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Hi, you have changed the spellings to British English (for Singapore). I had previously carefully aligned them all on American English because Fay is an American. That's also why I standardised all the dates to MDY instead of DMY. I should have thought it was mainly American readers who are interested in this subject, but still. Should I change the dates to DMY? -- Alarics (talk) 07:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Greetings, Lihaas! This is just a head's-up that I've replied to your query on the Humanities RD. I'm basically on an extended Wikibreak but since I'd just read a current newspaper article on the Atzma'ut faction I figured I could make the effort to respond to an otherwise neglected query. If you celebrate Israeli independence - Happy Holiday! -- Deborahjay (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Further: An interview with Ehud Barak, published in Haaretz that same day. FWIW, Deborahjay (talk) 04:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Please stop vandalizing West Bengal state assembly election, 2011. The "dispute" was regarding the name of the article but for apparently no reason at all, you have been reverting constructive edits on the page. You are welcome to add verifiable information but please do not under any circumstance revert the constructive edits made. I see you want to add the Gorkhaland section, and I welcome you to add it, but please stop reverting good faith edits made by fellow Wikipedians. If you revert and edit again and continue to edit war, you will leave me no choice but to report you. Thank You. GaneshBhakt (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help in the nomination. I've expanded it about another 1000 or so with response to the takover and the like.Monkeymanman (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

yeh i saw that but it was blatent vandalism and the IP has been banned for 24 hours by the admin that removed it. Monkeymanman (talk) 18:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

{{adminhelp}} can someone resolve the issue ASAP b/c the page becomes current in less than 12 hours and will be highly viewed. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Current event election(Lihaas (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)).

Which issue, please? DS (talk) 02:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, you've removed my changes in West Bengal state assembly election, 2011 citing PoV. First up, no PoV - the only time I voted ever was for the Left in Kerala. Secondly, I was merely rehashing what the cited news articles were saying. Could we bring back some of the factual details? It would better the chances of the story making it into ITN. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 15:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, didnt see that you had moved some of the content elsewhere - I thought you deleted the whole thing. Also, I still think the decline in seats shows the significance of the results and it is after all a factual statement - I'll leave it to you to decide. Thanks. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 15:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. I am going to be slow the next couple of weeks, updating stuff. But after that I am going to try to update all the indian election pages as I possibly can. Thanks for helping! --Nader85021 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Added the page. Assam. Please help expand or recruit people to expand the article. I posted it on Wikiproject Assam site, so more people will help expand it.--Nader85021 (talk) 06:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi. You seem to have misunderstood the removal of the Chilean coup hat note on September 11. If that event is not known and referred to as September 11 then it shouldn't be a hat note. Hat notes on date pages are only for events or other things that are wirely referred to by the same name as the date article. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 23:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

If you have time, let's not let the discussion on this wither on the vine. If you'd like to get additional input, you can make a request at WP:3O. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 16:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Lihaas. This is a warning regarding your edit summaries at Queen Elizabeth II's visit to the Republic of Ireland. They have nothing to do with the edits you're making and are disruptive and, in at least one case, POV. Please stick to acceptable edit summaries, you should really know better. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, how in the flying fox does the SNP's election have any relevance at all to her visit to IRELAND?! Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

You should know by now after so long on Wikipedia that blogs are not RS. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Another misleading edit summary. Again, stop it. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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[1] what was that?--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 09:11, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

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The article Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 for things which need to be addressed. – Bellatores (t.) 11:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't a reflink error. As i explained in the edit summary it was me removing a duplicate link. if you look at the address of the reference just before the deleted reference they've got identical addresses, cheers Tom B (talk) 11:12, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Create a mini-project to bring the articles of Neda, Mohamed Bouazizi, Khaled Said, and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb up to GA/FA status. Possibly expand to include others whose deaths became symbols of war and peace (i.e. Pat Tillman). Would you like to work on something like this? Ocaasi ^{t | c} 21:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/HistoryBioLife. Might need a new name, but check it out... Ocaasi ^{t | c} 04:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. An article you've edited, Palestinian cause was recently cut back to a stub and then redirected, in these two edits, which I've now reverted. The article needs development and additional cites, but if the editor who made those edits thinks it has no value, and is improper for Wikipedia, then he needs to take it to AfD rather than effecting a unilateral deletion with a redirect, in my opinion. Since it's a new article, and has been edited by only a few contributors so far, I've posted this identical message to each of their talk pages, including that of the editor who made these two edits. Please note the talk-page warning that this article is under ARBPIA restrictions, including the restriction that no editor may make more than one revert in a 24-hour period.  – OhioStandard (talk) 17:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. I just wanted to remind you to honor the request I made a few days ago for a second opinion on the SRS GA review. – Bellatores (t.) 17:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

