk) 13:02, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can I put it as "This short is unofficially banned from broadcasting and video distribution, it is mostly due to it dealt with Nazis in a joking matter"
@50.91.26.176: - The ref doesn't specify a rationale - there is still no source saying that it not being broadcast "is mostly due to it dealt with Nazis in a joking matter". Waxworker (talk) 12:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Useful or just over-cautious?
Hi. Just curious: what's the use of adding archive URL and archive date for piles of websites which are still live and working, so just fine, thank you very much? Isn't it just clogging the pages? Why not just concentrate on those marked as dead links and only intervene when they are marked? Or write a code which discovers by itself which ones are dead before an editor stumbles over them? Do you wish to profilactically make rot-safe EVERY web address on Wiki? I guess there must be a reason for it. Thank you. Arminden (talk) 02:14, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Arminden: - I think that archive links are important futureproofing - web pages are rather ephemeral and websites may shut down or the content of a page may be changed at any time. Archive links are also helpful for source accessibility for individuals living in regions blocked by the website - a decent chunk of American websites block European IPs from viewing the site rather than deal with GDPR regulations. Waxworker (talk) 12:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thank you. Definitely a good cause in this case.
Any chance it could be done in a way that doesn't clog the page? I mean some automatism, smart coding, maybe IA, because now it makes editing much more difficult. On the phone you can't follow the text, it's buried under tonnes of technical info. I don't know anything about actual coding, I've learned about logical schemata and stopped there, but to me this looks like THE typical problem for a bot to solve.
@Arminden: - I don't edit Wikipedia on mobile so I'm unsure what the issue you're describing is - do you mean that the citations take up too much text due to the added archive info so it's hard to see the actual prose of the article? Waxworker (talk) 13:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Arminden: - I'm not sure that there is a way to add archive links without this issue - list-defined references (WP:LDR) and having all the actual ref info at the bottom of the article would help, but per WP:CITEVAR citation styles shouldn't be broadly changed by something like IAbot and would need to be discussed on a per-case basis. Editing using the Wikipedia:VisualEditor would also mitigate this issue, but I personally find the visual editor limited and unintuitive. Waxworker (talk) 14:01, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaneapickle: - Reliable sources need to be cited per WP:BURDEN for verification and to show that this is notable. Youtube is a generally unreliable source per WP:RSPYT and WP:VG/RS unless the channel itself is reliable, e.g. something like the official channels of IGN or Gamespot. Waxworker (talk) 14:07, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
GMTV programmes list deleted.
@Waxworker, because of your own logic, since NONE of the other GMTV kids programmes had citations, the entire section has been removed from the page.
@2.96.149.161: - Reliable sources are necessary for verification per WP:BURDEN, and unsourced content can be challenged and removed - the removal of the section seems apt, particularly as lists of aired shows shouldn't be exhaustive and should only list "major events, promotions or historically significant program lists and schedules" per WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Waxworker (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@2001:EE0:4F84:EEA0:C1FA:594:A33:629D: - Instagram isn't a great source - see WP:RSPINSTAGRAM, but an official announcement saying the the channel is shut down would be fine per WP:ABOUTSELF. The linked Instagram posts don't seem to explicitly say that the channels are defunct - omitting mention of them isn't the same as explicitly saying they're shut down, and seems like WP:OR. 'Kingofsat' doesn't appear to be a reliable source to me and it hasn't previously been discussed at WP:RSN. Waxworker (talk) 13:42, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course they doesn't say that the channels are defunct,they want suddenly went off air without noticing,they just make an promos silently without telling something like other channel Nickelodeon (Pakistani TV channel) and this is not first time before,they did shut down other without noticing long ago like FX,Fox Crime and Fox Family movies,it's so sad nobody know that shutdown is real unless some proof like video.This make an harder to reliable or trust them.Also i watched these channels in my eye now,until these channels shut down but i don't know how to tell you trust this or not because this is wikipedia.What a waste time. 2001:EE0:4F84:EEA0:BC3E:4624:6E63:392D (talk) 20:46, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Waxworker, I think you've made a mistake. Susanne Blakeslee is the current voice of Maleficent in any Disney product she is in these days, and that includes Dreamlight Valley. Multiple sources like IMDb list this as true. https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0086840/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl11 The Dreamlight Valley BTVA page just hasn't been updated for a long time. Trust me, I made an accurate edit to her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JL303 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In terms of sources for Jane Horrocks being in Crackers in Space, the audiobook credits her at the very end for playing Wendolene, unless it is a different actor of the same name? Not sure what else a source for this would be.TommyJayey (talk) 04:06, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TommyJayey: - A secondary source would be better (such as a review of the audiobook in a reliable source discussing her role), but citing the credits of the audiobook itself with Template:Cite book would be fine. Linking the Youtube video would be inappropriate as it appears to be a copyright violation - see WP:COPYLINK and WP:RSPYT. Waxworker (talk) 14:04, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@IvanRamos2024: - Music genres should be sourced and discussed in the body of the article. I recommend looking over Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance regarding citing sources - the onus is on the editor adding content to source it per WP:BURDEN. WP:RSP has a helpful list of reliable/unreliable sources that have previously been discussed by other editors, and the search bar near the top may be used to search the WP:RSN archives to see if a particular source has been discussed. The WP:TEAHOUSE is also a good place to ask questions about editing. Waxworker (talk) 15:19, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
if you clearly look at IMDb, Dubbing Wikia or even Behind The Voice Actors, they clearly state Christopher Sabbat being the English voice actor for Eibon in Soul Eater. I believe if you looked through the actors on the show itself as well, it would show his name but don't hold me to that one because i'm not exactly sure for that one. i would appreciate if it my edit gets put back up. thank you. 108.224.81.127 (talk) 04:02, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have nominated Transformers (film) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farmtalk01:52, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removal of my work for Choro Q Wonderful!
