Moved this page to the correct title of Long Island Rail Road.
--Morven 19:40, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Added facts to the Mainline. Removed reference to "Babylon Branch" (there is no such branch other than in customer Timetables) and combined the Montauk Branch facts with now "defunct" "Babylon Branch" facts. Added Atlantic Branch. Edited Long Beach Branch (does not split from the Montauk Branch). Edited West Hempstead Branch. Edited Far Rock Branch. dunk me 14:45, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I removed this:
The LIRR is certainly not a Class I; at least it's not in any Class I list I've ever seen. Is there a way to fix this statement? As it stands, even if the LIRR was a Class I, Amtrak has only passenger service. --SPUI (talk) 11:17, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The schedules on the official site are annoyingly incomplete, not showing stuff like whether south shore trains go via St. Albans or Locust Manor. Is there any pattern, or does every branch have trains via each? Also, which branches have trains going to Long Island City via either path? --SPUI (talk) 04:11, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
"Government of New York City" is not appropriate. MTA is a state agency. --Nelson Ricardo 03:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-28T03:52:00.000Z","author":"Nricardo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nricardo-2006-02-28T03:52:00.000Z-Category","replies":[],"displayName":"Nelson Ricardo"}}-->
The LIRR is the busiest commuter railroad in the US, and yet there are relatively few articles that detail the branches and stations. Other smaller commuter railroad systems have many detailed articles about their stations and branches, like Tri-Rail, SEPTA Regional Rail, MBTA Commuter Rail, and New Jersey Transit. Even the LIRR's sister, Metro-North Railroad has a fair amount of child branch and station articles. So far, the only detailed branches are the Port Washington, Far Rockaway and Atlantic branches. I have a fair amount of knowledge of the LIRR system, but I don't have the time to build all the needed remaining articles. I may take a shot on the Port Jeff branch soon, as it is one of the busiest. I hope someone is enthusiastic enough to expand the LIRR system, especially for the other busy branches: the Ronkonkoma, the Babylon, the Montauk, the Long Beach, etc. --Tinlinkin 05:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-10T05:08:00.000Z","author":"Tinlinkin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tinlinkin-2006-05-10T05:08:00.000Z-Expansion","replies":["c-Tinlinkin-2006-07-16T05:23:00.000Z-Tinlinkin-2006-05-10T05:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
It would be nice to have ridership information on the infobox, according to http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/mta/investor/pdf/2005_annual_report.pdf for 2005 there were 80130517 riders in 2005, this is rivaling many radip transit systems in the US. The daily ridership is therefore 219536, but I think average weekday might be a more useful figure. --JVittes 15:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-15T15:43:00.000Z","author":"JVittes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JVittes-2006-07-15T15:43:00.000Z-Infobox","replies":[]}}-->
The information presented in [1] is incomplete. This is a station information page for Jamaica. A Queens bus map will also confirm all the bus routes that serve the Jamaica LIRR station.
Bus routes: MTA Bus: Q6, Q8, Q9, Q25, Q34, Q40, Q41, Q60, Q65 (9 routes) MTA NYCT Bus: Q20 A/B,24,30,31,43,44 (7 routes, splitting Q20A and Q20B) This time I will include the Jamaica Av. buses (Q54 and Q56) as they are 1-2 blocks from the station, for a total of 18 bus routes. Tinlinkin 21:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-29T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Tinlinkin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tinlinkin-2006-07-29T21:51:00.000Z-Jamaica_station_bus_connections","replies":[]}}-->
In the first sentence, when it says that people refer to it as "L-I-double-R". Does that mean that people literally say "El, eye, double, arr"? Because no one says that, in my experience. People do say "el, eye, arr, arr," though, and I wasn't sure if that's what was meant by what is written. Or has anyone heard people actually use the word "double" when talking about the LIRR? 69.123.177.197 19:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-14T19:11:00.000Z","author":"69.123.177.197","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-69.123.177.197-2006-08-14T19:11:00.000Z-L-I-R-R","replies":["c-Larry_V-2006-08-15T02:02:00.000Z-69.123.177.197-2006-08-14T19:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 18:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-22T18:09:00.000Z","author":"MakeChooChooGoNow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MakeChooChooGoNow-2006-08-22T18:09:00.000Z-External_Links","replies":[]}}-->
