User talk:Simply south/July 2010 to December 2010 archive
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New safety measures announced for safety with cyclists around lorries
New cable car system announced in the Thames Gateway area
Southfields stations becomes step-free
Fewer delays in cars being held up by traffic lights
June
Bus crime lowest in six years
Early closure of Northern Line cancelled
Exhibition at Aldwych until July 9th
More air-conditioned Underground and Overground trains on their way
New electric vehicles with special livery to distinguish them join the taxis
Hammersmith & City and Circle to close between 24th July and 15th August for upgrade work as well as works to do with Paddington station and Crossrail
Rotherhithe tunnel to be southbound during weekend closures
New Digital Countdowns to be trialled telling people how long they have to cross the road
Deaths and serious injuries on roads half that of a decade ago in London
Improvements such as maps, signs and timetables as well as flags showing "River Buses" for commuter boats and "River Tours" for tourists to be introduced
Motorcycles to trial using bus lanes
First docking station for cycling scheme installed on the Capital's streets
Information from TfL to be used for commercial gain freely
TfL is not to occupy the Shard
Bank, Charing Cross, Earl's Court, Green Park, Holborn, Hyde Park Corner, Knightsbridge, Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Victoria are to reduce energy usage for the 10:10 campaign
£700 million set for Victoria Underground to be redeveloped as contract is awarded
A new police task force has been set up to deal with stolen or damaged bicycles
New Chief Executive Officer for Tube Lines
A new set of poems are on display on London Underground trains
The southern roundabout at Elephant& Castle will be removed by October and converted into a signalised junction
The North London Line fully reopens are completion of upgrade work
The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved. The portal has had a new selected biography section added to bring it up to standard. Please vote at Portal:London Transport/Vote.
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If you think there is anything else i have missed, please drop me a note or leave a message at The Metropolitan's feedback page. Also if you feel you want to do an edition, again leave me a message.
Again i would like to state this newsletter is looking for anyone willing to do an issue. This is especially for August as i am going to be too busy. I may not be able to do September either. Please help.
I have also had to give less detail on some reports as the Article Alert Bot is currently down.
New guidelines have been proposed for railway accidents. Please see WP:RAILCRASH.
Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at WT:LT#London bus route articles and WT:BUS. This has essentially ground to a halt.
Another discussion as well as straw poll has been on whther the frequency of trains per hour should be added. It appeared there was no consensus.
New usage data has been given by TfL for the London Underground for 2009
A small discussion talk places regarding which project banners should be placed on London Underground navboxes.
Did you know...
that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway's first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
...that bus company London Country North East lost over £5 million in less than two years of existence before it was split up in 1989?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
... that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway`s first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
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Could you elaborate on which discussions "it comes up" apart from deletion discussions? You are right but some examples would be useful. For myself, I don't see much difference between an entire article and part of an article, small or large, so I think many of the points made here are more widely valid; but to quote them the natural response would be "that's the deletion process, we're not discussing deleting the article", which is the kind of point of process that I think hurts editors attempting to improve the encyclopaedia. Full disclosure: I am an inclusionist. Si Trew (talk) 10:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Amalthea
Do you think he deserves the MOTD award/barnstar too? If yes, please add his username to the first list on my talk page. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 21:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Summer 2010 MOTD Barnstars
Consensus has been reached! Do you want to deliver all the awards (29 for the summer-season-reason (^___^) + 8 for the long time contributors) on behalf of MOTD? Many thanks in advance. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
This award is given to you for helping out Motto of the day. Thanks to your effort, MOTD has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project!
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== Summer 2010 MOTD Barnstar ==
{{subst:MOTD Barnstar|This award is given to you for helping out [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|Motto of the day]]. Thanks to your effort, [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|MOTD]] has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! <small>– delivered by [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] on behalf of '''[[Wikipedia:Motto of the day]]''' {{subst:CURRENTTIME}}, {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</small>}}
"This award is given to you for your long time and outstanding support to Motto of the day. We hope you will be back soon!"