Hey so I get a message that you remove all of my work on the Choro Q Wonderful! page because of the sources I used. To be fair the sources aren't super reliable with them being fandom based, but the game is a pretty niche Japanese exclusive 1999 Playstation 1 game and there is very little English content to work with. I'm editing for a class and I did put in a decent amount of effort to get the information as right as I could. I think its fine that you want Wikipedia to be more reliable but completely removing someone efforts completely is extremely rude and upsetting. I'm not trying to lie with what I added, I simply put what I could physical get through English sources. Maybe instead of outright removing peoples work you just flag for a source check or even give the person some better source. I only chose to work on this article because it looked fun to work on but because of your removal of my efforts I'm most likely going to have to find something else to work on. I'm just really flustered right now and just felt like this was a very rude way to be woken up. Jackson Hirshberg (talk) 15:27, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jackson Hirshberg: - The 'locations' section reads as a WP:GAMEGUIDE to me, and lists of gameplay info like that are discouraged per WP:VGSCOPE. I recommend looking over WP:VG/RS, a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously been discussed by other editors. Reliable sources also don't need to be in English to be viable - see WP:NONENG. Archive.org may have more Japanese coverage. Linking directly to the fan translation on Romhacking.net is also a copyright concern per WP:COPYLINK. Waxworker (talk) 17:40, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, whatever I was just doing this for a class and because I thought it would be fun to work on. Genuinely though, I still think its rude to just go around deleting peoples contributions, especially in this case where the original article barely had any information. If you genuinely care so much about this topic maybe you should research it and add information. Jackson Hirshberg (talk) 22:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The fact you brazenly accsued me and my good friend 173.242.104.90 of being sockpuppet account for "LooneyTunesMan" sinply for a few surface level similarities as addressing people as "Mr." or "Ms." (which is just there to be polite), edit similar pages, and the fact I use well-known George W. Bush quote "Now watch this drive" on my page is frankly absurd.
173.242.104.90, as I just said, is a good friend of mine and his most recent editing on the 2nd, I was visiting him and consulted him on a few of his edits. I even edited a few of his mistakes on my own account. Also, the fact you remove a piece of information found on the very trustworthy source Behind the Voice Actors sinply because it doesn't have a green checkmark to verify it is one of the lamest things I ever heard. As far as I know, there is no rules on this site that says there must be a green check mark on BTVA to approve it. If that is the case, nothing would get done.
I'm usually quite laid-back and chill, but there comes a time where it will not work and obe must become straightforward. This is, quite frankly, heavyhanded authoritianism that prevents people from joining Wikipedia in the first place. Johnny Benjamin Goode (talk) 19:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think QuirkyQuokka may need their talk page access revoked. It seems to me like they're making an insincere apology in an attempt to get unblocked, claiming that some of their edits were accidental when that does not appear to be the case to me. TheGrandDelusion(Send a message)21:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Grand Delusion: - I am not an admin - messaging the blocking admin or one of the admins who declined unblock requests instead would be apt. I personally don't think TPA needs to be revoked as with the goodbye message they've posted to their talk page, they appear to have stopped. Waxworker (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Rule of Rules 1.8: - The edit says that Overdrive was inspired by Pole Position "particularly as it was controlled by a steering wheel", and that Pole Position was considered more "lifelike" as a result, neither of these claims are sourced. I've removed the unsourced claims of influence in general from the gameplay section as well as some unsourced content from the reception section, as it seems like WP:OR. Waxworker (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TjazForint: - The content added was unsourced and is excessive detail for version history/gameplay - per WP:VGSCOPE, #7 "Lists of gameplay items, weapons, or concepts" and #10 "Exhaustive version histories" are discouraged. Please see WP:BURDEN - reliable sources are necessary for verification when adding content to articles. Primary sources (such as the official website and the game itself) shouldn't be heavily relied upon - secondary sources such as gaming news coverage are more suitable, see WP:VG/RS for a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games. Waxworker (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, let's just strike a deal. If I were to do this again, I would only do the new update that's in beta, alright? This seem ok to you? TjazForint (talk) 07:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A talk page which only includes that Wikiproject banner is unnecessary, as the Wikiproject knows about the page from its categorisation. It is positively unhelpful, in that a conscientious editor going to edit the page, who sees that there is a talk page, will waste time by going to the talk page to check whether there is any relevant discussion (eg the item they were planning to add had been discussed and rejected previously).
And please nominate them all for speedy deletion, G7, "creator requests deletion". I tried G6 "created in error" but the admin who responded suggested that as a better route. Leaving them in existence sets a bad precedent and suggests to other editors that such pages should be created. Thanks. PamD06:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PamD: - Thank you for bringing this to my attention - I was unaware that the template for WikiProject Disambiguation discouraged this and that there was consensus against making talk pages in this manner. Looking at the responding admin's reply I somewhat agree with Pppery's assessment that they "weren't worth creating but also aren't worth deleting", as I am concerned with flooding Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and whether the admins patrolling it concur that they needn't be deleted. I've tagged a good chunk of the relevant talk pages I created with G7. Waxworker (talk) 13:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting rid of them. There's always something new to learn about editing Wikipedia (like the fact that these pages shouldn't be created). Happy Editing! PamD09:00, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Articles Need Expanding
I was expanding articles by making filmographies, but two of them happened to be reverted for unknown reasons. So if you could just please make them back to the way it was before the revertion?
