User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2008/August

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why do the edit summaries when reverting have the word "reverting" other than "reverted" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by C1U3807 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Is it necessary to add obscenes from all languages? _Vi (talk) 05:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for developing this bot. I don't understand the programming but I appreciate the activity of the robots. Your bot fixed vandalism on one of my favorite pages (Auguste Piccard). That is quite a pile of trashy words that your trusty bot wades through continuously.Electricmic (talk) 01:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Please would you add "gobshite". MilkFloat 11:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Why should the edit summary have 'reverting' rather than 'reverted'? C1U3807 (talk) 16:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I was just explaining that the first paragraph of the hydrogen section of the hindenburg page is only a valid argument if the lightning, sabotage, and static electricity ignition theories are all wrong! If you don't like my wording change it, correct it, improve it, but don't just undo it!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.212.234.172 (talk) 07:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Remember, ClueBot is a bot (i.e. not human). I checked your edit and it appears you typed at least 1 word in ALL CAPS with the addition of 3 exclamation points (!!!) at the end. When ClueBot (a counter-vandalism bot) had seen this, it thinks that it is vandalism (i.e. similar to someone typing "WAY COOL!!!" in some random place in the article). Anyway... I suggest taking a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters), which states that all capitals should not be used for emphasis. I also suggest Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting) for information regarding emphasis and when to use it. Hope that helps. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 06:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I added a section that said WOW on talk page. I just wanted to know my IP address. It was not vandalism.--96.232.57.29 (talk) 01:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that you use the sandbox in the near future. Or you could just go to Special:Mytalk (which will redirect you to your talk page) and take a look at the numbers that follow "User talk:". Make sure that you are not logged in first. Hope that helps. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 05:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I was just surfing through the history of the False Positives archives for User:ClueBot. It seems that here, at approximately 8:42 PM (Pacific Time Zone), ClueBot III deleted tons of reports! How did this happen? Was it fixed? Just wondering, SchfiftyThree 19:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

query.php error. They happen about once in a million and are hard to work around. Query.php will occasionally return a blank page instead of the correct data. Because of the nature of ClueBot III, it sometimes has to post to a blank page, I can't just program around it. When this happens, though, ClueBot III sees a blank page and thinks it is starting a new archive page. It adds the {{Talkarchive}} header and the new data being archived, which happens to overwrite the old archive. -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 20:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that one of ClueBot's reasons for reverting contains a typo. Since these warnings are left on so many pages and ClueBot should be setting a good example, typos should be fixed.

It says: "redirecting article to non-existant page".

That non-existant should be nonexistent.  MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM  22:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I blanked that page cos i put it on receurring and minor article instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.121.244 (talk) 09:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey umm you filed a vandalisim charge against me for my edit on rock it from gorrillaz. Well i was looking on a video when i saw noodlez on 2-d's back, and he made a quote with his mouth that sounded lhe words i typed in the passage. This was a big misunderstanding and i am sorry if i offended anyone.Lucas8k (talk) 19:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

What the...? Old bug I assume? —Wknight94 (talk) 11:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

[1] - is there a valid reason for the removal of the other two archived sections? Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 04:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Erm - probably a query.php error. Let me know if it happens again, though. -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 04:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I suppose this would also be a query.php error? Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

It also seems a little confused at User:ClueBot III/Indices/User talk:HighKing (see history). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised to find that I'm actually annoyed with how fast you revert edits and warn users. Darn it Cobi, can't you like give it some kind of delay so that at least the human vandal fighters can have a chance?Vandalism destroyer (talk) 06:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

You know, I've actually thought that sometimes, too. I have beaten ClueBot lots of times yesterday at page blankings, minor changes with obscenities, etc. I've done all that with Huggle, a software that fights vandalism really good. Who knows? Someday, you'll get to use software to fight vandalism. SchfiftyThree 15:30, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

How is this "possible vandalism"? It looks like ClueBot reverted a good faith edit. SchfiftyThree 16:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