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== Award for long time and outstanding support to MOTD ==
{{subst:MOTD Barnstar|This award is given to you for your long time and outstanding support to [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|Motto of the day]]. We hope you will be back soon! <small>– delivered by [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] on behalf of '''[[Wikipedia:Motto of the day]]''' {{subst:CURRENTTIME}}, {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</small>}}
This award is given to you for helping out Motto of the day. Thanks to your effort, MOTD has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! – delivered by pjoef on behalf of Wikipedia:Motto of the day18:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Motto Shop
Hi! It's Belugaboy. Thanks so much for the barnstar, I love creating mottoes, it's no problem! I've seen you around MOTD a lot, too, and I was wondering if you'd like to create a "Motto Shop" with me.
You're wondering, what the heck is a Motto Shop? Simple. The first motto I created was special to me, because it was actually scheduled. Attracted some negative feedback, but still, I made that my motto to live by on the wiki. So, I thought we could spread the joy of having a motto to live by around by creating mottoes for people based on what they want. Here's the cheese. I'll make a special link for us to put on our userpages to lead to the Motto Shop. People will be able to submit the base of the motto and what it has to say or express. So, whoever's page it's left on will be the person who creates the motto. And once we get up and running, you can recruit or I can recruit any new affiliations or members of our "team." Our goal, five mottoes a month. Sound good?
I am not sure it will work. You can copy the code of an approved motto when it is showed, and then show it on your user page whenever you want. For example, I use {{Motd cquote}} for showing the motto of the day, but I included that template on top of a list of phrases that I really love. Please, post your proposal(s) on the discussion page of the project so we can see what other participants thing on the subject. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Rascal the Peaceful
I'm sorry I gave you to do this task while you're busy with the editing of the page about the new henge discovered at Stonehenge, as well as in real life (of course.) I think that you will receive many thanks, I hope that in addition to a "nuisance" it will also please you. For any help, leave a message on my talk page. Yes, Rascal the Peaceful (a.k.a. Patches1998) both accounts have been blocked. I read something about, but I really do not know what to do. Thank you for taking the time to post all those barnstars. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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A £300 million contract is let for the upgrade of Bond Street station
The first of 191 air-conditioned S Stock trains enters passenger service
July
Transport for London launches Barclays Cycle Hire bicycle sharing scheme
New safety measures announced for safety with cyclists around lorries
New cable car system announced in the Thames Gateway area
Southfields stations becomes step-free
Fewer delays in cars being held up by traffic lights
June
Bus crime lowest in six years
Early closure of Northern Line cancelled
Exhibition at Aldwych until July 9th
More air-conditioned Underground and Overground trains on their way
New electric vehicles with special livery to distinguish them join the taxis
Hammersmith & City and Circle to close between 24th July and 15th August for upgrade work as well as works to do with Paddington station and Crossrail
Rotherhithe tunnel to be southbound during weekend closures
New Digital Countdowns to be trialled telling people how long they have to cross the road
Deaths and serious injuries on roads half that of a decade ago in London
Improvements such as maps, signs and timetables as well as flags showing "River Buses" for commuter boats and "River Tours" for tourists to be introduced
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You'll note that I've made some changes to the organisation of the newsletter, which should make it easier to update. Hope you like it. --DavidCane (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I think I was unclear (as always ~ lol). I do not mean the motto for January 1, which is more than okay and, if I remember correctly, received my support, but I am referring to regular mottoes. Today, I have approved a motto for the 22nd of December 2010 (which is just three days before Xmas). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 22:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
You beat me Keith. Simply put, it is (nowadays) the Ffestiniog Railway, but the company uses a single F, and when it was running a letter service it was a single F. Please move these articles back. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to Matts note, I also checked the Railway letter service page - not quite the same reasoning. For this I refer you to [[2]] a temporary site setup to display items it publishes.
This means the file Festiniog Railway Letter Service was incorrectly renamed to use double Ff, and therfore needs to be restored to its correct title (the associated talk page as well) If you read the text of both the article and talk page, you will see it is not referred by the double F name --Keith18:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
My mistake. It also says it on the railway website. Thanks for pointing it out.