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		For your long-running efforts, pragmatic fact-checking and interest towards a multitude of articles, most notably but not limited to, Swedish general election, 2010, Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 and lately Lebanese government of June 2011. --hydrox (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

There you go :) You've deserved it for quite long, but now came a good chance to put the credit where the credit is due. Keep on rocking! --hydrox (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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—David Levy 17:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, nice to see you have a lot of job with the article. :) Just one thing..."an election"? I mean, I understand when you introduce the subject for the first time, the indefinite article could sound reasonable. But still, "the" sounds certainly better, cf. The United States presidential election of 2008 was the 56th quadrennial presidential election.. -- Frous (talk) 07:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Removal?? I rephrased it, and I removed nothing. :O I understand your point in your wording of the first sentence, but could you please read WP:OWN, in return. In my opinion, you have done a great job with that article, but you do NOT own it. So, if I rephrase smth in a way that the edited part doesn't conflict with the rest of the article —like in the case of the first sentence— could you please calm down and think before you revert. Ok, the wording is really not that a big deal — but your attitude is, at some points. -- Frous (talk) 09:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

And besides, why did you remove the link to Jyrki Katainen's cabinet? You don't consider the result of the election relevant enough for Seel also? -- Frous (talk) 09:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot this from the beginning. overlink on see also, its already in the article + WP:OTHERCAPEXISTS and per BOLD the revert should then be on BRD (see editors talk page) Umm...could you please put that in simple English? I guess you removed the See also link because it's in the article, but what about the end, "per BOLD...??" Sorry I'm still not very familiar with this Wikipedia jargon. -- Frous (talk) 09:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I put the first sentence issue up for discussion. -- Frous (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

My request got probably lost in the relevant talk page: could you please tell me where I can invite editors to discuss the wording of the article? If personal invites are not accepted or I didn't manage to get enough ppl to discuss. -- Frous (talk) 11:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:3O? WP:(some kind of Noticeboard) or smth? -- Frous (talk) 11:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll put here an invitation and write a section on the election talk page for all the disputes (first sentence, order of the result sections, grammar of the, placing and wording of the gov formation stuff) Ok? -- Frous (talk) 12:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Where can I see, if the article exceeds 100K i.e. I have to summarize and write elsewhere the stuff? -- Frous (talk) 13:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

108K right now? G-sus... Ok. But anyway, what I just want to say, don't just delete all I write if you can put it into smaller size... Leave a message or smth, it pisses off quite a lot to see a 1-hour work gone. :) -- Frous (talk) 13:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, could you please specify your view "not true at all" on the use of the. (That was your reply when I said "the incumbent PM [name]" is incorrect 'cos there's no the if the title is followed by a name, cf. The Queen BUT Queen Elizabeth). If there are some exceptions to that rule I suggested, please, I'd like to learn more, and if you have a source, tell that too. Thanks. :) -- Frous (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I really don't wanna get into edit wars, so could you please give the specific en.wiki sources to justify the italicizations? You put Eduskunta back in italics and you have reverted the tv station names YLE and MTV3 back to YLE and MTV3 with no explicit explanation for several times, that is clearly not a standard procedure... -- Frous (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

If there is any consensus at all for your italicizations, please link me there. -- Frous (talk) 06:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point regarding my major edits, but I seriously doubt if it is necessary to start a discussion on every insanely diminutive change (an election -> the election, 36th or no 36th, MTV3 -> MTV3, etc...). I mean...to start a conversation to get a third opinion on some wording or italicization?? :D Well, I put those up for discussion, knock yourself out...