Ok, why do you keep removing Cool World off of the Background section of Paramount Animation? You do realize that it was one of the other films, as quoted, "Paramount distributed a few animated films from 1973 to 1992 that were produced by outside studios," AND also one of the former animators from the classic studio, Ralph Bakshi, directed the film Cool World. How is this not even a fact?! Please stop removing it and please stop reverting the article. 2600:8801:8E:9900:753F:555B:1DB7:DE3C (talk) 13:24, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@2600:8801:8E:9900:753F:555B:1DB7:DE3C: - The content added is unsourced - the onus is on the editor adding content per WP:BURDEN, which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful. Waxworker (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you removing true facts for no reason dude? Pillow pets ads came out in 2009! One year before I was born! Then, Mr Messy sounded like Diesel 10. Please watch the American dub of "Mr Fussy takes a Well-Earned break" to find out. Also, I need help providing sources for each fact I discover? The creators of each franchise confirmed these things! 206.85.121.88 (talk) 16:00, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@206.85.121.88: - Please see WP:BURDEN, which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful, and WP:RSP has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources that have previously been discussed by other editors. Waxworker (talk) 22:42, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I just added korean drama & filipino drama that were played by TV2. I can assure you that all of them are real. Thank you and have a nice day! 58.26.103.78 (talk) 15:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Waxworker, Thank you for informing me. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm not very familiar with the rules here. I apologize for that, and I will add sources to the article.
However, I have a question: Can I add sources that are not in English?
Thank you! MmToorani (talk) 21:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MmToorani: - Sources not in english are fine per WP:NONENG. Before citing something, I recommend searching the name of the website/source at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard archives to see if other editors have previously discussed its reliability - WP:RSP has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources that have been repeatedly discussed, and WP:RSPMISSING has the searchbox for searching the RSN archives. A source not being listed in the archives or at RSP doesn't necessarily mean it is unreliable, but it would be prudent to evaluate it more carefully. Waxworker (talk) 11:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I made a mistake
I have made a mistake. I think did not think I was violating Wikipedia's rules about cherry-picking famous people over another. You can check my edits. User contributions for 50.91.26.176 - Wikipedia Click on the date to see. I promise I was using Lambiek. Do I have to pick everybody that is included as influences? I just want my edits back, but it because of how other pages listed them. Like in Stephen Hillenburg list went from comic book artists to animators including one animation educator. Joe Murray went from 2 painters to 2 cartoonists to 5 Golden Age-era animators. I was mostly picking the credible peoples, that's why. But then I got scolded. 50.91.26.176 (talk) 22:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheWabbit1995: - Reliable sources are necessary for verification - see WP:BURDEN, which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Waxworker (talk) 12:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Waxworker, I am having trouble convincing to @Fram about his revert of my edits. I was trying to proof about the other pages about cherrypicking when I didn't mean to.
@50.91.26.176: - I don't have an opinion on this content dispute and I'm unsure why you're raising it on my talk page - I am not going to "help with convincing" Fram. The talk page of the article would be the venue to discuss this. Waxworker (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tarzan Yell: 1970's filmation animated series "Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle"...was performed by Edgar Rice Burroughs grandson Danton Burroughs
Yes, Waxworker:
You made a mistake;
The verifying citation is included the Wikipedia article for "Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle/Character/main characters/Tarzan"...which Article, I Hyperlinked to. (quote: "Tarzan (voiced by Robert Ridgely when speaking, Danton Burroughs for Tarzan yell[4])") ...or just Google the same "Danton Burroughs Tarzan Yell"- you'll find loads of evidence. Edgar Rice Burroughs grandson, Danton Burroughs, was well know for his Tarzan yell...everyone has new things to learn...even self described "Experts"...be a bit more curious about "incredulous hyperbole", when you come across it, and you may actually learn something new and truly amazing...("incredulous hyperbole" is how you referred to my very factual post, that you reverted) 2600:6C67:7400:292:C40D:E5CA:FC5:77DA (talk) 16:09, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
JFK film edits
Hey Waxworker, the name's Joseph, but you can call me JDawg. I'm a new user here. Today, I'm confused.
So, yesterday, I edited the page for Oliver Stone's JFK film from 1991, namely to fix the Academy Awards nominations it got (after the last guy who edited it said it was nominated for Best Actor for Kevin Costner when it was actually nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Tommy Lee Jones) and to rework the home media release of the film's Director's Cut to make it flow better.
This morning, I check in and see my edits had been reverted. I checked the page's history and saw you reverted it on the grounds on "reverting sockpuppet edits".
Who is the sockpuppet you're referring to, cause it's certainly not me. Was it the guy that edited the page before me, and if so, who is the guy controlling the sockpuppet? JDawgLegoEnjoyerMan (talk) 12:17, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@103.240.228.211: - Cracked is an unreliable source per WP:CRACKED, and a wikilink is not a source in of itself per WP:USERGENERATED. The reliability of the 'fm-7' database ref used is unclear to me - this page appears to indicate that the site is primarily written by a single individual alongside user-generated submissions. Waxworker (talk) 12:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree.
I've heard about this sockpuppet guy named "Looney Tunes Man". To me, he's probably just a kid who doesn't know any better.
However, for a lot of his edits, Wax here reverts the whole thing, claiming "reverted addition of unsourced content" or some other shit like that. When he uses Behind the Voice Actors, he removes it because it doesn't have a green checkmark to "verify" it.
I looked at those edits and most of it is sourced. It's only a couple bits of it that are unsourced.
Why not does remove the unsourced parts and specify what was not kosher plus what it was. He doesn't have to revert the whole edit, especially after people have edited the page after the edit was made. Reverting the whole thing is like throwing out a whole batch of fruit because a couple pieces have mold on them.
I suspect that you're the "Looney Tunes Man" that you're talking about, specifically because you're moaning about your edits being reverted in whole and not in part ("Why not does remove the unsourced parts and specify what was not kosher plus what it was. He doesn't have to revert the whole edit, especially after people have edited the page after the edit was made. Reverting the whole thing is like throwing out a whole batch of fruit because a couple pieces have mold on them."):
I personally agree with you. I would greatly appreciate if this user verified which edits are accurate and which edits aren't instead of completely removing them for being "unsourced" despite they may contain accurate information. It genuinely damages Wikipedia's credibility and reputation as a whole. 95.103.119.152 (talk) 09:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree, I've had a gameplay section of an old 1980s game removed for not having a source just because it was done from personal experience of playing it and I don't want to have to create a website and put it there just to proxy it into wikipedia. 82.46.103.206 (talk) 14:13, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@82.46.103.206: - Personal experience with the game is WP:OR and not a reliable source - a WP:SELFPUBLISHED website mirroring the info added would be similarly unreliable. WP:MOSVG's guidance regarding gameplay sections notes that "As with most Wikipedia content, gameplay details must be appropriately verifiable to reliable sources". WP:VG/RS has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously been discussed by other editors that may be helpful. Waxworker (talk) 14:21, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Film Credits for Kathy Zielinski
Hello. I saw your message that you removed my updated listing of film credits for Kathy Zielinski because each of her movie roles didn't have a citation. I went back and added the citation to each of the credits that I added to her exisitng list of credits, but the updated list was removed again. Did I re-add it wrong? I added all her credits from IMDb.
