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Yes they should be all removed. Flags should not show the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense. I'm not sure how this trend started, but it is against Manuel of Style. Richard (talk) 01:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As far as Wikiproject Boxing is concerned, there is no consensus regarding the use of flags in infoboxes see here. Bearing in mind that so many of the other boxer's pages show flags, it may be better to reinstate this one until a definitive decision has been made at the boxing project level. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 07:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There was also another similar discussion about flags in the infobox and they were using MoS as a reason for the flag usage. I do not believe they are aware that MoS does not allow for the flags to be used in the infobox. Regardless, if somewhere down the line you had a boxing article you wanted to promote to good or featured article status, they might ask for it to be removed. Richard (talk) 16:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm...well I guess if you want to revert my edit to Joe Calzaghe then you may go ahead, however the flags are against MoS and it would be crucial to have a discussion on this regarding the boxing participants. Richard (talk) 17:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While I understand your point, in this particular case the flags are being used to represent a "nationality" field, which falls in line with WP:FLAG's appropiate use, specifically this sentence: "They are useful in articles about international sporting events to show the representative nationality of players (which may differ from their legal nationalities)." While individuals may hold different nationalities et al. these are sportsmen and must be directly related to a certain country in order to represent it, and its certainly better to use the same format used in their respective sport. There is also another direct specification "Do not use flags to indicate locations of birth and death", but that section also states that "Flag icons should never be used in the birth and death information in a biographical article's introduction and/or infobox, as flags imply citizenship and/or nationality." which isn't the case here. These are my two cents, but consensus could work better than my opinion. - Caribbean~H.Q.21:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
After looking at it again, It clearly states that this is against MoS. Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense. It goes on to say that they should only indicate a sportsperson's national squad/team or sporting nationality. Obviously (unless were talking about the Olympics) boxers are not representing a country when they fight professional. Even then, the flags seem unnecessary since there nationality is already displayed. There is no need to stress the significance of their nationality. Richard (talk) 16:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I can tell you that my experience with dual citizens hasn't been particularly positive. So, its fair to note that you will get pressure from both sides if you go against the main reference (in this case, boxrec, which mimics the Olympic format for most AIBA boxers). The flags can be used once the nationality has been established, or at least that is the way that most of the promoted articles have been handled. - Caribbean~H.Q.21:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
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For what it's worth, Richard, I believe that your actions and leadership in the renaming have been constructive a credit to the project. Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 02:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for participating at the RFC for this article in the past. Unfortunately, despite what was a clear consensus, the people trying to slant the article to the fringe view simply shopped around until they got enough other people to show up, and they are very aggressive about wanting the POV there. One of the arguments there is the typical "people used to think the sun revolved around the earth, and by your arguments we wouldn't have been allowed to say otherwise" silliness. There are also strong indications of at least one sockpuppet at work. If you cared about your input there it might help to come back and reiterate it. DreamGuy (talk) 00:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hate to bug you again, but some extremely aggressive editors on this article are again ignoring previous comments as if they didn't happen at all. They also seem to be saying I made arguments I didn't and attack those, and then when people agree that those strawman arguments are wrong (of course they are, I didn't say them) they are trying to use this as an excuse to do wahtever they want. If you have the time to come back and weigh in again it'd be very helpful. DreamGuy (talk) 16:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For wishing me a Happy Halloween. I initially thought you were another user that I have often worked with whose screen name is Richard. Why did you change your name from Juliancolton? I liked that name better. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know of this confusion so you might consider changing your name or the color of your name or something to distinguish you from the other "Richard". : ) NancyHeisetalk22:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I'm sorry, I see my mistake. Thank you for alerting me. I was looking at the first post on your talk page and did not read it through. However, there is still another Richard on Wikipedia whose signature looks a lot like yours. Font is different though. I just thought you might want to know that. See signature of user:Richardshusr. NancyHeisetalk14:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
