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Earth Day 2022 Edit-a-thon - April 22nd - 2PM EST

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You're invited! NYC Earth Day 2022 Edit-a-thon! April 22nd!

Sure We Can and the Environment of New York City Task Force invite you to join us for:

This Edit-a-Thon is part of a larger Earth Day celebration, hosted by Brooklyn based recycling and community center Sure We Can, that runs from 1PM-7PM and is open to the public! See this flyer for more information: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGr4FyuqEa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

-- Environment of New York City Task Force

How adverse is DYK...

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October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003120400","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120400-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Today is the birthday of Tabea Zimmermann, and you can listen to the exact concert I mentioned last year ;) - I'm fascinated by Rohan de Saram. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008213000","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241008213000-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:31, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012183100","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241012183100-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016135500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016135500-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

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WCNA 2024

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Received. Thanks. -- Rosiestep (talk) 16:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007162000","author":"Rosiestep","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rosiestep-20241007162000-WCNA_2024","replies":[]}}-->

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Tech News: 2024-41

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Oct 26: Wikidata Day NYC

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Re:Template:Did you know nominations/Nan Nan Resources

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Hi, thank you for reviewing the DYK.

Earwig report says Violation unlikely, 25% similarity. Is there a specific threshhold I should be trying to get under? Also wouldn't a US published document be public domain and therefore copyright-unviolatable?

I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative here, I just want to better understand how this works.

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No problem, and thanks for the query. I think of the percentage number Earwig gives you as just a vague hint. In some ways I wish it didn't give that number because it makes it too easy to focus on. What I typically do is look for the red-highlighted parts and if I see a couple in a row, I look at the original to see how the unhighlighted parts in between match. Often, it all just sort of runs together. In general, if you can look at a passage and say, "Yeah, that came from this paragraph in the source, and they just changed a few words around", that's close paraphrasing.
The passage that stuck out to me was

In January and March 2008, Ascent Goal Investments Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of China Sonangol International Limited, purchased a total 74% ownership stake in Artfield. Ascent named three new executive directors to Artfield: Lo Fong Hung and her husband Wang Xiangfei, and Kwan Man Fai

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In January 2008, Ascent Goal Investments Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of China Sonangol International Limited, agreed to buy 56.7 percent of Artfield.105 By March 2008, Ascent had acquired 74.42 percent of Artfield’s shares and had named three new executive directors to the company-- Lo Fong Hung, Wang Xiangfei, and Kwan Man Fai

As these things go, this isn't terrible (and for sure, some of it is the names of companies and people which are always going to be unchanged), but it could be better. Let me suggest:

Artfield was taken over in early 2008 by Ascent Goal Investments Limited. By March, Ascent (a subsidiary of China Sonagol International) had purchased 74% of Artfield and installed three new executive directors. Lo Fong Hung was named chairperson and managing director. Lo's husband, Wang Xaigfei and Kwan Man Fai were also named to the board.

As I write that, I realize it's really not terribly different from what you had, so maybe I was just being overly picky, but I think it's a little better. RoySmith (talk) 20:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014203500","author":"RoySmith","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RoySmith-20241014203500-DarthCloakedGuy-20241014192000","replies":["c-DarthCloakedGuy-20241016105600-RoySmith-20241014203500"]}}-->
Either way it flows way better. I have a tendency to try to cram too much information into too few sentences, and this resolves that. Do you mind if I just copy this straight in?
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Please do. RoySmith-Mobile (talk) 13:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016133300","author":"RoySmith-Mobile","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-RoySmith-Mobile-20241016133300-DarthCloakedGuy-20241016105600","replies":["c-DarthCloakedGuy-20241016170000-RoySmith-Mobile-20241016133300"]}}-->
Okay. Pretty much the only things the copyvio detector thingie are picking up now are names, which I think means everything is aboveboard now. Care to reassess? Please and thank you.
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Roy,

Regarding this discussion, I have been able to get to my DSLR raw files of that image and uploaded one of them (rare for me, I actually overwrote the original because a) it was undeniably subpar and b) I really didn't feel like copying over the entire info text).

What do you think now? I have pretty much done all the work I felt necessary on the article and will be nominating it at FAC soon. Daniel Case (talk) 18:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019182700","author":"Daniel Case","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daniel_Case-20241019182700-The_third-rail_tip_pic_revisited","replies":["c-RoySmith-20241019201500-Daniel_Case-20241019182700"]}}-->

That one really shows what it's like. Excellent! RoySmith (talk) 20:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019201500","author":"RoySmith","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RoySmith-20241019201500-Daniel_Case-20241019182700","replies":[]}}-->