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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Consensus

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Tech News: 2017-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's format configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it. [1][2]
The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.

Problems

There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis. [3]
Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this. [4]
Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed. [5]

Changes later this week

Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [6]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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15:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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The Signpost: 23 October 2017

News and notes: Money! WMF fundraising, Wikimedia strategy, WMF new office!

The Wikimedia Foundation publishes the latest fundraising report, convenes over the close of the strategic plan discussion, and moves into a new space.

Featured content: Don, Marcel, Emily, Jessica and other notables

A variety of topics promoted.

Humour: Guys named Ralph

If your name is Ralph, well sorry.

In focus: Offline Wikipedia developed at OFF.NETWORK Content Hackathon

Advocates for sharing offline information gather to make content, software, hardware, and social decisions.

Blog: The future of offline access to Wikipedia: The Kiwix example

A chat with a developer of open source software which allows users to download web content for offline reading, and the future of offline access to Wikipedia.

In the media: Facebook and poetry

Fighting fake news and plagiarism.

Special report: Working with GLAMs in the UK

Wikimedia UK's partnerships and achievements working with GLAM institutions.

Traffic report: Death, disaster, and entertainment

Readers interested in the the death of Hef, Puerto Rico, films and television.

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Tech News: 2017-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can use ccnorm_contains_any when you create an abuse filter. This can be used to look for multiple words or phrases within a string. It will find words where some characters have been replaced. You can read more in the documentation. [7]

Changes later this week

When you search in some languages the search function could use specific other languages if the first language didn't work. This is called a fallback language. This didn't work properly and created bad searches. The search index is being fixed to work better. [8]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

There is a Structured Commons community focus group for Commons and Wikidata contributors who want to give input on structured data on Wikimedia Commons. You can sign up to join it. [9]

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18:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not. Legobot (talk) 04:33, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Dynamic IPs and ClueBot

You wrote: > When vandalism happens, ClueBot does not differentiate whether or not you have a dynamic IP - it won't because it doesn't > matter.

Yes it does.

When you send one of these messages to a dynamic IP that has been reassigned by an ISP to a different user than the one who committed the vandalism it is a near certainty that it will go to someone who never has and never will edit Wikipedia and has no idea how Wikipedia works: they just know it as a place to look stuff up. It may go to someone who just did their very first edit (but not the one that triggered the warning): you can bet that they will never do another. They will find your messages accusing them of vandalism very offputting and perhaps even a little frightening (they may conclude that Wikipedia is "tracking" them). There are automated ways to identify dynamic IPs with some reliability. If you insist on continuing to send these automated warnings to IPs please arrange for the messages to go only to IPs that you have good reason to believe are static. 72.160.224.122 (talk) 19:28, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi IP,

It really does not matter to ClueBot NG whether or not you have a dynamic or static IP. None of the ClueBots are humans, they are all computer programs, in the case of ClueBot NG it is programmed to detect vandalism. If you set off one of its filters, you can expect to be reverted and warned for vandalism regardless whether you're a static IP, dynamic IP or a logged in user.

ClueBot NG's warnings include the name of the page that was edited and also a direct link to where the possible vandalism has happened. If a new person edits Wikipedia and sees a message from ClueBot NG, they will likely see the page name and realise that they did not make the edit therefore the warning is not directed at them. ClueBot NG also does not accuse editors outright of vandalism, because it is not human it cannot do this because it cannot read the edit like a human can. Instead it reverts it as possible vandalism and says that the edit does not appear to be constructive. It doesn't say that it isn't constructive - ever. The messages that it sends out are also very soft messages initially so as not to frighten off new editors trying to edit constructively.

ClueBot NG will never only warn static IPs, it will continue to warn both. However, if you think that the bot's warning messages could do with being changed, you would probably be best to take that up with ClueBot NG's operators - @Cobi: and @Rich Smith:.

Hope this helps!--5 albert square (talk) 00:19, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television

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Tech News: 2017-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now block users from emailing you through the Wikimedia wikis. [10]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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00:20, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Tech News: 2017-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You will no longer see the patrol log on Special:Log unless you specifically select it. [11]

Changes later this week

The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 6 November. You can post proposals from 19:00 UTC and until November 19.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

URLs that link to sections on Wikimedia wikis with non-Latin scripts have looked like this: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.8F instead of https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История. This will soon be fixed. Old links will still work. [12][13]

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18:45, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer-anon

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Tech News: 2017-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

The diff you see when you compare two different versions of a page has changed on MediaWiki.org and the test wiki. This is to make it easier to find a text change in a moved paragraph. It will hopefully soon come to more wikis. You can report bugs in Phabricator. [14]
A new user group on Commons will be able to upload MP3 files. The plan is to have this user group from 17 November. [15]
Wikis using Flagged Revisions will get the New filters for Edit Review by default on the recent changes pages. It will be possible to opt-out in user preferences. [16]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 November. It will be on all wikis from 16 November (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

Support for uploading and viewing 3D models is coming soon to Wikimedia Commons. The feature will support the .STL file format. You can see an example on the test wiki. [17]

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19:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/RfC: Should the Reference Desks be closed

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship

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Tech News: 2017-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

If you use the Chrome web browser on Android you can see a download icon on the mobile website. You can download a formatted PDF. It will work in other mobile browsers in the future. [18]
The abuse filter now has a function called get_matches. You can use it to store matches from regular expressions – one of each capturing group. You can read more in Phabricator.

Problems

Last week's MediaWiki version didn't come to all Wikipedias because of a database crash. It will be on all wikis on 20 November. [19][20][21]

Changes later this week

There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 November at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

Language converter syntax will no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. This will happen next week. [22][23]

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19:19, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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The Signpost: 24 November 2017

News and notes: Cons, cons, cons

The first ever Wikidata conference was a con we wanted. Problematic paid editing while in a position of trust: not so much.

Arbitration report: Administrator desysoped; How to deal with crosswiki issues; Mister Wiki case likely

Arbitration matters from October and November.

Technology report: Searching and surveying

A new advanced search interface; the Community Wishlist Survey is back.

Interview: A featured article centurion

Brianboulton talks about featured articles on his 100th promotion.

WikiProject report: Recommendations for WikiProjects

A novel approach to recruit members for your project!

In the media: Open knowledge platform as a media institution

Wikipedia seen as flawed but important; conservative think-tank fellow wants his say; volunteer in Madison wants to close the gender gap.

Traffic report: Strange and inappropriate

Readers intrigued by the Netflix show Stranger Things, and by sexual assault allegations.

Featured content: We will remember them

War memorials, soldiers, extinct species, and devastating hurricanes are some of the most recently promoted featured content.

Recent research: Who wrote this? New dataset on the provenance of Wikipedia text

And other new research publications.

Humour: Good faith (but still incomprehensible)

The entertainment value of Wikipedia.

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Tech News: 2017-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now test the new advanced search function beta feature on mediawiki.org. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It will come to German and Arabic Wikipedia this week. It will come to more wikis later. [24]
You can now upload large files with the Internet Archive upload tool. Previously you could not upload files larger than 100 MB. [25]
You can now use the Timeless skin on all wikis. You can choose skins in Special:Preferences#Appearance. [26]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 November. It will be on all wikis from 30 November (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 November at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)