And, for the millionth time, WHERE is the frigging consensus you keep referring to when you insist on maintaining the wordings or italics? If you don't specifically tell me where those things have been discussed, it will just seem to me that you are so keen on owning the article you don't even allow any minor change (which won't be done, 'cos I believe that 30+ editors give a whole of damn about the content, not some insanities...). WP:NPA, WP:OWN... neither of those very good ways to contribute... -- Frous (talk) 14:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

"Consensus"?[2] Where? By far, you have given NO rationale except for referring to that "consensus". You have the burden of proof if you keep saying "this is the consensus", so please could you just simply do your part in contributing civilly and say where that has been discussed? And please, could you justify that format by writing the rationale on the latest section on the talk page. Thank you. -- Frous (talk) 16:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

So what you were actually about to say is that because the version (that I'd like to edit) was the original, even insanely minor changes (wordings etc.) can be subjected to discussion if any editor wants so? Right? Ok, if this really is the WP policy or guideline, I was unaware, and common sense is gone out of all Wikipedia and IMO it ain't helping getting new editors... Anyway, gotcha. Let's just discuss then. Sorry for bothering you. -- Frous (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for coming back. It would just be nice that you justify all your stances on all those points (e.g., bolding of Eduskunta) I have suggested to be changed, by giving more examples, but of course no hurry, take your time. Otherwise, it is simply unjustified to stop all new edits. Thanks. -- Frous (talk) 21:45, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

G-sus, I'm sorry I forgot this: you reverted this[3] just because of the first sentence? I'm not touching that anymore, but I would like to write the broadcasters' names consistently, into one proposed format that stays there in the interim, so that we then discuss and choose one of them. -- Frous (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

How did I attack this time? I simply said that I think the procedure we stick to (that is, a 3O on nearly every insignificant thing, italics, use of the etc.) is stupid — that's about the article, not about you. Even if I sometimes flavor my reasoning with f-words, the f-words point to the reasoning, not to any editor. Point out the "attack" in this message, please, I can't find it. "In other words, you think that we need a 3O to determine whether we can or can't make up abbreviations? Sorry but that's just waste of time, since no rationale for making up an abbreviation has been given. And about academic papers: so f*ing what?? This is Wikipedia, and it has its own guidelines." -- Frous (talk) 21:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but at least I've noticed people in Wikipedia use for example "WTF" quite a lot when evaluating someone else's edits and rationale behind the edits. I really don't see the problem with it, as long as the wtf and such are directed at the edit and its rationale (= content), not the editor. If you, on the other hand, find that offensive, well fine, I'll leave that word out. -- Frous (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Lihaas, Kindly help to edit the biography article of Anna Hazare.- . Shlok _{talk .} 06:07, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Bahrain sentences 10 activists to life in prison for their role in the uprising (The Guardian) (AlJazeera). This should be ITN, no? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I added the bahraini protests to the ITN but the article needs a bit more updating. As for the Human rights in Egypt under the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, I still gonna need your help when you are free. That part about Ganzeer and Amr El Beheiry needs expanding. I might also start an article about Rasha Azab -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 04:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Perfect. Then you might wonna update the "Incarcerations" & "Timeline" sections in the article. Once you are done with that; we can work on a lil project that I have in mind "Evil Laugh". I will be free in 30 minutes :D -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 05:43, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Hizb-Allah, Saudi and Iran are all full of shit. They are sectarian fucks and honestly have lil to impact on what's happening on the ground in bahrain or Syria. There has been report about hizbullah going to Syria with Iranian soldiers to kill the protesters there.

As for the Israeli spy, it's a joke. We are not buying it. They caught an Iranian spy like a month and sent him home with no further info :S I spy must be the dumbest spy to have ever lived (Posting photos of himself on facebook in Israeli army uniform (The SCAF claim) and photos of himself in Tahrir). Gamal did the shit after the coup in 1954. Dont believe the hype; same goes for 2012 :D

Once the bahrain thing go through ITN, We can work on getting this through GA :) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey girl, How are you? I need your help updating this article. The section needs expanding. I managed to expand the march section. Gonna work on the april and June section later on today but I need your magic touch in May. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

The MB youth are starting to spilt from the MB and some have started their own party while others are joining already established parties. Next election should be very interesting. As far as my stand on Islamists, Im ok with some of them and cant stand most of them due to their double standing, same goes the american foreign policies. Anyways, I need your help completing this article. You gonna have to do it own your own. I will be a bit busy with timeline article and human right one for the next few days. Also could you please place your opinion here? Thanks :D I owe you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I was wondering if you can update the July section with the following info: [4] [5] and [6]. Thanks in advance -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey girl, thanks for your help. I dont think tho its gonna be posted in the ITN again but at least the article is up-to-date kinda :-) I think this will be the last I nominate anything about MENA to be in ITN. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

