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Self-propelled guns fall into both afv=yes and artillery=yes. Please see the example infobox in T28 Super Heavy Tank.
Can we rearrange the layout a bit so that these two work better together? Specifically, the primary_armament field should be shown at the top of the arty specifications section (within the horizontal rules). I suppose secondary_armament should immediately follow that section, but perhaps armour belongs after that, so it is not separated from the rest of the vehicle specs.
Some of the relevant fields, i.e. barrels, range, max_range, elevation and traverse, might also be useful for tanks or other AFVs in general, and are commonly found in references. Perhaps these should be available when afv=yes? —MichaelZ. 2008-10-08 23:12 z
And should we mention in the docs that both afv and artillery can be set to “yes”? —MichaelZ. 2008-10-08 23:23 z
Full-width image
It's always bothered me that the image is just a few pixels narrower than the steel-blue header bars (a compliant 300px image is 5 pixels narrower, and has a visible margin of 2 px on the left and 3 px on the right). The uneven white margins looks like a mistake.
For pixel-perfect reproduction of the old style, the simplest solution would be to add padding:1px; to every tr, instead of adding it to some table cells. Most efficiently done in a stylesheet rather than in the template.
Any comments about or objections to this change? —MichaelZ. 2008-10-26 21:06 z
Ambigious Field Use
(Sorry, I'm not that into templates, I hope I use the correct nomenclature.)
The field labels for {{{cartridge}}} and {{{cartridge_weight}}} both link to Shell (projectile), which is a clear contradiction, as "cartridge" does not seem to ever refer to only the projectile. (While "shell" seems to be ambigious.)
This came up in KwK 36 and KwK 43. In both articles, "Shell" is pointing to the cartridge and "Shell weight" is pointing to the projectile. (Actually I think I will fix the contradiction in these two articles, but I suspect the same problem exists in a large number of other articles.)
I can't find alternative fields that would allow all four pieces of information, ie. cartridge, cartridge weight, projectile and projectile weight.
As I said I'm not familar with templates, so I can't think of a straightforward solution. I also suspect that some prescriptivism with regard to the "correct" use of the terms plays a part. (FWIW, a google picture search for "gun shell" mostly points to entire cartridges, partly to empty casings and only rarely to projectiles.)
Case in point, there is not even a clear way to fix the articles. I don't want to remove the info about the cartridge (eg. "88 x 571mmR") as that seems to be quite significant. The label however would still point to the projectile. --91.5.99.247 (talk) 10:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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AGM-88E Advanced Anti‐Radiation Guided Missile
Specifications
Mass
361 kg (796 lb)
Length
4.17 m (13.7 ft)
Diameter
254 mm (10.0 in)
Wingspan
1.13 m (3 ft 8 in)
Tailspan
.61 m (2 ft 0 in)
Request addition of a tailspan parameter for missiles, to compliment the wingspan parameter. The change has been tested in the sandbox here, an example of the rendering is to the right. 111.220.98.160 (talk) 11:44, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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