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WP:BLPPRIVACY says that "articles should not include postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information for living persons, although links to websites maintained by the subject are generally permitted" and later "If you see personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, account numbers, etc. in a BLP or anywhere on Wikipedia, edit the page to remove it and contact the oversight team so that they can evaluate it and possibly remove it from the page history." With this policy language, should "residence" remain a parameter in this template? My sense is that it should be deleted from the template to discourage editors from entering information that would violate BLPPRIVACY. --Enos733 (talk) 20:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
I recently made changes to Charles Harper (politician) to include all of their offices, but have noticed that under the first office ("2nd Speaker of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly") the predecessor and successor are not showing. I have checked all of the parameters and can't find any errors. Both fields were showing at multiple points when I was previewing the changes I was making but in the final published edit the information isn't displaying. Can someone please tell me what I've done wrong and how to correct it? Adam Black talk • contributions 20:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Because there is a growing list of politicians turned criminals, I propose that we add fields (criminal_charge, convinction_penalty, and conviction_status) from Template:Infobox criminal to Template:Infobox officeholder in the same way that they have been made available in Template:Infobox person.
Currently, there is a dispute about adding an instance of Template:Infobox criminal to the page of Donald Trump following his criminal conviction. Given that some argue that the use of Template:Infobox criminal is too strong, the amendment of Template:Infobox officeholder as previously mentioned could provide a compromise. Bgregz (talk) 00:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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The spouse parameter is causing issues on articles eg. Rishi Sunak, Donald Trump 93.37.105.221 (talk) 11:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
The rendering is completely messed up on the wiki of many politicians. It is displaying an "ambassador to" field below all tables.
Eg: Narendra Modi, Rishi Sunak
am not able to add screenshots Skratata69 (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
This has now been fixed. Not sure how or why. Toadspike [Talk] 12:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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Clean ndivs; implement my edit today in this template's sandbox page. Santiago Claudio (talk) 06:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Can you add a caliph= parameter ? A lot articles about Islamic governors/generals use monarch= which is wrong. I know its possible to add it with xblanknamey but thats too much hassle AlexBobCharles (talk) 17:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
caliph=
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It seems important to have the age and status of whether a given politician is deceased in a fairly obvious place in the infobox for officeholders. The current state is that there can optionally be a personal information section which contains this below the entire list of political positions, so that instead of being listed clerly, most politician's infoboxes omit the entire "Personal data" section - this seems much worse than having the living status / age highlighted at the top. Davidmanheim (talk) 06:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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{{Infobox officeholder|embed=yes}}
Description of suggested change: Nobold in parameter "native name". Diff:
MykolaHK (talk) 18:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
What's the difference between those two fields? Should academic degrees go into the education field? Or is the education field for schools / universities that a subject enrolled in but not graduate from so that they are part of the subject's education but are not an alma mater for them? Or is the education field for non-academic education, i.e. elementary school, middle school, high school (and vocational school?)? Nakonana (talk) 12:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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Education, e.g., degree, institution and graduation year, if relevant. If very little information is available or relevant, the |alma_mater= parameter may be more appropriate.
|alma_mater=
parameter is a more concise alternative to (not addition to) |education=, and will often consist of the linked name of the last-attended institution of higher education (not secondary schools). It is usually not relevant to include either parameter for non-graduates, but article talk page consensus may conclude otherwise, as perhaps at Bill Gates.
To any administrator, apply these, my previous edits to this infobox's sandbox:
Santiago Claudio (talk) 02:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Align with edit by administrator Izno to Template:Infobox person last April with a summary of "clean ndivs."
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Thanks to this template, Dan Cox is listed as having military service because of having been in the Civil Air Patrol, even though CAP isn't one of the uniformed services and those who join it aren't subject to military discipline. Is there a way this template could be make to accommodate this difference, or would it be necessary to just remove it from the info box in the article itself and just refer to that membership in the article text? Thanks! --Steve Foerster (talk) 14:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
What is the common practice when using the |rank= parameter if the officeholder held a higher rank than the one with which they separated military service?
As a case in point, Tim Walz held the rank of Command Sergeant Major (provisional), but retired as Master Sergeant, a lower rank. Should this parameter be highest rank, or last rank held? — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 03:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Following discussion with @Wozal: here and here, I want to seek consensus on removing the comment "Spouse(s), if notable" here: Template:Infobox officeholder § TemplateData (click show). This note shows up on visual editor for some editors. The template page itself does not have this note if you ctrl+f for "spouse" (it is currently only hidden under TemplateData), so, in my opinion, these instructions clash. Also, I've found the vast majority of pages follow the guidance that a spouse's name is included in the infobox, even if the spouse(s) are not notable enough to have a page in the encyclopedia; e.g., Stephen A. Douglas, Elizabeth Warren, J. B. Pritzker, Tina Kotek, Steve Womack, etc., etc. Also, if one spouse was notable and a second spouse was not, would we say "2, including Martha". I think the expectation that only notable spouses should be added is odd guidance, if you want a quick and full view of a subject's life, which is the goal of infobox, as far as I understand. --Engineerchange (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I want you to add "Major donors" to the officeholder template so people can easily see who is behind the person's funding. Thanks! DivineReality (talk) 07:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC) DivineReality (talk) 07:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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The party field currently goes to personal details, In this version of Isaac Newton It seems disconnected from his political office. I did this to bypass the template default. Can we change it so the "party" label puts it in personal details and "party1" label puts in the office section? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Add |family=
|family=
Already used in various other derivatives of infobox person, and would be useful (in particular) for British hereditary peers. UndercoverClassicist T·C 06:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
I don't know the code magic going on with {{Infobox officeholder/office}}, but the alongside param doesn't work when using the term (not term_start/term_end) param. Compare:
alongside
term
term_start
term_end
{{Infobox officeholder |name=Foo Bar |office=Bar of Foosville |term=2024 |alongside=Bar Baz and Baz Qux }}
{{Infobox officeholder |name=Foo Bar |office=Bar of Foosville |term_start=2024 |term_end=2024 |alongside=Bar Baz and Baz Qux }}
Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 01:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
If someone is a deputy to a non-standard position, where do I put the person they are a deputy to? e.g. for "deputy leader of moon landing committee" where do I put the name of the concurrent "leader of moon landing committee"?