4th time this year, 2nd in less the a week. HINT HINT :D I doubt that it will make to in ITN section tho even tho nothing has been posted for like 20 hrs -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

They are not Islamists; The bombers are from Sinai Bedouins. The Islamists are the SCAF lil boys now (The only group boycotting the sit-in). Few of the Salafi imams and MB members were bitching about what happened last time. The only political group that support the bombing are the leftists. What really freaks Israel, America and The Gulf is a leftist government. Islamist will do business with Israel and America -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Being on the grounds really gives you a different POV than what u would get through the media. Listen, I need your help with something. The April section is missing some info; you find the some of the missing info here so please let me know if you can help me. It would be fantastic if you can do it in the next 24 hrs. Thanks in advance ;-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. The MENA sticky will be an issue; all the articles gonna need to be updated but get it a try and see what other ppl will say. If it doesnt fly, The Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen and Jordan should be nominated individually. As for the reflinks, as I use this link -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:14, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

All I do when I wonaa use Reflinks is go Here and type the name of the article I wonna use Reflinks on. I told you some ppl would be against the MENA sticky but you have 4 support VS. 2 Oppose so you might get it posted after all :D Hope all is well with you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey there, The Reflinks still needs so tweaking up. I got sometimes similar erroe so I end up doing it over and over until it works. As for the DYK, seeing how I did the Reflinks it will not count. It happened during the DYK for Kamal Abbas so sorry involved editor :S I barely uses facebook anymore, Im on twitter for the most part. If you an account there, let me know :-) I hope we managed to keep the sticky until this friday at least. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Found few images that you might be interested in uploading on commons [7]. Let me know if you are interested -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Ahdaf Suief; Laila Suief; Essam Saadany of Khaled Said's Defence team; Malek Adly; Shahira Abouleil; Ahmed Ragheb; Magda Adly; Essam El Khatib; Aida Seif El Dawla -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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So writing a link named "resistance movement" that subsequently leads to Hezbollah is neutral? I concur that it is not neutral to label them as a terrorist movement. But a resistance movement is an euphemism. How about copying what it says about the Hezbollah on wiki, a militant group and political party? I definitely think the link named resistance movement should be disentangled. We don't even need to mention the paramilitary wing, nor the Syrian-Iranian financing or their resistance to the disarmament agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhoaxt (talk • contribs) 23:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Lihaas,

could you please answer my question on Talk:Thai general election, 2011? Thank you. Kind regards -- RJFF (talk) 18:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok. Sorry, please feel free to revert then. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 11:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

He Lihaas, just saw your second revert of use of the main-template at Foreign relations of South Sudan‎ and made a short question regarding it on the [[talk:Talk:Foreign relations of South Sudan‎]]. Could you explain a bit there why you thought it was not useful+pov? Cheers! L.tak (talk) 18:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. Regarding the GA nom for the Serbian Radical Party (which you have now passed), I took the liberty of making an edit which I hope can be a compromise between the issue we had. While I moved back the section in question to the history section, I instead wrote a more appropriate paragraph of prose in the electoral performance section. Since I am committed to at least try to have good relations with fellow Wikipedians, I would appreciate to hear your opinion on my latest action. Kind regards, – Bellatores (t.) 17:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you please stop removing valid sourced information as you did here from the page Jan Mohammad Khan because in all articles we include personal info about spouse and children. Thanks.--AlimNaz (talk) 21:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi, a user AlimNaz is editing wiki articles in an unorganized and in appropriate manner. Many of his edits are erroneous or awry. For example, recently in the article Jan Muhammad Khan his edits were more or less like a news service. I notified this one the talk page but much is to be desired about the rest of his edits. This is evident from the brawling nature on his talk page. Whatever his intentions, Please advise him. I hope something good comes out of this. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 22:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Lihaas for your trouble, I hope this helps him realize that wiki is for everyone and wiki has guidelines. I hope this serves a better end. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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[16] I had to undo this whole change. You overwrote a heap of previous improvements to the article (including resolving the {{who}} tag.), and this is not even the first time I see you doing this. You should learn how to resolve edit conflicts correctly. --hydrox (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I added an external link to Al Jazeera's youtube channel (currently broadcasting live streaming coverage). There's been some discussion about it on talk, mainly with User:cptnono who wanted/wants to remove it. SilverSeren agreed but I see a reason to keep it as long as we can update it reasonably as the feed changes. Would you add you opinion here?