User removed over 9000 characters, which would set off the massremove heuristic (limit is, I think, somewhere between 5000 and 10000). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 20:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The limit on ClueBot's source page and on the paper Cobi written about it is 7,500 characters. But how would ClueBot even know if it's vandalism or not? I'm guessing this page would explain. Did you even read the paper Cobi had written about ClueBot? SchfiftyThree 20:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I did, but I wasn't exactly sure whether it was up-to-date, and I didn't look through the source. As stated in the paper, if the user has less than 50 edits, the edit removes 7,500 edits or more, and the score is -50 or more, the edit will be reverted. The dataset is for the new ClueBot, one based on a artificial neural network rather than heuristics (the latter is subject to more false positives like the one mentioned here). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 21:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

One of the checkusers noted that ClueBotIV is using a significantly old version of nmap; she is using v4.6.8, while ClueBotIV is using v4.1.1. Apparently this caused the bot to miss a detection of an open proxy. GRBerry 18:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I'll see about upgrading, but not a lot has changed in NMap since v4.1.1. That is certainly not the reason for it not detecting an open proxy. The main problem tends to be routers/firewalls/computers which don't want to handle the large influx of TCP SYN packets, and start dropping them. ClueBot IV scans very quickly so sometimes the packets will get dropped and that will sometimes lead to inaccurate results. -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 19:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't make that edit on England national rugby union team, I didn't even realise that England has rugby union until that message, please send an apology to the talk page of Series Premiere (remake) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.76.87 (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

The message was sent to your talk page, but you are using a dynamically assigned IP address. The message itself is dated 11:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC), which means that someone using your IP address on that day was subject to the Bot's actions. This is unlikely to have been you and you can safely ignore this message. To avoid such misunderstandings in the future, you might want to consider creating a unique account. Hope that helps. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 03:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

This was another weird ClueBot revert. The heuristic set was "redirecting article to non-existent page." I don't even see #REDIRECT in the brackets. So, I wouldn't call that redirecting it to a redlinked article. I also wonder why Cobi chose this heuristic. SchfiftyThree 17:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

ClueBot is still having some problems on the Coca-Cola article. What I mentioned above also happened here. This user did not redirect the article to a non-existent page, and it is very much not vandalism. SchfiftyThree 21:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

ClueBot saw the junk at the end of the article (which I just now removed). -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 22:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Phew. Well, that settles the dilemma. ;-) SchfiftyThree 22:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello!! Please Help me that some of the STAR TV Indian channel like STAR Utsav, STAR Plus, STAR One, STAR Gold, STAR News, STAR World, STAR Vijay and among others using the chinese Traditional/simplified text vandilized with user 122.54.246.141. Please help to block this user. The said vandalized STAR TV Indian Article is already in the record in the previous articles. About the STAR News you reverse already with the chinese Traditional/simplified text but it revert it again. Im sorry but please block the real one. my apology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.168.43 (talk) 08:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Normally, ClueBot II clears redlinks from WP:SCV on a pretty regular basis, usually within 5-10 minutes of one occuring. However, for some reason the bot hasn't hit the page since 00:40 CST and we've been having to remove redlinks manually. I checked the page code and I can't see anything in it that may have accidentally been changed to stop the bot from being able to hit it. Can someone check it to see why its not working anymore? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Tile join has been harassing Northwich Victoria F.C. for years. Would it be possible to have ClueBot revert his socks every time they remove the template {{Northwich Victoria F.C. players}}? The idea is to move the vandalized content to a fully-protected template and then any time the template is removed from the page, it would be reverted. Sound feasible / reasonable? --MZMcBride (talk) 16:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Yet another one (ugh!) happened about 10 minutes ago. On this revert, a registered user made a link to Patrick E. Haggerty, with ClueBot's "Grawp?" heuristic set off. Can this be changed so that the Hagger word in the heuristic be in capital letters only? Most of Grawp's page moves and featured article content replacements have "HAGGER??" in upper-case letters. I reverted ClueBot's edit with Twinkle, explaining that the link to the article was a good faith edit, and that the revert must have come from the edit summary: m Starrymessenger (talk · contribs) (Linked Patrick E. Haggerty). SchfiftyThree 05:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I had just created the stub article on Patrick E. Haggerty which links to Texas Instruments (link seems OK), Cecil Green (link was removed ClueBot and restored by Schfifty (thanks)), and Pat Haggerty (disambiguation) (link removed by ClueBot and restored by Schfifty (thanks)) Starrymessenger (talk) 06:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 Fixed - actually, it has been fixed for a few days now :) -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 04:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#External link searching issues. — Dispenser 14:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

• How about having CLueBot auto-revert copies of Grawp socks' goatse template? They copy it, so it never changes, and ClueBot could stop it pretty easily. Bart133 ^{t c @ How's my driving?} 15:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I've changed its style to a better one, [2] is her official website.