Thank you. Supermanfan1979 (talk) 19:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw that on the list. It says, "The use of IMDb as an external link is generally considered appropriate." Since the information I imported over was just her film credits, and not any information from her bio or other information that could be subjective, it would be alright. None of her other filmography on her Wiki page has sources either. IMDb is cited on her page as a source 7 other times already. Should I just change my source and reuse one of the ones already listed? Supermanfan1979 (talk) 17:14, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Supermanfan1979: - An IMDB external link at the bottom of the page is fine, using it as a source is not. IMDB being cited on the article is an issue and adding more content sourced to IMDB would only exacerbate this - reliable sources are necessary for verification. Waxworker (talk) 11:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is what I am saying. IMDb is used as a source 7 times in the article, not just as an external link at the bottom. There are 3 separate IMDb sources that are used a total of 7 times. It is citing awards, her projects, and even her birthday. I'm not trying to change anything in the body of the article, which is information that could be subjective. I am just adding to her list of film credits. Will I have to find articles online that reference each of her film projects? Supermanfan1979 (talk) 15:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Supermanfan1979: - IMDB is similarly an unreliable source for film credits - as I said before, content already being sourced to IMDB on the article is an issue, and a bad example to follow. Reliable sources discussing her involvement in projects would be more appropriate. Waxworker (talk) 11:40, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@20peace freedom25: - The edit was unsourced - per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". The iPlayer page would be fine as a source - see Help:Referencing for beginners for guidance regarding citing sources. Waxworker (talk) 10:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anime which was forgotten and left unrecorded in Wiki
The edit on Naoki Bando, isn't really just for fun, but it is meant to use as notice, for those who haven't heard nor seen it.
To let you know, the anime was never shared worldwide before, it was only viewed by Japanese only. You won't be able to find more information, if you didn't Google search the title in kanji, but you will find prepared info written in Lost Media Wiki, so you can copy and paste kanji on search. Everyone needs to know why this anime was never recognized in any anime database community.
@Info94567: - A reliable source should be cited when adding content to articles - wikis are an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source. Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful, and I recommend looking over Wikiproject Anime & Manga's (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources (WP:A&M/RS) that have previously been discussed by other editors. Waxworker (talk) 12:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what you mean by "unsourced." The names came from the in-game credits and other sources like Mobygames. What other evidence do you need? Krisfrosz133 (talk) 15:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
According to your revert of the Twisted Pictures edit, you claim that the upcoming film, Trust, is not sourced. If you actually read that article, they are in fact involved with the movie. Please do not revert the article because they are involved in the movie as they are in an upcoming release date. Thank you 2600:8801:8E:9900:59C7:CD75:9F2F:E4EB (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@165.214.68.102: - Other Wikipedia articles are an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:CIRCULAR. If she is in the credits, Template:Cite video game may be used to cite them - a reliable secondary source discussing her involvement would be a better source though. WP:VG/RS has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously discussed by other editors that may be helpful. Waxworker (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not what I meant. I'm not trying to cite another Wikipedia article as a source. I'm trying to ask why she doesn't need a source in Hokus Pokus Pink and why she does in Passport to Peril. Sounds like a double-standard to me. But I will use that template you provided. For that, I thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.236.20.218 (talk) 02:57, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@FilmandTVFan28: - The /64 should probably be reported to ANI - the vast majority of its contribs have been reverted and appears to be the same individual (all edits to articles related to cartoons) for a while. The range has also been blocked 3 times previously. Waxworker (talk) 12:57, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@162.236.20.218: - Other articles having unsourced content is an issue and not something that should be emulated - per WP:BURDEN, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". The Pink Panther: Passport to Peril is on my Watchlist, so I am alerted to edits on that article. Plot sections do not need to be sourced (MOS:VGPLOT), but gameplay sections do per MOS:VGGAMEPLAY. GameFAQs is an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source per WP:VG/RS and should not be used as a reference. While Mobygames itself is unreliable, its list of reviews may include links to helpful reliable sources. Waxworker (talk) 12:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rachael MacFarlane
Your June 7 revert was completely unnecessary. For one, The Orville is NOT animation according to her filmography, and the article needed update. Also, her Twitter was deactivated. You could've removed some stuff, but not ALL the edits I've contributed. Please do not do that again 2600:8801:8E:9900:9054:878:520E:BDA7 (talk) 13:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have taken it upon yourself to eliminate useful information on the basis that it is not sourced to your satisfaction. I have found a published book to source the character in The Carabineers and have thus reverted your pointless reversion, with the reference you so desire, but I do not have the time and energy to do the same for all the others, so the Gruault article will remain incomplete. (I might also note that vanishingly few character lists for movies have references; why don't you delete them all?) I see from the above entries on your talk page that you spend a lot of your time removing information and making Wikipedia a less useful place; I trust that makes you happy. This is the kind of thing that makes me less and less eager to try to improve the site. Languagehat (talk) 19:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Languagehat: - Cast lists for films are generally not exhaustive, and in particular uncredited roles must be sourced per MOS:FILMCAST, which states that "For uncredited roles, a citation should be provided in accordance with Wikipedia's verifiability policy". The onus is on the editor adding content to demonstrate verifiability per WP:BURDEN. Waxworker (talk) 11:57, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey!