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Hey there. Yep Id say for the most part the article is now well above GA standard, so you could nom at anytime. FeydHuxtable (talk) 08:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Soz but Im unlikely to have time to do a GA review this week. It may be best just to be patient as reciprocal reviewing could be seen as an attempt to make it more likely that we get a pass. Ive done 10 GA reviews in the past and this is only the 2nd article that Ive been a major editor thats been nomed so our credit should still be good. Yeah there was 2 more maps but I took two of them off per my comment in the Currency War section above about the OECD visulization being a far better source of Geodata. But if you want to add them back thats fine. Whatever you decide. FeydHuxtable (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Could do but it might backfire if one of them sees it as an attempt to be queue jump. The GA backlog still goes back to May.. FeydHuxtable (talk) 07:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like our review has started at last over at Talk:Currency war/GA1 :-) I've maybe done enough to satisfy our reviewer, but would you be able to field any further requests? I might have to be away from wiki for a few days. Any changes you want to make are fine with me. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey, have a few hours to spare so I'll have another go at it unless youre already working on it. Am thinking of moving most of the current outbreak to its own article as you and our reveiwer suggested , then I'll have a final copy edit before making a request to the guild. FeydHuxtable (talk) 15:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could give you opinion on the picture nomination to be a featured picture. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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I don't see it listed... hmm. I'll be glad to review tho :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I have seen the discussion and have moved it to this title. There is no need for a separate debate on the title of the template if there was consensus to move the related article. Cheers, Number 57 20:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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I saw that you volunteered to peer review/copyedit articles? It would be nice if you could review Djungarian hamster. Thanks! Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 12:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

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Dear Lihaas,

I was heartened by your personal advice on my talk page, particularly your voiced concern that I should write more prudently, and also by your repeated words at the cursed ANI.

Given your advice to me, you must be greatly troubled to be writing so much at ITN, I think. Of course, the loss of life is tragic at any time of year, but more on our minds during Ramadan. It is selfish of me to wish, but I do wish that nobody close to you has been harmed directly by these wars.

I do wish that Obama will negotiate a peace treaty and end the Afghanistan war as soon as possible. A political solution should be found in Afghanistan as in other military stalemates, in which each side's methods and conduct threaten to injure the souls of its own men and women, and in which more civilians are killed every day.

Of course, this block is a trifle, which may allow you some well-earned rest and relaxation. I am concerned about you, but I am confident that your fortitude and integrity, which have carried you through many campaigns of writing and sustained you through many attacks, shall help you during what must be a trying time.

Sincerely and fraternally,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 05:50, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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WP:FUN doesn't cover opinions that dead soldiers somehow deserved to die. Keep that shit to yourself. Swarm ^{u | t}

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Hi, perhaps you could help by merging the other article on the attacks into the 2011 Eilat attacks article. As the 2011 Eilat attacks article is much more detailed. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

You were wrong to undo my edit. The 2011 southern Israel attacks were against Israeli civilians in the sense that the fire and rockets that were fired - were fired on civilians vehicle only. The soldier that dies was off-duty, on vecation, and riding a public bus. קולנואני (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks for the barnstar, its much appreaciated!

Short answer – promoting an article to FA isn't easy at the best of times, and Ive a feeling this might be a very challenging topic, is it really worth the time and energy?

Long answer – As I said before Im expecting to only be editing occasionally for about a year so you might need to take a more active role if its to get to FA level. I used to hang round at FA for a bit when I was new to Wikipedia as I used to have aspirations of getting Keynes onto the front page. The standard is very high and its unpredictable what reviewers will ask for. Its maybe possible to write about 10 useful close to GA class articles for the same effort needed for one FA. On the positive side, when I was expanding it I had FA criteria in mind and hopefully in most ways its not too far off. For FA standard it maybe should include a more accademic treatment of the topic. So the first step could be to add an analyses section that talks about the effects of a competitive devaluation in a more formal way. Im thinking of an equation or two showing how GDP and employment can be boosted in terms of the IS-LM-BOP model.

