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Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page had it). My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108143200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20250108143200-January_music","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250108150000-Gerda_Arendt-20250108143200"]}}-->

Happy New Year @Gerda:. I hope you have a great and successful New Year!! Tom Johnson, "Nine Bells". I've not heard that. I really like that abstract/minimalist stuff, Its very peaceful but don't like the footsteps. I wonder if they are meant to be part of it, the movement itself is part of the piece. I was listening to Hymm, Mixmaster Morris, Pete Namlook this morning. I keep listening to this, "The real dream of sails" by Harold Budd and Steve Reich and Clair Chase (together) now and again e.g. "Vermont Counterpoint". The seem to collaborate with Phillip Glass now and again, who i've been listening too since my 20's. It seems chaotic but it is intensely ordered, or possibly chaos into order. scope_creep^Talk 15:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108150000","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250108150000-Gerda_Arendt-20250108143200","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20250113214600-Scope_creep-20250108150000","c-Gerda_Arendt-20250114181900-Scope_creep-20250108150000","c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083200-Scope_creep-20250108150000"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

I just love that last sentence! - Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250113214600","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20250113214600-Scope_creep-20250108150000","replies":[]}}-->

Today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:19, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250114181900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20250114181900-Scope_creep-20250108150000","replies":[]}}-->

Today I had a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who just became GA, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250121083200","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20250121083200-Scope_creep-20250108150000","replies":[]}}-->

		The New Page Reviewer's Iron Award
		This award is given in recognition to Scope creep for conducting 856 article reviews in 2024. Thank you so much for all your excellent work. Keep it up! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108180900","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108180900-NPP_Awards_for_2024","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250108181600-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108180900"]}}-->

Hi @Hey man im josh: Are you sure its as high as that. I don't feel as though I did that much. scope_creep^Talk 18:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108181600","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250108181600-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108180900","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108181800-Scope_creep-20250108181600"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

That's what the quarry query we use tells us. A little bit here and there goes a long way! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108181800","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108181800-Scope_creep-20250108181600","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250108181900-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108181800"]}}-->

Must be, certainly doesn't feel like it. scope_creep^Talk 18:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108181900","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250108181900-Hey_man_im_josh-20250108181800","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

Hans Globke contains "Gale, Cengage Learning". I think that is a mistake, but I am not sure how to fix it. It is possibly Gale (publisher). Polygnotus (talk) 11:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250109112900","author":"Polygnotus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Polygnotus-20250109112900-Hans_Globke","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250109120000-Polygnotus-20250109112900"]}}-->

@Polygnotus: That seems to be ok. Its Gale, which is part of Cengage Learning. I fixed an error in the references early. It looks odd. I'll make it make it Gale since its recognised. A bit of branding crept in from worldcat. scope_creep^Talk 12:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250109120000","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250109120000-Polygnotus-20250109112900","replies":["c-Polygnotus-20250109120200-Scope_creep-20250109120000"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

Woah that is the worst brand name ever. Polygnotus (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250109120200","author":"Polygnotus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Polygnotus-20250109120200-Scope_creep-20250109120000","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250109120600-Polygnotus-20250109120200"]}}-->

Yea, I don't even know pronounce it properly. scope_creep^Talk 12:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250109120600","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250109120600-Polygnotus-20250109120200","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

Hello mate, there's an ongoing discussion about album reissues and remixes at WikiProject Music. Please do stop by and leave your suggestion Thank you. dxneo (talk) 18:09, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112180900","author":"Dxneo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dxneo-20250112180900-Reissues_and_remixes","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250112182900-Dxneo-20250112180900"]}}-->

Hi @Dxneo: How goes it? I've never created a band or an album article to be honest,so I'm probably not the best editor for this discussion. Generally I'd say it would be based on coverage. I do know during AFC reviews and during the NPP review check there is often a push to merge unless they are really special with their own standalone coverage that is seperate from the original product, but it seems to be very rare. They need to really special. I hope that helps. Its as much as I can offer and thanks for considering me. scope_creep^Talk 18:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112182900","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250112182900-Dxneo-20250112180900","replies":[],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

Hiya, just checking you saw the section I started for your questions? User_talk:Akerbeltz#Gaelic_place_names Akerbeltz (talk) 11:50, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250114115000","author":"Akerbeltz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Akerbeltz-20250114115000-Gaelic","replies":[]}}-->

You wrote "That is laudable." I don't understand what you meant given what you wrote after that. Doug Weller talk 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250115090400","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20250115090400-Battle_of_Lucano","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250115092400-Doug_Weller-20250115090400"]}}-->

I didn't think he was going to post any sources originally. I thought the editor was just going to ignore the request, like other editors who have created many articles as I've seen in the past at Afd. Sometimes they don't take it on. When I looked at the sources, there was lots of passing mentions on the Battle of Lucano, single sentences, probably taken from a single Arabic sources and duplicated across multiple books. I think there is a genuine reasoning there, not just some incompetence or elevating nothing into something to give it an artificial notabilty that doesn't exist. The article should be deleted and I still think he should banned from writing articles because the editor is still not capable of writing a real article or evaluating sources correctly. I'll clarify the comment. scope_creep^Talk 09:24, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250115092400","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250115092400-Doug_Weller-20250115090400","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20250115112000-Scope_creep-20250115092400"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 11:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250115112000","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20250115112000-Scope_creep-20250115092400","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi Scope_creep, with respect, I would like to push back on the justification you offered. There's nothing in the criteria that says "ultra-local" sources are unacceptable, that seems to be a restriction you invented. The sources I cited are from local government, the city's paper of record, and the most formidable political news outlet in Florida. Judge Moran is an elected official in the largest city in Florida, she was the first woman in that city to run for mayor, and also one of the most significant contributors to the passage of a human rights ordinance that offered protection for the first time to the city's LGBTQ+ community. All of those experiences collectively speak to her notability.

Flauren06 (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250122185000","author":"Flauren06","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flauren06-20250122185000-Request_on_18:50:25,_22_January_2025_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Flauren","replies":["c-Scope_creep-20250122190600-Flauren06-20250122185000"]}}-->

Hi @Flauren06: There are two different folk who looked at the article and came to the same decision. I know the criteria and I know what is needed. I have long experience of it. As a WP:BLP, it needs high-quality sources, stated in the first line of the policy and they are not there. Typically individuals who have done a job and shown some compassion arent particular notable and with ultra-local sources like that don't show much else, what can you do. It as much of a muchness in terms of the references and fairly generic and routine. I don't she is particularly notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250122190600","author":"Scope creep","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scope_creep-20250122190600-Flauren06-20250122185000","replies":["c-Flauren06-20250122191100-Scope_creep-20250122190600"],"displayName":"scope_creep"}}-->

I'm looking at the notability guidelines right now...

"People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." She satisfies this requirement.

Under politicians/judges, "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.". She satisfies this as well.

There's literally nothing that disqualifies local news sources. Flauren06 (talk) 19:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250122191100","author":"Flauren06","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Flauren06-20250122191100-Scope_creep-20250122190600","replies":[]}}-->

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