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Carangiformes?

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Hi kevin, according to the taxonomy list in wikipedia, all the species in Billfish are classified as carangiformes but when you go to article about carangiformes you dont find the billfishes in that section and also all the sources i found so far don't list billfishes as a part of carangiformes, I came to you as I know you are a knowledgeable person in this field, and also I believe you know better than i do, so please do help. Once again if im wrong please to correct me, I would be happy to learn. Codonified (talk) 23:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209235200","author":"Codonified","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Codonified-20241209235200-Carangiformes?","replies":["c-Kevmin-20241210173700-Codonified-20241209235200"]}}-->

Codonified I wouldnt say I'm an expert, but the issue you are running into is pretty simple. The Carangiformes and "Billfish" articles are following two differing classifications. Carangiformes is still using Fishes of the world 5th ed (2016) which is noted to be conservative in aproach due to being completed posthumously after the author passed. "Billfish" is following the more recent Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes Classification (see here) with adjustments for the broader definition found in paleontology liturature. What should happen is Carangiformes being updated to follow Eschmeyers expanded phylogeny of the order. With regards to your searching, remember you will have the most luck searching for the family or suborder names rather than the colloquial "billfish" which is not a regulated term and will not appear often in taxonomy literature. --Kev min § 17:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210173700","author":"Kevmin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kevmin-20241210173700-Codonified-20241209235200","replies":["c-Codonified-20241210213200-Kevmin-20241210173700"],"displayName":"Kev"}}-->

thanks bro

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A barnstar for you!

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DYK for Austrosphecodes krampus

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DYK for Antiquiala

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