It's a bonus that editor KTLynch has an economics degree and was very positive about the article especially the research. But for FA we'd likely need more evidence of approval from the experts . So probably we ought to ask for a formal or informal peer review with a message to the economics project. They may also have suggestions to improve it. If we get approval from WP:ECON (which will need a bit of luck, some of the edtitors there are first class, but there seemned to be a few with "interesting" POVs the last time I looked) then its just a question of presentation, maybe creating a couple of suitable quantitative graphics, and quality of prose. We could probably find someone to help with prose quality, but should definitely try to get the thumps up from the econ guys first. FeydHuxtable (talk) 17:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Lihaas , for the interest in Adopt-an-article. Can you please help with new ideas to promote Adopt-an-article event ? --naveenpf (talk) 02:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

It depends who you ask, Sunni Islamists fully support the "Sunni Monarchy" for sectarian reasons while Shia Islamists fully support the "Shia Protesters" for sectarian reasons. On the other hand, The secular youth (like myself) support the protesters as "freedom fighters" (4 lack of a better term). The opposite applies to Syria when it comes to the Islamists of course for the same sectarian reasons, while the secular youth believe that the protesters there are freedom fighters as well. I told you Islamists are fucked in the head before.

As for User: Arabbi, dude seems to go away for a long period of time and then come back so I wont freak out just yet. Anyway, How are you? still raising hell I hope. Let me know if you need anything else :-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 05:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I recently created an article on the Kidnapping of Warren Weinstein. If you are familiar with the topic, I invite you to add information. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 03:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand what you did here. You seem like a very experienced wikipedian. Surely you must know that sources are not required in lead if the same info is cited elsewhere in the article. Also, you can't just take away the GA rating like that. There is a process. What's up? BollyJeff || talk 00:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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I was wondering you would be interested in writing about this article? He is a 14 year old boy that died last night during the Bahrain protests. Here is a picture of his corpse. Thought you would be interested seeing how you have been covering the Bahraini protest for a while now. I think Bahrain just had their Khaled Said moment. Hope he didnt die in vain -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi - you tagged this article as having POV issues just over a week ago, but you didn't say anything on the talkpage, and put an enigmatic "who were the defending lawyers" comment in the tag. What is actually the problem?VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

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Hey girl, glad you are ok. was kinda worried cuz I didnt her from you for awhile. Anyways, How soon do you need it? Cuz I have burned 2 fingers (right hand, long story) so I cant type nor use the mouse like a normal person for few days. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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Of course I know about the unions, My friend Hossam el-Hamalawy helped start most of them :D I wonna add it somewhere but I have no idea where tho so let me know if you think of a place.

The Gas line bombing is the 5th so far. It's done by bedouins. The Islamists in Egypt are nothing more than a toy in the hand of the SCAF. They even came against the bombing, the israeli embassy thing, and for Camp David. Islamists have being using Israel as a talking point, but when comes to action, they are not gonna take any. All they care about is the Egyptian parliamentary election. The idea the Islamists will goto war with Israel if they take power is only a western/israeli nightmare but in reality, they are only concern with forcing Sharia law onto society. google "إسلامية إسلامية", that's their answer to every question eve asked.

The 4th place could go to any country (Yemen although Saudi did send tanks their to support Saleh like they did in Bahrain, Bahrain but they do have to deal with the Saudi occupation, Syria but the regime there is really brutal as bad as Qaddafi so the NATO/UN might get involved)

The bahrain article needs updating, I think Bahraini Activist is looking for someone to show him the robs and he wants to right about what's happening there so I thought you could help him and he helps us by keeping the article up-to-date . I got more Egyptian activists to draw/talk/blog about Bahrain by the way like Ahmad Nady.

BTW, This word spring is more about the event then the time. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Orlady (talk) 12:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I implore you to stop tagging articles with things like "more citations needed", "citation needed" and "why?". Many of the articles you tag with the first have an adequate number of references. Some of the things you tag as "citation needed" are things that are so obvious that it doesn't need citing - e.g. this edit. If it bothers you that much, reference it yourself, otherwise you are making pointless work for other people. It took me less than 30 seconds to find and add a reference for that obvious fact. Number 57 09:50, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I see that despite my request, you are still tagging material that you can easily reference - e.g. the election results date here. Again, it took me about 30 seconds to provide a reference. I really don't understand why you cannot do this for yourself? Number 57 09:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Lihaas,

Since you are more experienced than me in Wikipedia, can you review those articles which were created or greatly expanded by me?