Btw, what you've said about moving over redirects is slightly wrong. If the redirect has had no edits other than the one where it was created i.e. the page has 1 edit, pages should be able to be moved over. I don't know why you were not able to move the pages. It is only with more than one edit that requires RM. Also i am not an admin. Simply south (talk) 23:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
My thanks for restoring to the original name. I think a bit clearer explanation would be appreciated; that the original 19th century licence from (what is now) Royal Mail, was issued to the Festiniog Railway Co. (as per its official title). The Ff welsh name has only come into common use since the mid 1980's. It now promotes itself as the Ff, with all but official documentation. The company cannot change its name without an act of Parliament as it is one of the few remaining statuatiry companies (a legal term!). One of the support groups has renamed itself to Ff, whilst the Heritage Group, and the Railway Letter Service have retained the single F name - again thanks --Keith03:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Simply south, I'm sorry I totally missed your comment tucked between the Bugle and awards boxes on my page, not helped by my being on holiday. That is another interesting find, they keep popping up everywhere! There's been a lot of work at Marden recently (I see you've noticed that article too). Ranger Steve (talk) 08:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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I hope you can enlighten me. Where did the "standard" for RDT at the end of every railway route map come from? I have just gone through a 25% sample of the diagrams in Category:Rail routemap templates and found very few with the RDT suffix. Even in the UK only a few currently have the RDT suffix. Are you sure this is going the right way?
To date the template has had the same name as the article, this is now changing - and there are now many articles going to require changing to remove the redirects.
Hi, if you are moving the name of a template that includes BS-header, i.e. {{BS-header|North Wales Coast Line|North Wales Coast Line}}, could you also change the second name in the BS-header ({{BS-header|North Wales Coast Line|North Wales Coast Line RDT}}) otherwise the v-d-e links will point at the original template and not the moved one. Thanks. Scillystuff (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
I've been creating route templates for over a year and only the minority of templates seemed to have 'RDT' on the end, I would have thought that getting rid of the RDT on all of them would be much easier for standardising. Also now we've got loads of maps which cause unimportant but needless redirects everytime you click on the v-d-e links. All I think this conversion is causing is confusion - we're trying to work out which diagrams have continuation arrows pointing the wrong way and the template names are changing. Thanks, WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 09:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
"Chesham Branch line"
What "other articles" is this move keeping it in line with? I've never heard it called anything other than "Chesham branch", and the b certainly shouldn't be capitalised. I can't think of any branch line with that "Branch line" formulation—moving it back for the moment
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Many, many apologies for skipping another month but i had to leave it due to unexpected personal reasons (not Wikipedia related). Anyway, here is the December edition.
Thanks for reporting that IP. You wondered in your report if the correct block had been imposed; a 31 hour block looked appropriate to me. Remember it's an anonymous "contributor" and their IP address is a dynamic IP. This means that they can get a brand new IP address within a couple of minutes (possibly seconds) simply by rebooting their broadband router. That means they can carry on vandalising with their new IP address but leave the old one blocked, possibly denying access to a useful contributor who happens to be allocated the old IP address in future. So dynamic IPs tend to be blocked for as short a time as possible. 24h or 31h is usual for a first offence. Our vandal doesn't seem to have had the sense to get a new IP address though, or to stop behaving like a baby. (Hmmm. Stupid as well as disruptive...) so I've now reblocked them for a longer period (3 days). If they continue the block will simply get longer and longer - possibly a week next time, or maybe a month. Cheers, and thanks for the slice of cake. TonywaltonTalk01:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the edit, but I don't believe that Kb wanted his full name published on Wikipedia. I am going to consider it a privacy matter, unless his widow instructs me otherwise. I know that she was very concerned about releasing his birthdate. Best regards! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi there. I'm a bit surprised by this - do you really feel there is a strong association there? I felt not, and the article doesn't mention the Barbican other than in passing in a footnote. I thought there was supposed to be more than this to acquire a category, and that the article was supposed to make it clear why the cat was there. I'm not actually ready to start a fist fight over this (it being Christmas and everything) but I'd be very interested to hear your thinking. Cheers, DBaK (talk) 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
... but thank you for the barnstar, it's much appreciated! Now I'll have to hunt through Iri's talk page archives to see why I deserved it! Best wishes for 2011, on and off Wikipedia. BencherliteTalk10:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)