Why did you revert the Casper edit here? You realized that I did, in fact, provide sources on, one, that cancelled CG reboot, and two, the announced live-action show for Peacock. Please re-think before you revert, and never do that ever again, because what did here was an act of stubbornness. Thank you 2600:8801:8E:9900:44C0:536B:E3AC:5A26 (talk) 19:20, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@2600:8801:8E:9900:44C0:536B:E3AC:5A26: - The claims added regarding John Altschuler and Dave Krinsky's involvement and the project being unrealized "likely due to the financial failure of Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014)" is unsourced - adding unsourced content with a citation needed tag is not a substitute for citing a source when adding content. Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Resources has a list of reliable/unreliable sources related to film. Waxworker (talk) 11:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When you reverted one of my edits-specifically on Duck Soup To Nuts-I added a source to neocitites, but you said it didn't appear reliable. What makes you say that? DudeJay17 (talk) 12:17, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DudeJay17: - The page is WP:SELFPUBLISHED with no indication of who wrote it (other than the legal disclaimer at the bottom just saying that "I am just a fan with a bit of HTML knowledge") or what their sources are. Anyone can make a Neocities page - a self-published source such as this may be fine "when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications", but that doesn't appear to be the case in this instance. Waxworker (talk) 12:24, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"If an article on Wikipedia is bad, the solution is to improve, not delete."
@217.155.227.216: - The onus is on the editor adding content to source it per WP:BURDEN - my opinion of "If an article on Wikipedia is bad, the solution is to improve, not delete" is referring to articles themselves, not content within them. For example, if an article for a subject is a one sentence stub but sources are found demonstrating notability (even if info within them hasn't been used to flesh out the article), keeping the stub is better, because for many making a whole new article is daunting and a brief article is better than none in that regard if the subject is notable. Waxworker (talk) 16:08, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Help
I warned IP editor User:50.104.26.15 to stop vandalizing various Wikipedia articles. After 3 times without change, and since you also warned this editor, I believe a longer block is appropriate in this case. CANthony0125 (talk) 14:07, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@CANthony0125: - I would not describe their edits as vandalism, but they are disruptive. The IP was previously blocked on the 12th for block evasion, but I don't know what blocked IP/account the block is referring to - the edits pre and post block appear to still be the same individual so they may still be evading an active block. An ANI report or messaging the blocking admin may be apt. Waxworker (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
About my changes for outright games
I thought people would do research about my changes before they say I'm wrong. If you go to https://outrightgames.com/games/ under Announcements you’ll see the releases they are doing, and they also commercialed the paw patrol game.Ok I guess I’ll stop editing pages so I don't get into trouble anymore DarkSpyro (talk) 11:58, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkSpyro: - The onus is on the editor adding content to demonstrate verifiability per WP:BURDEN - announcements from the publisher would be a fine source, though a non-primary source would be better. Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful, and WP:VG/RS has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games. Waxworker (talk) 12:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You 're saying I can change it back with that website as a reliable resource? Or I need some other source because they are the ones that make the games. DarkSpyro (talk) 12:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkSpyro: - The website would be fine, but the individual announcements should be cited for each game rather than the general 'games' page, which is prone to change. Waxworker (talk) 12:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkSpyro: - A primary source is better than no source, but articles shouldn't overly rely on primary sources - adding sources to the unsourced entries would be apt. However, links to sources in an edit summary is not the same as actually citing them - see Help:Referencing for beginners. Waxworker (talk) 13:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Inconsistent Request for Citation
The filmography section of the page for actress Artemis Pebdani is mostly not cited - just curious why the very small edit I made was removed while out of the nearly forty television entries, only three have external citations. I’ll add a citation to a Collider article to* “prove” the addition I made, but this is incredibly easy information to verify without a citation, as are most of her other credits. I guess you have the power over my edits though, so an explanation might be helpful for future reference. -S Shamirum (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Shamirum: - The onus is on the editor adding content to source it per WP:BURDEN, which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". The Collider ref is good. Other content on the article being unsourced is an issue, and adding more unsourced content exacerbates this. Waxworker (talk) 11:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
About the edit I made on the 28 Days Later Soundtrack page
I understand why the edit I made was deleted. I’m not sure about a source, but if you watched a later season of BGT (I’d say from 2017 onwards), you’d hear “In the House - In A Heartbeat” during moments of tension. That’s how I first heard it. You didn’t make a mistake - your reasoning is correct - but I’m confident that this is the case. I just don’t know how to place this as a source.
