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Lab session today at 9:15 Aliciaag93 (talk) 09:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:12:00.000Z","author":"Aliciaag93","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T09:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Danielle, Who are you working with? I am working with Alicia and Irina, we can see how many people we are allowed in a group :D Natalie Brocklesby (talk) 7th March 2014 (UTC)

Sure! I'm definitely working with Tom Firth, hopefully Darren will be okay with 5 in a group DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 14:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T14:42:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
That sounds good hopefully he will allow 5, which theory are you thinking of doing, i thought of doing Expectancy violations theory because its on the exam Natalie Brocklesby (talk) 7th March 2014 (UTC)




So we are working together on this, see my talk page for details.

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Hi Tom Firth, would you like to work together for the group presentation? DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 13:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T13:53:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T13:53:00.000Z-Psychology_of_Internet_Behaviour","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:07:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T13:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

awesome :) I'm free tomorrow afternoon if you want to meet and make a start on research? 2pm in the library okay for you? Let me know DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 14:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T14:07:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:07:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T13:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-TomFirth19-2014-03-07T14:13:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yeah, ok can do that TomFirth19 (talk) 14:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T14:13:00.000Z","author":"TomFirth19","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TomFirth19-2014-03-07T14:13:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:20:00.000Z-TomFirth19-2014-03-07T14:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
Brilliant. Have you looked over the choice of topics? I'm not particularly fussed about improving the 'People' pages, I'd prefer to look at one of the theories in a bit more depth. I've had a read through the Elaboration likelihood model and Uncertainty reduction theory pages, and both are in need of improvements. The first contains a lot of information but the majority (if not all) lacks citation. The latter, whilst informative and well-cited, needs reorganising to ensure it is clear and concise. Do you have a preference on which we work on? I don't mind either :) DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 14:20, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T14:20:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-07T14:20:00.000Z-TomFirth19-2014-03-07T14:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Social Penetration Theory

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Yes, that's what i'm thinking to do. Rosiesievers20 (talk) 14:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-07T14:44:00.000Z","author":"Rosiesievers20","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-07T14:44:00.000Z-Social_Penetration_Theory","replies":["c-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-11T11:57:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-07T14:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Who else is working with you in your group? --Rosiesievers20 (talk) 11:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-11T11:57:00.000Z","author":"Rosiesievers20","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-11T11:57:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-07T14:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-12T21:28:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-11T11:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi Rosie,
Sorry I'm only just getting back to you, I didn't see your message the last time I logged in :( I'm working with Nat, Tom, Irina and Alicia on the Expectancy Violations theory. How are you getting on with your work? DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T21:28:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-12T21:28:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-11T11:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-12T21:53:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-12T21:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
Still trying to get in a group, which is a bit annoying. I tried to ask nick and eugene but i hadn't had any replies yet. --Rosiesievers20 (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T21:53:00.000Z","author":"Rosiesievers20","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-12T21:53:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-12T21:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-13T09:39:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-12T21:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
you're better off asking in person - I suspect not everyone will be checking on here as often as they probably should. The other thing is groups have to be 5 max. from what I gather. Your best bet is to check the Course page and see which subject areas need more people? DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 09:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T09:39:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-13T09:39:00.000Z-Rosiesievers20-2014-03-12T21:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kaolincash-2014-03-13T22:56:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-13T09:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yo, I'd be happy to join a group with you, Rosie. (I'm Sam, the guy who sat a couple seats over from you in the first lecture, you introduced yourself then). I've decided to do Social Penetration theory too, and having looked at the other people doing this and trying to figure out who's in a group or not, it seems like it'd be a good idea to team up with you! Kaolincash (talk) 22:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T22:56:00.000Z","author":"Kaolincash","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kaolincash-2014-03-13T22:56:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-13T09:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Outcome from the first meeting

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Hi guys, here's a breakdown of the expectancy violations theory sections and the person responsible for each bit:

Tom: History, Core Concepts of expectancy violations theory

Danielle: Theoretical viewpoints and assumptions, Metatheoretical assumptions

Irina: Common expectancy violations in nonverbal communications, Proxemics and kinesics of expectancy violations theory

Alicia: Common expectancy violations in close relationships, The theory in new media age

Nat: Related theories, Criticism of the theory, Further use and development of the theory

I hope you don't mind me giving you an extra one Nat, the other guys have got a bit more content in their sections that's all. Please don't hate me 0:)

