User talk:Mangoe

Enjoying reading your AFDs about supposed towns that appear to not be notable or maybe not even exist! Metallurgist (talk) 23:06, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your continued work addressing the Indiana place articles! I can't believe how tireless you've been looking into these, but it's certainly helping clean up our geography coverage. I noticed it appears you do the AFD nominations manually – in case you didn't know about it, you can turn on Wikipedia:Twinkle in your gadgets settings and it has a very easy-to-use interface that will automatically do most of the steps of creating an AFD or placing a PROD for you. I highly recommend it to streamline your workflow. Reywas92^Talk 03:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sick, good to know! Metallurgist (talk) 22:59, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Mangoe, I posted this on one of your noms, but realized it was closed: One thing I would suggest adding to your prechecks is to take a poke at ancestry and see if there are birth certs or obits. Like Ive found those a few times, but not always. If thats too much extra for you to take on, I usually go for your noms cause they are fun, so Ill take a look anyway.

I will say, given the paucity of material, some of these may not really be worth an article, and just deserve a brief bit on a list. Or maybe they could all be merged into a List of unincorporated communities in X township, Y county, Indiana. If you think that might be something to consider, maybe say something at WP:WikiProject Indiana and ping me that you have done so. Or maybe there should be a higher level RFC for all states. Metallurgist (talk) 23:38, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Metallurgist: The problem with births and deaths is the the strong compunction to state where everyone is from/etc. Every news article is wanting of a dateline. For me the birth thing is easy because I'm young enough to have been born in a hospital, which places me in a city for that, no problem. But I grew up in a subdivision which is still out a ways from any place else, and because of the whims of the map makers it doesn't get named on the topos. So where did I live? Well, in the nearest "city", which happens to be Laurel, Maryland, and I say that's where I'm "from". But I've never lived in Laurel or in one of the pieces of it which slop over into other counties even though they technically aren't part of the city either. So when you're talking about rural areas I would expect that people were from or were born at or died at whatever their post office was. And we have seen this in newspapers where they will have a section on some area which at the time was only served by a 4th class post office in a train station or a store or somebody's house. Mangoe (talk) 23:49, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think thats reversing what I am saying. Do you mean a subdivision of Laurel? Or an unincorporated area? I am not familiar with Marylands subdivisions other than counties. In what I am saying, if a place was notable enough to exist, it may be mentioned in these records, in which case it was for Dark Hollow and Coburg. In other cases, there is absolutely nothing to go on. I am just mentioning one more thing you might check to save the AFD resources. Podunk post offices are an interesting question. I lived for a few years in a small rural town that had exactly both of those: a small box station and a post office I think there and later in a house, which was a store. Its actually still in a different house today. However, it was always incorporated, so that makes it a bit easier to be notable. Metallurgist (talk) 00:24, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mangoe, looking for advice. WP:GEOLAND makes it clear that GNIS listing is insufficient to establish a place as ever having been "legally recognized". But what would be sufficient?

As someone originally from northern Indiana I am confident that these rows of lake cottages only identified by GNIS or on plat maps are not and have never been "legally recognized" places. But for something like this I don't know how to evaluate NicheSports (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Meant to weigh in on this, but the AfD closed first. This seems to have been covered a few times in "Pioneer History" columns, but I tend to think deletion was the correct outcome. https://www.lowellpl.lib.in.us/lowell-history-pages/pioneer-history-index/the-dinwiddies-cont/ says that "Dinwiddie Station included a grain elevator, coal and lumber yard, and the home of Jerome Dinwiddie, Edward Dinwiddie, Edward and Martha Bryant, and Carl Brownell." My sense is that this was a "rail station" in the sense that you've been using it for other Indiana places—a siding for a grain elevator and maybe a few dwellings nearby, but not really a village or community in the sense we're looking for as an article subject. Thoughts? I don't have a strong feel for midwestern settlement patterns. Choess (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When you are researching a potentially non-notable town in India, it is worthwhile to include "site:in.gov" in your search to focus the search on works published or archived by the Indiana state government. So for Coxton, India, you would Google Coxton site:in.gov at https://www.google.com/search?q=Coxton+site%3Ain.gov You can also try Coxton site:in.us https://www.google.com/search?q=Coxton+site%3Ain.us to focus your search on domains ending in in.us , which will mostly be towns, schools, school districts and state-wide associations in Indiana. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:12, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've closed the RfD at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 25#Exchange, Indiana since the page is no longer a redirect. To be honest, opening an RfD before the discussion with the AfD closer concluded was premature. Please consider waiting until the closer responds next time. Warudo (talk) 21:03, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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