@82.7.111.191: - Reliable sources (other than the media it appeared in) need to discuss the appearance of the song - see WP:SONGTRIVIA, which states that "songs are widely adopted in popular culture but not every instance is noteworthy. The use of a song is only worthy of noting in its respective article" if reliable sources discuss it. WP:RSP has a (non-exhausive) list of reliable/unreliable sources that may be helpful. The rest of the section also doesn't appear notable and is largely unsourced - I've removed the section due to these concerns. Waxworker (talk) 13:16, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restoring various Wikipedia articles by readding "important" material back into the said Wikipedia articles
Hi. Please stop blocking me, my friend. And stop removing "unsourced or poorly sourced material" from various Wikipedia articles on me. There is a reason why this important material is there to stay on Wikipedia in the various articles, such as Lynn Redgrave, Jodi Benson, MC Skat Kat, The Enchanted World, and others. You see, I'm trying to readd different editions of all of the works Binette Schroeder did, including the original German editions, as published in Germany, as well as all of the illustrators that did The Cow Book, and not just Binette Schroeder. If you look closely at the endpaper illustrations of the The Cow Book within the photos of the said book on Ebay when you type down "The Cow Book Marc Gallant" in the search box within the said website, and then hit search, you can see that Marc Gallant, who wrote the said book, also provided the endpaper illustrations of the "Ice Cream Cone Patterns" at both the beginning and the end of the book. As for Iring Fetscher and the other articles about various German authors, I'm trying to readd all of the German authors that worked on the Update on Rumpelstiltskin and other Fairy Tales by 43 Authors, which is compiled by Hans-Joachim Gelberg, illustrated by Willi Glasauer, and published by Beltz & Gelberg. And another thing. I'm trying to readd the name of the butterfly character within the MC Skat Kat article, namely Tibi the Take it Back Butterfly, as well as relink the name of the yak character voiced by Dr. John, Yakety Yak. And that goes for other links to other articles that are yet to be created, including Scout LaRue Willis, David Kasday, Max Bolliger, Mark Hess, Robert G. Giusti and/or Robert Giusti, Michael Patterson, Why Christmas Trees Aren't Perfect, Meet Your Animal Friends, Once Upon a Dinosaur, Dragons of Darkness, and lots of others. I'm even trying to restore information about Cameron Diaz's death in 2015 back into the Cameron Diaz article, and readd George Clooney and Katy Perry back into the Annie article, since Clooney and Perry made cameo appearances in that film. And on top of everything else, I'm trying to readd some films some celebrities appeared in into their articles, such as Lynn Redgrave providing narration in the 1983 film Meet Your Animal Friends, and Jodi Benson provided the voice of the princess character in Why Christmas Trees Aren't Perfect, Princess Arabella. I am also trying to restore the List of Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger characters article just by readding the Zyu2 Monsters, a group of animal-themed and plant-themed villains/monsters being a group of special Dora Monsters that appeared in Zyu2, among all of the other list of characters articles. And not to mention readding Catherine O'Hara and William Hickey back into the Robots article, and the characters they voiced, notably the Sally voice box and the Dr. Finkelstein voice box within Jack Hammer's Hardware Store, and not just James Earl Jones's Mufasa voice box character, as well as putting a few changes to the Looney Tunes: Back in Action article just by replacing three male actors, two of which voiced two popular cartoon characters, with Paula Abdul and several voice actors and voice actresses, and all of the cartoon characters they voiced, as they are first created in the 1980's and the 1990's, including those of Animaniacs, Yakety Yak, Take it Back, Opposites Attract, Batman: The Animated Series, Taz-Mania, Cats Don't Dance, Quest for Camelot, and Tiny Toon Adventures. I am also even trying to readd all of the artists that did the Time Life book series The Enchanted World within the The Enchanted World article, starting with the first installment, The Enchanted World: Wizards and Witches. Sooner or later, I will restore all of the said material back into the said various articles. Please do think about it and then decide to let me restore what you, Binksternet, or some other user removed. Please do grant me my request. Okay? You got that? Thank you. 50.205.182.253 (talk) 20:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm blocked on here from edititing forever and I want to find a way to be unblocked by finding another admin
Hello it's me Jon Meyer who edited on the List of The PowerPuff Girls Episodes a couple years ago. I have been blocked from editing on this website forever and I need to find a real admin for this website and ask him or her about what I did was wrong and would get another chance to be unblocked from editing. So i need some advice on how to find the other admins on this website since the user Star Mississippi is the only admin I know. But if i can't find another admin then I will just delete my account and never come back again. Also the PowerPuff Girls episode Boogie Frights is really shown on the Scooby Doo's Greatest Mysteries Video tape but i'm never adding that back in. Have a nice day and i will follow the rules on here again. JonHaroldMeyer96 (talk) 01:34, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I was the person who added an unsourced mention of the golden pot achievement in "Getting Over It." As I said in the edit, this refers to how Diogenes' pot gradually attains shades of gold over 50 attempts. I failed to find any mention of this from a reliable source, due to this information's relative obscurity, but it does verifiably exist, as is observable within the game itself. Is it possible to just cite the game directly, or should I defer to your removal for want of a proper source? This link leads to an Imgur post of a partial transformation, which I add to reinforce this concept's existence, not as a potential source. [1]TheTwig001 (talk) 20:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheTwig001: - Per MOS:VGGAMEPLAY, gameplay sections should be written "for a general audience. Assume that the reader has heard of a video game but has never played one. Introduce the game in terms of the player's actions and goals" - if the pot turning gold is an obscure part of the game not important to gameplay and reliable secondary sources don't discuss it, I don't think it should be on the article, even if a primary source such as a manual mentions it. Template:Cite video game may be used to cite a game itself, but I don't think that would be apt given my concern regarding its lack of coverage and impact. Waxworker (talk) 11:16, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I've had this section of the style guide pointed out to me before, but I suppose I don't learn my lesson. I appreciate your diligence and courteousness, especially with the other discussions on here with people who seem to be far more aggressive than I. I wish you fortunes for all your endeavors. TheTwig001 (talk) 21:18, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I put sources on the List of programmes broadcast by Kids UK TV Channels
You said you needed a source as to why I added her being the voice of Kuromi in the Netflix show. The source is in the show itself. The credits list her as one of the VAs for the English dub. Sanriogirly04 (talk) 17:48, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@2A02:C7C:C826:3A00:7510:7910:D4DD:39AB: - The edits in question were on the 21st - the edits are too stale to warn them now, and I see that you have already warned them. Going straight to a level 3 warning should only be for egregious edits - generally the editor should be warned with less strongly worded warnings (like a level 1) first to more gently inform them of issues with their edits. Waxworker (talk) 11:08, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A question in regards to my most recent edits.
Hello Waxworker. I'm making this post due to your reverts of my edits for the Sega Rally 3 page. The reason why they were removed, in your own words, were due to "not providing a reliable source". What i'm stumped on are the parts that required sourcing in the first place.
I know that doesn't necessarily come off as the easiest thing to explain, but the majority of the changes I brought up related to content within the game that wouldn't require additional sourcing, and if it did, finding what to use as a source for some of the oddly specific points i brought up would be a pain in the ass.
Even if i knew what sources I had to use, the thing that's really perplexing me is that i don't know how many sources i actually have to provide for two reasons.
A: It's not explained to me where i need to put any of the sources.
B: The page i was editing already had almost no sources before this.