• Nabeel Rajab
• Maryam Alkhawaja
• Abdulhadi Alkhawaja
• Mohammed Albuflasa
• Ayat Al-Qurmezi

Take your time, thanks. Bahraini Activist (talk) 06:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

It rather made up really :D The Feb17 Mililta is the strongest and the most secular among the rebels so TLC cant go against their wishes. Libya will be a civil state (American style secularism) so those news are made to scare the west really.

And Libya will stay united. I was there and I know what Im talking about, Dont believe the Hype. Yemen is a bit different, we could have the north/south thing again but I highly doubt it due the nature of the uprising. Wish you could be here to see things more clearly from the ground :- ) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Please explain this edit and this edit. OCNative (talk) 10:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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Uh, could you come back on my talk page and restate what you said? I'm having trouble understanding what you wrote. OCNative (talk) 10:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Lihaas. I noticed that you are listed in Category:User ur-3 and can contribute with an advanced level of Urdu. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caiyad Phahad, there is a dispute about whether the sources from the Daily Jang are sufficient to establish notability. I argue that they constitute routine coverage and suspect the sources are announcements, possibly submitted to the newspaper by the subject or his family members. Would you take a look at the sources and comment about (i) whether they are announcements or news coverage and (ii) whether they establish notability per Wikipedia:Notability? Thank you for any help you can provide. Best, Cunard (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Lihaas, good catch on the name!!! I was able to find few cites to verify the "also known as". Can you give me a bit more info on the disputed templates you put down? I would like to verify some of this. Problem is this breaking news and the editing is on the fly. The first draft I came across had a lot of info that needed shortened. I really appreciate the extra set of eyes. Thanks Crtew (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, and I like your work here too! Why were the numbers of the references coming out incorrectly or out of order on their reuse? The other point is that you're suggesting not to use Lexis-Nexis but the Web archives? Thanks for the interaction because I was understanding the discuss notes about references on the discussion page Crtew (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Ahha! So that's what those a,b,c's are for. I was wondering about that but didn't know for sure. Thanks for the wiki culture tips, too, and the interaction which has been informative. I appreciate this as I get used to the editing process. Crtew (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, from the | Oman Daily Observer article. I'll try to do the ref name now.Crtew (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

That same article is used to source her father's name and so her full name is also verified per Arab naming custom! Would that be enough to remove the dispute?Crtew (talk) 21:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

What do you think about the notability being buried? See the talk page on Karman. Crtew (talk) 22:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Lihaas, it was a privilege working with you today on improving and bringing Tawakel Karman's entry up to par! Thank you for giving me tips along the way and being patient with a newbie. I don't know about you, but I don't think her entry rates as a "C" anymore in assessment. We raised that bar higher today while 20k+ were visiting! Rest well my friend tomorrow is another day!!! Best, Crtew Crtew (talk) 05:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Lihass, I'm trying to figure out some of the changes you made to my last edits. Could you help me out with the explanation? I'm ok with some of the changes, like the Freedom or Change Square being almost interchangeable in references. Two in particular though interest me: 1) the context behind what was going on between the start of Arab Spring and the time when she won the Nobel in terms of protests and dangers to the press. 2) The other being the transition sentence in the lead that shows her broadening out her issues of interest before Arab Spring. I think readers would want to know some of this or it's needed to complete the idea and not give a false picture. What do you think? What about adding a map of Yemen? Two other cities have seen more anti-government activity than the Sana'a.Crtew (talk) 16:34, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Lihaas!

Please see my talk page. Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, FYI EFSF stands for European Financial Stability Facility, not European Financial Stability Fund as you moved it to. It just so happens there are a lot of lazy and ill informed journalists out there who can't tell the difference between the various structures and acronyms. In future, please check the official websites before moving pages. Thanks.- _J.Logan`^t: 08:05, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

While I agree that the article should not contain a list of miscellaneous data, the heading still reads "Death and legacy", but only lists his date of death now. When we remove the "and legacy" from the headline the article suggests that there is no legacy of Frank Stanton. I'd at least keep the "Stanton Foundation" part. -- 194.246.123.103 (talk) 11:26, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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