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Text on the facade

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The left text on the facade states "Long live the Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong-un", as correctly stated in the description of the picture. But I have a question here: what was there before KJU became the leader? Did it say the same about Kim Jong-il or Kim Il-sung (btw, I always thought "Great Leader" is Kim Il-sung's title)? Or did the text appear with Kim Jong-un first?--Alexmagnus (talk) 00:12, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-19T00:12:00.000Z","author":"Alexmagnus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alexmagnus-2017-02-19T00:12:00.000Z-Text_on_the_facade","replies":["c-2Q-2017-02-19T01:45:00.000Z-Alexmagnus-2017-02-19T00:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not sure what it said before, probably same thing but for KJI, there's photos of the station around the internet from previous years. As for the "Great Leader" thing... it is and isn't; Kim Il-sung was 위대한 수령; it's the 수령 that's reserved for him. Kim Jong-il was 위대한 지도자, and it seems like 지도자 has been reserved for him. And now Kim Jong-un is being called 위대한 령도자... well, all three of 수령, 지도자 and 령도자 are translated as "leader"... 2Q (talk) 01:45, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-19T01:45:00.000Z","author":"2Q","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-2Q-2017-02-19T01:45:00.000Z-Alexmagnus-2017-02-19T00:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Requested move 5 May 2020

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. BD2412 T 23:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-15T23:28:00.000Z","author":"BD2412","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BD2412-2020-05-15T23:28:00.000Z-Requested_move_5_May_2020","replies":[]}}-->

Pyongyang Station → Pyongyang station
Pulgunbyol Station → Pulgunbyol station
Ragwon Station (Pyongyang) → Ragwon station (Pyongyang)
Kwangmyong Station (Pyongyang) → Kwangmyong station (Pyongyang)
Samhung Station → Samhung station
Hyoksin Station → Hyoksin station
Konsol Station → Konsol station
Hwanggumbol Station → Hwanggumbol station
Konguk Station → Konguk station
Kwangbok Station → Kwangbok station
Kaeson Station → Kaeson station
Sungni Station → Sungni station
Ponghwa Station → Ponghwa station
Sopyongyang Station → Sopyongyang station
Hongui Station → Hongui station
Tumangang Station → Tumangang station
Rajin Station → Rajin station
Pyongchon Station → Pyongchon station
Chongbang Station → Chongbang station
Chongjin Chongnyon Station → Chongjin Chongnyon station
Tongrim Station → Tongrim station
Chonggang Station → Chonggang station
Sinanju Chongnyon Station → Sinanju Chongnyon station
Chongju Chongnyon Station → Chongju Chongnyon station
Potonggang Station → Potonggang station
Maengjungri Station → Maengjungri station
Chonsung Station → Chonsung station
Jonu Station → Jonu station
Kangalli Station → Kangalli station
Sogam Station → Sogam station
Yonggwang Station → Yonggwang station
Puhung Station → Puhung station
Ryonggang Station → Ryonggang station
Anbyon Station → Anbyon station
Kowon Station → Kowon station
Wonsan Station → Wonsan station
Myonggo Station → Myonggo station
Pyonggang Station → Pyonggang station
Sechon Station → Sechon station
Tonghae Station → Tonghae station
Taesin Station → Taesin station

– Use lowercase station, as in most such articles. Nothing special about North Korea compared to South Korea, so the downcasing moves of these in response to another recent multi-RM station downcasing discussion should not have been reverted on the basis of this border, as claimed. Dicklyon (talk) 23:02, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T23:02:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2020-05-05T23:02:00.000Z-Requested_move_5_May_2020","replies":[]}}-->

Background from nom

As I was working on cleaning up straggler over-capitalization in Korean station article titles, after the massive renamings by others in response to Talk:Achasan station#Requested move 20 January 2018, I followed a few links across the DMZ and into North Korea, and started on those, too. I've been marking the redirects as "R from miscapitalization" as I go, which helps to dissuade the occassional new user who likes to cap things and doesn't know the history. User:Sawol objected after I crossed into North Korea, and stated that the above-linked prior discussion was limited to South Korea (though the discussion and closing statement do not contain the words South or North anywhere).

Sawol proceeded to undo my work, using his page-mover right to get around the edited redirects (thereby violating his terms of expected behavior for page-mover right, using it to gain the upper hand in a title dispute, per Wikipedia:Page mover#Page move disputes). He suggested I do an RM discussion, while others on my talk page supported my moves, perhaps speedily restoring them since station capitalization is considered long settled. Dicklyon (talk) 23:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-2020-05-05T23:14:00.000Z-Background_from_nom","replies":[]}}-->

Survey and discussion

Please Support or Oppose or Comment in this section.

Support, per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS, and innumerable previous RMs on "station" and "line" articles. There's nothing special about Korean cases, other than the lack of a letter-case system in the Korean language is even more reason to lower-case these. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T01:25:00.000Z","author":"SMcCandlish","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SMcCandlish-2020-05-06T01:25:00.000Z-Survey_and_discussion","replies":[]}}-->
Support per SMcCandlish. Mackensen (talk) 13:23, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T13:23:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mackensen-2020-05-06T13:23:00.000Z-Survey_and_discussion","replies":[]}}-->
Support per above policy, and there seems to be no other special reason why having it with a capital letter is any better or preferable. Redalert2fan (talk) 16:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-06T16:14:00.000Z","author":"Redalert2fan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Redalert2fan-2020-05-06T16:14:00.000Z-Survey_and_discussion","replies":[]}}-->
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 04:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-09T04:57:00.000Z","author":"Ortizesp","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ortizesp-2020-05-09T04:57:00.000Z-Survey_and_discussion","replies":[]}}-->
Support - Cards84664 04:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-15T04:39:00.000Z","author":"Cards84664","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cards84664-2020-05-15T04:39:00.000Z-Survey_and_discussion","replies":[],"displayName":"Cards"}}-->

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.