So, instead of telling me what i needed to provide sources for, you just tell me that the entire page is "poorly sourced" while reverting it to an earlier version that was already as "poorly sourced" as what i had just written? Yep, makes a whole lot of sense.
I still do think we can make something work if you were to show me what i needed to provide sources for, just don't be so transparent next time, it's really demoralising. CHAL Gaming (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@CHAL Gaming: - In-line citations after each claim would make clear where the information may be verified - there already being unsourced content on the article is an issue and not an example that ought to be followed; adding more unsourced content exacerbates the issue. Please see WP:BURDEN, which states that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution". Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance related to citing sources that may be helpful. WP:VG/RS has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously been discussed by other editors, and there may be magazine coverage on Archive.org. Waxworker (talk) 11:17, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reason for undoing changes
Hello Waxworker! You undid my changes to the Aneurysm article without an explanation earlier, how come? Did I miss something or do something wrong in my edit? I went through all references in the article and fixed up all citations. I did also rephrase some paragraphs to make them sound less like promotional material, though. I’m less sure about that part of my edit, did I miss something there? Gurkubondinn (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gurkubondinn: - I was reverting this disruptive edit from an IP (likely related to this ANI thread,"IP word vandalism") - a lot of IPs were rapidly randomly changing words in articles, largely to close synonyms that change the meaning of the content/break infobox parameters (e.g. in the linked edit changing an album being "released" to "free" and the name of an album titled "Aware" to "Mindful") - I've restored your edit while manually reverting the IP disruption. Waxworker (talk) 18:27, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Grand, thank you -- that explains it. I struggled with that sentence about the album having been "free", it felt like a strange sentence and I didn't see anything in the references to back that up (but neither to dispute it). Didn't catch that it was from a recent dispruptive edit. Thanks for the help! Thought for sure I'd missed something.. :)
@Waxworker: Thanks for pointing me to the ANI thread, what a bizarre set of changes to make.. It's like if someone set an LLM loose on Wikipedia, but somehow also making it translate something or input instructions in a different langauge, and was trying to target low-key articles for some reason. Bizarre.
Thank you for your change on the Tigger's Honey Hunt page. I wasn't aware that GameFAQs wasn't a good source for release dates.
Do you happen to know any reputable sources for video game release dates? I've been struggling to find them for this game. If you don't know no worries at all, just thought I'd ask!
@IngeniousPachyderm: - Nothing in particular springs to mind as to a consistent reliable source explicitly for release dates other than magazines often having a long list of upcoming releases for X month. Press releases/official website refs are fine, though secondary sourcing is better - WP:VG/RS has some guidance regarding otherwise reliable sources that have issues with release dates in their database sections as opposed to articles, with IGN giving the misleading release date of December 31 if they don't actually have a release date on file, and GameSpot and Metacritic source their release dates from GameFAQs. Waxworker (talk) 23:20, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for providing that info. Is it safe to assume that IGN's database release dates are accurate if they aren't listed as "December 31", as in the below 2 examples?
@LineBoyd: - I don't have an opinion on this matter and I don't believe I've ever edited that article - I would recommend discussing this on the talk page with the editor who reverted you/other contributors to the article. Waxworker (talk) 23:24, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I was the one who added the recent edits to the page on Roswell Conspiracies without citing my sources. My cited sources would have to be the episodes themselves, but I can't link to unauthorized videos, per the rules, and I doubt there’s a trusted fansite dedicated to scanned scripts of episodes. I could mention specific episodes within the text, but it could become redundant with how most of the characters only appear in one or two episodes. My edits were meant to add details to broad descriptions, as well as some clarification and corrections. I admit that my edit could be more concise, and probably also corrected further, and I also understand if they were excessively detailed, especially for such an obscure show. 2600:6C46:6100:2540:D002:DDF7:E895:549F (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@2600:6C46:6100:2540:D002:DDF7:E895:549F: - The lists of characters are already excessively long, alongside the issue of being unsourced - I don't know enough about the show to be able to trim it, but another editor may trim it or WP:TNT the section entirely due to these concerns. Ideally secondary reliable sources should be cited, but primary sources such as the episodes themselves may be cited using Template:Cite episode (without linking to copyright violations) - though the info added should be explicitly stated or shown in the source cited rather than garnered through an editor's interpretation, which is WP:OR. Waxworker (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Possibly I forgot to add, in my headline, that I’ve seen / watched all 13 episodes, which is one way I was aware. It doesn’t even, for reasons unknown, say what I submitted in - what you might have heard of - an ‘AI overview’. Thoughtcametome (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2025 (UTC) Thoughtcametome[reply]
@Thoughtcametome: - Personal experience watching the show is WP:OR and unreliable. Reliable sources would need to discuss that there is no character that appears in every episode to show that this is notable - this seems like trivia to me. Help:Referencing for beginners has some guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful. I'm unsure what you're referring to regarding an "AI overview". Waxworker (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An ‘AI overview’ is doing a search, on Google, like exactly what I added, and getting the answer I was expecting. There isn’t a trivia section, on the Junglies article, where I could have added this. This is one of my favourite shows, and I’ve three favourite characters, and you might know how, in the Filmation MOTU cartoon, He-Man is the only character to appear in all 130 episodes, and, respectively, in the ThunderCats cartoon, Lion-O is the only character to appear in all 130 episodes, whereas other TV shows don’t be as consistent as this, where ‘not one single character appears in every single episode’. Thoughtcametome (talk) 17:11, 15 August 2025 (UTC) Thoughtcametome[reply]
let me tell you one thing
i forgot to mention that the looney tunes fandom on fandom.com thinks that Little Red Riding Rabbit is a 1943 short due to the short's Early release in 1943
that's why I edit the wikipedia page for the short cause I wanted it to be similar to the one on the looney tunes fandom WindowsGGFromYouTube (talk) 11:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i even tried to edit the release date then some people put it back to 1943
then I tried talking it out when someone named Low Spark of Lyman talked to me in the talk page saying: Evidence has been found of the cartoon being shown as early as December 1943.