This sounds good to me, we can meet up next week to do the work, plus I will do a Diagram for Proxemics Natbrock (talk) 16:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Natbrock","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Natbrock-2014-03-13T16:44:00.000Z-Outcome_from_the_first_meeting","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-14T09:22:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-13T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Brilliant! I heard Rob from another group has also decided to do your section of Expectancy Violations theory...? We should definitely speak to Darren about it because it could create conflict on the article page DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 09:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:22:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-14T09:22:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-13T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T09:28:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-14T09:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'll help nat with the diagram and we will have it ready for the next meeting we will have, nat reading through how to put images onto the wiki page. -- Aliciaag93 (talk) 09:28, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:28:00.000Z","author":"Aliciaag93","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T09:28:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-14T09:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:29:00.000Z-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T09:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
Nat you said you want to work on the diagram, which is a section which has been assigned to me. Which sections are we swapping? Irina Predescu (talk) 09:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:29:00.000Z","author":"Irina predescu","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:29:00.000Z-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T09:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:34:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Heya Irina can I do Proxemics and kinesics of expectancy violations theory? Either Criticism of the theory, Further use and development of the theory? its up to you?Natbrock (talk) 09:34, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:34:00.000Z","author":"Natbrock","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:34:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:47:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:34:00.000Z"]}}-->
Okay Nat, you will do Proxemics and kinesics of expectancy violations theory and I will do Criticism of the theory Irina Predescu (talk) 09:47, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Irina predescu","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:47:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:48:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
That sounds good to me thankyou :D Natbrock (talk) 09:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:48:00.000Z","author":"Natbrock","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:48:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:51:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
No worries :D Irina Predescu (talk) 09:51, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T09:51:00.000Z","author":"Irina predescu","type":"comment","level":17,"id":"c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:51:00.000Z-Natbrock-2014-03-14T09:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T11:29:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:51:00.000Z"]}}-->
hey guys, just to let you all know I did some editing on one of my sections on the live wiki page to see what would happen. Nat and I have also started with the information about proxemics and what type of diagram we are going to do. :D :D :D -- Aliciaag93 (talk) 11:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-14T11:29:00.000Z","author":"Aliciaag93","type":"comment","level":19,"id":"c-Aliciaag93-2014-03-14T11:29:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-14T09:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

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Group Presentations

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I've just been informed that the presentations have to be individual, is this correct Toni/ Darren? The handbook says that a group presentation makes up 50% of the module mark, working in groups of 4-5. Can someone clarify which information is accurate as our group has already made a presentation (as is probably the case with the other groups). Thanks, DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 14:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-20T14:52:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-20T14:52:00.000Z-Group_Presentations","replies":["c-ToniSant-2014-03-21T12:52:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-20T14:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Danielle - firstly, it's not a good idea to start this conversation on your own talk page if it's a question for me and/or Darren (@Illuminatusds:). My talk page or his is a better place for this conversation. I saw you used the talk back function, which is good, but the banner for that needs to be placed at the bottom of the user's talk page not at the top; I missed it when I first went looking for it as this is not the conventional place to put it. No harm done, it's just that these are basic conventions with Wikipedia and it's good that you get a good understanding of such things to ensure that you're able to get the help that you need, when you need it, without any unnecessary delay.
Now, on to your question: as per the course page - "Each student will present for up to 5 minutes with 2 minutes for questions from the markers, if required. Presentations should not be shorter than 3 minutes." So, you will present individually (as you'll be marked individually) but in sequence as a group (as it's a presentation about a group project). I hope this answers your question. Don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page, if you need to ask me more about this, or since the conversation has been started her, you can leave a talk back banner at the bottom of my page leading me here. --ToniSant (talk) 12:52, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-21T12:52:00.000Z","author":"ToniSant","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ToniSant-2014-03-21T12:52:00.000Z-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-20T14:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi everyone, I transcribed the video "Expectancy Violation Theory Cody Drive" on my Sandbox page. It has general information about the Expectancy violations theory, so I thought you might find it useful! Irina Predescu (talk) 13:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-21T13:25:00.000Z","author":"Irina predescu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irina_predescu-2014-03-21T13:25:00.000Z-Group_Presentations","replies":["c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-24T12:33:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-21T13:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's brilliant Irina, thank you! How're you getting on with the presentation? Are you ready for tomorrow ? :) DanielleForrester1991 (talk) 12:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-24T12:33:00.000Z","author":"DanielleForrester1991","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DanielleForrester1991-2014-03-24T12:33:00.000Z-Irina_predescu-2014-03-21T13:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Gas balloon race Coupe Aéronautique Gordon BennettSportGas ballooningEnglish nameGordon Bennett CupHistoryFirst awardSeptember 30, 1906Editions62First winnerFrank Purdy LahmMost winsVincent Leys (nine)Most recentLaurent Sciboz, Nicolas Tieche (2019) The Gordon Bennett Cup (or Coupe Aéronautique Gordon Bennett) is the world's oldest gas balloon race, and is regarded as the premier event of world balloon racing according to the Los Angeles Times.[1][2] Referred to as the Blue ...

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Species of deciduous tree native to North America Populus grandidentata Conservation status Least Concern (IUCN 3.1)[1] Scientific classification Kingdom: Plantae Clade: Tracheophytes Clade: Angiosperms Clade: Eudicots Clade: Rosids Order: Malpighiales Family: Salicaceae Genus: Populus Section: Populus sect. Populus Species: P. grandidentata Binomial name Populus grandidentataMichaux Natural range Populus grandidentata, commonly called large-tooth aspen, big-tooth aspen, Ame...

Questa voce sull'argomento pallanuotisti cinesi è solo un abbozzo. Contribuisci a migliorarla secondo le convenzioni di Wikipedia. Huang Ying Nazionalità  Cina Pallanuoto 1 I due numeri indicano le presenze e le reti segnate, per le sole partite di campionato.Il simbolo → indica un trasferimento in prestito.   Modifica dati su Wikidata · Manuale Huang Ying (14 febbraio 1957) è un pallanuotista cinese, che ha partecipato alle Olimpiadi estive di Los Angeles 1984[1...

Each of the 10 teams of Minor League Baseball's Pacific Coast League carry a 28-man active roster.[1] Only these players are eligible to play. Teams may have any number of inactive players on their rosters at a given time who do not count toward active roster limits. Injured players may be placed on the injured list (7-day or 60-day).[2] The temporary inactive list and bereavement list are for players attending to personal matters.[2] Major league players may be placed...