I Also removed few POV Statements

The other awards was removed to a formal awards

The image was removed and I Uploaded a better one

Some null sources were also removed and made it a formal as Encyclopedia must have.Loverboyz (talk) 08:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I have seen someone get around Cluebot by vandalizing a page, logging out, and blanking the page. Since someone sees Cluebot revert the page blank, they don´t touch the article. Screwdriver was a good example, as blatant vandalism stayed on the page for 12 hours before it was reverted. Is there any way to counter this? Also, could whoever answers this e-mail me instead of posting here? Thank you for your time. --Freiberg, Let's talk!, contribs 21:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

When reporting a false positive using the "click here" at User:ClueBot/FalsePositives, it seems that this creates an additonal backslash in front of any single quote, see e.g. my report or this one in the "what happened" section. Not a big problem, but nevertheless... --Cyfal (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, administrator dudes? I dare one of you to click the button. No, I TRIPLE-DOG dare you. Click it. --Kermit4Prez (talk) 20:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The edit reverted with this code: 470221 is not vandalism, it was adding a {{db-a7}} tag and a {{peacock}} tag to a new article which suffered from non-notability and peacock terms. I do not believe that this is an accidental false positive; I believe that ClueBot has been programmed to treat all IP edits, even demonstrably constructive ones, as vandalism. Therefore ClueBot is a rogue bot and must be shut down immediately and permanently, and its creator permanently banned from this project. 206.116.63.240 (talk) 02:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure if ClueBot should be shut down permanently, plus its owner is a very well-respected bot developer. Bots only get blocked indefinitely if they are having major malfunctions. There has been a project going on for a newer ClueBot, that will recognise what vandalism actually is, since March 2008 (see this page for more details). But still, I'm not really sure if its owner, User:Cobi, should be banned for operating ClueBot. Chances are low. SchfiftyThree 02:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Strange thing is, revert reason on warning was given as redirecting article to non-existant page, which the edit clearly didn't. And ClueBot does not treat all IP edits as vandalism. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 02:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, first, you are bordering on breaking WP:AGF. Secondly, if you want to see the bad redirect that ClueBot is complaining about, pagefind for "#REDIRECT" on this page. Thirdly, this is a false positive. And for the record, ClueBot does *not* distinguish between IP editors and new user accounts. Also, like SchfiftyThree mentioned, ClueBot is in the middle of a major rewrite. -- Cobi^(t|c|b) 21:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like almost all day today, ClueBot has been reverting a certain number of deleted characters instead of minor changes like obscenities or "!!!"s. Was it that ClueBot was decided to revert with the heuristics pageblank and massdelete (and possibly pagereplace) today? SchfiftyThree 21:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

This is a great bot. Thanks to all those who helped put it together. --Dweller (talk) 10:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I recently HELPED the SNL DVD list. I also commented inappropriatly on another page. I got no recognition for helping, just hurting.

I thought I was deleting the redirect, not the article itself but, this ClueBot fixed it Thank you! --Black DS (talk) 03:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Please remove the word "User:" from the visible text of the move summaries. I keep patrolling the move log for users who move their user pages out of place, and I do this by having my browser search for the string "User:" in the move log. The presence of this string in ClueBot's summaries makes it harder for me. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

This user is a strong Unionist. Please give the user a indef block.

Example of the user's edits:

• Stafford, Staffordshire, England to Stafford, England, UK
• Inverness, Highland, Scotland to Inverness, Scotland, UK
• Holyhead, Angelsey, Wales to Holyhead, Wales, UK
• Armagh, County Armagh, Northern Ireland, to Armagh, Northern Ireland, UK

- 78.150.149.0 (talk) 14:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)