I tried telling him again along with editing the date but then
he said: First, you don't need to shout (i.e. writing in all-caps). Second, you are not part of staff here, so you don't have much standing for that imperative tone. Third, you are still omitting a signature for your posts.
If you keep edit warring on that article, especially with that kind of behavior, you may be blocked from editing it without further notice.
He is credited as the narrator in all episode's credits. I can't find any websites, however he is credited in episodes. Can I permanently add Situation Critical to his page? Mayonnaise Muncher (talk) 18:49, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I received your message about needing to cite reliable sources on my changes. My changes outline ongoing developments to the game, which I am personally implementing. Public announcements have been made on social media and a new website, the latter of which was linked among my changes.
I will provide whatever further evidence I can provide as a reliable source, but I do not know what would qualify. Must I wait until the Steam page for the new version of the game is active, and then link that? It will happen next week, so I can reapply these edits at that point.
@Wespaugh: - Editing articles about subjects in which you are personally involved is discouraged per WP:COI - WP:COIEDIT has guidance regarding editing with a conflict of interest. Social media generally isn't a great source as it is WP:USERGENERATED, but may be fine from an 'official' account connected to the subject, though secondary reliable sourcing would be better - WP:VG/RS has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources related to video games that have previously been discussed by other editors. In-line citations should be used to clarify where information added is sourced from - Help:Referencing for beginners has guidance regarding citing sources that may be helpful. The official website may also be fine as a source, though should be formatted as a citation rather than a bare url - the site also doesn't confirm the added estimated release date of "March, 2026", the website linked doesn't specify a month, only saying "Spring of 2026". A Steam listing would also be fine as a source, though as a citation and not an external link at the bottom of the page - storefront external links are discouraged per MOS:VGEL. Storefronts such as Steam are also not a platform, and should not be listed in the infobox per MOS:VGPLATFORMS. Waxworker (talk) 15:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thoughtcametome: - WP:RSP has a (non-exhaustive) list of reliable/unreliable sources that have previously been discussed by other editors that may be helpful to consult, but what characters are/aren't in very episode doesn't seem notable to me and I don't think that reliable sources will have discussed this. Trivia sections are also discouraged per WP:TRIVIA. Waxworker (talk) 14:17, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did say, articles (even if not exactly Wikipedia) usually do point out if there’s a character who appears in every single episode, or not (eg. He-Man being the only character to appear in all 130 episodes of the 80s MOTU cartoon, and, respectively, Lion-o being the only character to appear in all 130 episodes of the 80s ThunderCats cartoon). Unlike those two shows, there isn’t a Junglies fandom, that, unlike Wikipedia, might allow that information to be added. Thoughtcametome (talk) 20:35, 22 August 2025 (UTC) Thoughtcametome[reply]
You mentioned that you reverted a sock's edits but you also reverted all the edits made after the sock (such as mine updating a table, someone else's general fixes which included removing a dup source). There's no requirement to revert everything a sock did except for vandalism (WP:SOCKHELP#Reverting edits). If you want to manually remove the edits the sock did at Travis Willingham, I'm not going to contest it but would ask you preserve the subsequent edits by non-socks. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're constantly reverting edits made to Ramsey Ann Naito's page, when I made the edit that she was an executive producer for The Loud House Movie. In the credits of the official film itself, she is listed, clear view, as an executive producer with the series' showrunner Michael Rubiner. It's not even false information - she is legitimately in the credits as an executive producer. I don't know what else to tell you, but to stop trying to cause an editing conflict. I may be wrong in writing this, but I please ask for you to stop trying to make this situation worse. Much appreciated, thank you. Multiplivision (talk) 15:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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@GrankElderDragonSlayer: - The linked site 'IMVDB' appears to be an unreliable WP:USERGENERATED source as it is user-edited. The linked Youtube video on the page itself would be a reliable source (as it is an official artist channel) if he is credited, but there doesn't seem to be any credits at the end of the video or in the description. Waxworker (talk) 23:13, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Regarding Adult Swim (Canada)
If it's really against the rules to list the programming lineup on the channel's article, then why not just have a seperate article for the lineup? 50.110.166.132 (talk) 18:29, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@50.110.166.132: - Some channels have WP:STANDALONE articles of lists of programming, but such programming lists are often of questionable notability. An article could be created and submitted through WP:AFC. On the article for the channel itself, the sourced prose currently under the 'Programming' section seems sufficient to cover the topic, and an exhaustive list of programming is discouraged per WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Waxworker (talk) 14:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I think it's time that vandal be reported. Whoever that person is has previously made a false report to have a user blocked for merely reverting the vandalism at the Katie and Orbie article. Loyalmoonie (talk) 02:38, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Loyalmoonie: - I personally wouldn't describe their edits as vandalism - just disruptive addition of unsourced content. There's no good rangeblock that would resolve this from what I see, so I've requested page protection at WP:RPPI. Waxworker (talk) 09:19, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I just reported the newest IP of that user to WP:AIV. I can only hope they can put a clamp on that disruptive editing, as I should explain that it was ShermanDuArthur who got blocked wrongfully because the IP vandal had actually reported him to AIV for reverting the vandalism; fortunately, SDA was unblocked upon realization of the mistake... Loyalmoonie (talk) 14:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Help with Disruptive User
I have something to say about LegoCityDude61892, whose talk page you recently posted on. Since May 2021 (he has a second account: LegoCityDude92), I've been in mostly silent but tedious disagreement with this stubborn user who won't stop editing the pages of voice actors Michael and Paul Dobson, and removing information I added myself with the proper citations. He won't stop insisting that Paul is older than Michael when our best sources say otherwise (I used interviews with the actors themselves as my sources). Not only does he reject the actors' own words, but he also insists that the flawed Dubbing Wiki (and other related wikis) is reliable, despite he himself utterly dismissing IMDb.
I'm tired of correcting his constant disruptive edits. Could you please help me revert when he edits the pages again and I'm not around? Thank you.