No worries! I am concerned there may be a wider issue now so I will scan through the rest—a lot of the article needs work anyway. MB243706:43, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found the article (and the section) by searching for insource:"chatgpt.com". Editors who use ChatGPT are too lazy to even remove that bit from the link, they just copy-paste the text without thinking or reading it over. TurboSuperA+(connect)06:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They can't even get book quotes right; I asked GPT for a list and it hallucinated 20 of them. I told it to stop making things up and it immediately did so again! It's worrying that people can hastily add such information without verifying what's been said. I find LLMs very useful for idea generation and some code fixes but nothing more. Fortunately, this instance only got his class position and total laps completed wrong; at least the overall positions and other details were correct. MB243707:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I told it to stop making things up and it immediately did so again!
When I use LLMs it feels like I am correcting them half the time. This "AI" thing is nothing but a fad, a pump-and-dump scheme. Some of these companies have valuations in the billions of dollars. It's like we haven't learned anything from the dotcom bubble, or any of the other bubbles.
I find LLMs very useful for idea generation and some code fixes but nothing more.
It's basically a more advanced Google search. I think a lot of them have code execution now, so one can debug errors immediately. When it comes to generated text, a person has to "debug" it "manually".
this instance only got his class position and total laps completed wrong;
It always gets something wrong. The editor who added that paragraph has been adding lots of LLM-generated text and sources to Wikipedia. I left a comment on their talk page asking them to stop using LLM to edit. They haven't been active this month, so I hope when they come back they agree to not use it any more. TurboSuperA+(connect)07:53, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it will become of good use eventually, but we are decades away from that point. I find I'm spending more time verifying its "work" than I would be if I did the research myself. It was completely useless when I wrote my engineering thesis barring its use in programming—admittedly, that was more to do with me being useless with MATLAB syntax.
I'm surprised this instance slipped under my radar given they had completely removed an entire unrelated section to add it. I remember seeing someone correcting the section's heading and being confused (given I wrote the headings) but at least I now know I wasn't being a fool after all. MB243708:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it will become of good use eventually
Maybe. Right now they're using it to spy on people, target ads and make autonomous killing machines. I'm not going to hold my breath for AI innovations that will improve the life of regular people. If AI could do laundry, tidy the home, clean the dishes, clean the floors, every single household would have an AI. As it stands now, they're using it so the toaster and the refridgerator can collect data on you.
I find I'm spending more time verifying its "work" than I would be if I did the research myself.
Yup. Honestly, it's nothing more than a curiosity. I mostly use it for things like getting a one-liner ffmpeg command to convert a video and keep it under a certain file size.
barring its use in programming—admittedly, that was more to do with me being useless with MATLAB syntax.
I wish LLM was around when I wrote my thesis (also involved MATLAB).
I remember seeing someone correcting the section's heading and being confused (given I wrote the headings) but at least I now know I wasn't being a fool after all.
Clean the floors—Roomba has been doing it since 2002! It will always take a bit of engineering genius to solve those issues. With defence budgets ballooning, there is no doubt such genius will be misused. I wish LLM was around when I wrote my thesis—honestly, it saved me from losing my mind on a fair few occasions. It's not the best with wikitext, unfortunately, but was able to solve a few template issues I've had. Mostly on me for sticking to my guns and refusing to use Lua. One has to trust one's hunches. They exist for a reason! I have no clue why I didn't investigate further, low-IQ moment on my end; must've been busy! MB243708:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Roomba has been doing it since 2002!
Poorly. Roombas just vacuum a bit and they cannot get the corners, under the sofa, etc. all the places where the dust gathers.
refusing to use Lua.
Lua is easy. Sure it is weird, and most of the things you learn aren't transferrable to other languages, but it does have its own logic and it is easy to learn.
I have no interest in interacting with you, so consider this a formal request to stay off my talk page unless you are mandated to post something. Thanks. TylerBurden (talk) 18:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reverting edits with sensitive private info and for requesting revdel. When you do so in the future, it's better to use a nondescript edit summary, so as to call as little attention as possible to the edit while waiting for an admin to respond. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:13, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Could you please see the draft I have revised? I have corrected the comments that were pointed out by another reviewer. I have found 3-4 independent authoritative sources that describe the award in detail:
I did a search for sources. I linked the ones I found here. I am unsure whether the topic meets notability guidelines, I'll leave that for another reviewer to decide. TurboSuperA+(connect)07:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TurboSuperA+ I’ve been actively working on addressing the concerns raised in the draft you commented on (like the AI-style writing and formatting). I’ve tried cleaning up even the thin spaces and similar issues, but I still haven’t fully resolved everything. If you have any pointers or would be willing to help with preparing it for acceptance, I’d really appreciate it. This article is important, though I'm not the draft creator. Majid8097 (talk) 09:05, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can help when I can. But my suggestion would be to take it paragraph by paragraph, source by source. Read a paragraph, check what the source says, rewrite the paragraph in your own words so that it says what the source is saying. TurboSuperA+(talk)09:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the advice. I’ve followed your suggestion and gone through much of the draft paragraph by paragraph, cross checking the sources and rewriting the content to better reflect what the sources 'actually' say. I’ve made sure to keep the structure accurate while avoiding overclaims. If you get a chance to look over it again, I’d appreciate any further thoughts! Majid8097 (talk) 10:43, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! I think you were working on an Ngram essay—I remember you referencing this and I swear I read it within the last few days, but now I can't find it. Anyway, another pitfalls that I think is worth mentioning: The OCR technology is prone to mistakes with correctly rendering diacritics and "special characters". Thus it may not accurately identify variants like cafe versus café. This is mentioned here. This has implications for discussions involving WP:UE, WP:DIACRITICS, MOS:DIACRITICS, and related P&G. As with a lot of Ngram queries, I would give more weight to large differences that were stable over time, such that an error rate of, say, 10% would still produce a significant lead.
Although we disagreed on the question of deprecating Ngrams, I find the project of cataloguing its limitations, raising awareness, and providing tips and tricks to be worthwhile.
Where did you see the news article I have already changed everything if you do not have an argument for deleting the article please keep quiet Norikarm20109 (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I was rude I just couldn't create articles for 2 months now I studied the rules of Wikipedia and tried to do everything
And an article about Armenians who left the Russian Empire and began to survive against the Ottomans and Azerbaijan during the First World War
Information conducting you can enter all sources of the world and there it will also be written that Andranik Ozanyan went to Zangezur and through Zangezur went to Artsakh against the army of Nuri Pasha
Even in some sources it is mentioned and I decided to take all the events from the 1st World War but at the time when Armenia became independent and make an article about it