There's a place to put the deputy in the box for a leader, but not the other way around?
Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 07:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
I see no reason to keep distinct fields |relatives= and |relations=, especially when they are ranked in different places in the infobox. — HTGS (talk) 04:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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Is there a reason why this template doesn't include an "other names" or "alias" parameter under personal data? Seems like a useful parameter that is standard fare under most other biographical infoboxes. RachelTensions (talk) 15:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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{{infobox officeholder}}
But I am really captured by the thought that when you have people appointed/elected under different names that you kind of treat it as a separate politician, but the same person, and you structure the templates to reflect that they opted to use separate identities. My best to you on this conundrum, though.— User:Vanisaac 20:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm wrong. But as I understand it, we list a lieutenant governor in a governor's infobox or a governor in a lieutenant governors' infobox, even before they've taken office. We simply add "(elect)", next to the name. I'm asking because this practice is being questioned. GoodDay (talk) 00:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Description of suggested change:
Another "at-large" capitalization bug. See caption below infobox photo at Martin Maginnis for example. It would be nice if it would "lc:" the At-large parameter as used in the caption text. Dicklyon (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
This parameter makes no sense the way it is presented in the infobox. George W. Bush was not preceded by Bill Clinton in the role of "43rd President of the United States", nor did Barack Obama succeed him in the role of "43rd President of the United States". Because people just copy what they see, we inevitably get absurd OR such as "50th Attorney General of Arkansas", "2nd Chief of the U.S. Liaison Office to the People's Republic of China", "31st Prime Minister of Egypt", etc. This is impossible to correct, let alone keep correct, and even when used as intended, it just does not make sense. Surtsicna (talk) 22:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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I tried to get something going at Village Pump, but wasn't successful. Anyways, good luck in what you're trying to accomplish 'here'. The community's lack of enthusiasm about this general topic, is quite disappointing. GoodDay (talk) 16:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
What do you think of adding a new section to the infobox for police srvice of the officeholder, similar to that for military service? There's a few of those cases (e.g. Bernard Kerik; mostly police officers who turned to politics, or police chiefs) and embeding the {{Infobox police officer}} is not ideal as it operates with different visuals and therefore creates confusion—the section title "Police career" has plain background as it is based on the {{Infobox person}} colour scheme, which apears to look more like a subsection when used as a child with {{Infobox officeholder}} rather than a full section and does not create clear distinction with the rest of the infobox. It is even more inappropriate when the "Military service" section is used. Proposed parameters:
Police service
Chears! — Antoni12345 (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Is it possible to add the criminal parameters from the Template:Infobox person to the officeholder template for someone who has been convicted and sentenced for a felony and is a current officeholder?
| criminal_charges = | criminal_penalty = | criminal_status =
Space4TCatHerder🖖 18:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
The question of whether to add the conviction to the current infobox (as suggested by ARandomName123 and Sr Desayuno) is not answered in this RfC.
Template:Infobox officeholder makes use of Template:Constlk, which, according to its documentation, should be substituted. I'm inexperienced in these matters, and I fear breaking things. Can or should it be substituted in this instance? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Elon Musk § RfC: Should we use the officeholder infobox?. Some1 (talk) 14:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Description of suggested change: I request that the formatting of native_name be updated from bold to roman and the use of {{nobold}} be made obsolete here. I have yet to see a page that does not use that template inside it.
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another person would likely need to automate the removal of the template if this request goes through. Juwan (talk) 21:36, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Hi, I added a caption to the template's use at Marwan Barghouti, but for reasons that I cannot figure out, the caption is not displaying. Any help would be appreciated. Green Montanan (talk) 16:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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Unlink Template:Infobox people, there is not disappearance parameters. Now I can't add disappearance date and place on Dhirendranath Datta. Please add "disappeared_place" and "disappeared_date" parameters like infobox people. Mehedi Abedin 20:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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A "chiefminister" field should be added as there is many chief ministers such as Chief Minister of the Isle of Man, Chief Minister of Jersey, Chief Minister of Guernsey. It would be used on the infoboxes of government ministers such as those on Council of Ministers of the Isle of Man. Sahaib (talk) 08:23, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