As the number of articles about specific LIRR stations is growing, we are beginning to need a comprehensive LIRR station infobox. There is already an infobox at template:start LIRR box; however, it is inadequate, as it only includes the line, previous station on the line, and next station on the line. There ought to be an infobox that provides information similar to that found on the branch articles, such as Location/Intersection, Station Link (to MTA website), distance to Penn Station, and connections to other bus/subway services, as well as perhaps number of platforms/tracks, services such as taxis available at the station, and if possible usage. Anyone willing to volunteer? If such an infobox already exists, it should be brought to wider usage in station articles. Robert 07:04, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-24T07:04:00.000Z","author":"WindowsWizard12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WindowsWizard12-2006-09-24T07:04:00.000Z-Station_Infobox","replies":["c-Tinlinkin-2006-09-28T16:35:00.000Z-WindowsWizard12-2006-09-24T07:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Robert"}}-->
I've added a map from the mta website to this article and also removed the tag classifying the article as needing a map. Robert 21:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-25T21:24:00.000Z","author":"WindowsWizard12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WindowsWizard12-2006-09-25T21:24:00.000Z-Map","replies":["c-CComMack-2006-09-28T01:29:00.000Z-WindowsWizard12-2006-09-25T21:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Robert"}}-->
The caption for the image Image:Long Island Rail Road.jpg on the article was just recently changed to state that it was an M1 car instaid of an M3 which was written there. I was under the impression that it was an M3 becuase they are newer; however, it is virtually impossible to tell from the image since the M1 and M3 cars are nearly identical. So, perhaps the caption to the image should read "M1/M3" which is pretty common in other places.
M1/M3 (railcar)
Robert 20:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-21T20:11:00.000Z","author":"WindowsWizard12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WindowsWizard12-2006-10-21T20:11:00.000Z-M1\/M3","replies":[],"displayName":"Robert"}}-->
It's nice to see that someone is filling in the station listings on the branch line articles with closed stations. But now I kindly ask that the date (or the year at least) of closure be added (e.g. closed March 16, 1998). Also, add italics to the existing bold to indicate closed stations, for further avoidance of confusion with current service.
Example:
I's still refining the convention (and anybody can chime in with further suggestions), so this may change in the near future, but I think this is adequate for now.
In an additional note, individual station articles should not link to abandoned stations at the moment, only existing services. Thanks. Tinlinkin 04:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-24T04:19:00.000Z","author":"Tinlinkin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tinlinkin-2006-10-24T04:19:00.000Z-Closed_stations","replies":[]}}-->
Ok.
This information is mostly from a 1941 PRR map.
--NE2 01:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-10T01:32:00.000Z","author":"NE2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE2-2006-12-10T01:32:00.000Z-Full_list_of_former_lines","replies":[]}}-->
East Bushwick Branch is former? Didn't they have a small locomotive get loose at Fresh Pond Yard a couple years ago, smash a track welding truck, and roll over the English Kill bridge before a FDNY Lieutenant hopped aboard and pulled the brake? A couple months ago the tracks east and west of a busy grade crossing, less than a mile from the end of the line, were showing bare metal, not all rust. Jim.henderson 02:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-10T02:19:00.000Z","author":"Jim.henderson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jim.henderson-2006-12-10T02:19:00.000Z-Full_list_of_former_lines","replies":["c-NE2-2006-12-10T04:09:00.000Z-Jim.henderson-2006-12-10T02:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've added all these lines but the Woodside Branch (which was abandoned before 1891) to the list in the article. --NE2 17:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-10T17:25:00.000Z","author":"NE2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE2-2006-12-10T17:25:00.000Z-Full_list_of_former_lines","replies":[]}}-->
Was their a fair-use violation with the old map? I think the previous one, the one from MTA, is better than the current map. Does this image bring it in line with other rail lines? --Meadowbrook 05:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-14T05:49:00.000Z","author":"Meadowbrook","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meadowbrook-2006-12-14T05:49:00.000Z-Change_of_Image?","replies":["c-NE2-2006-12-14T05:55:00.000Z-Meadowbrook-2006-12-14T05:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
--NE2 15:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-20T15:39:00.000Z","author":"NE2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE2-2006-12-20T15:39:00.000Z-Electrification","replies":[]}}-->
I think the list of Presidents should be split into its own article, e.g. List of Presidents of the Long Island Rail Road. Mackensen (talk) 16:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-20T16:27:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mackensen-2006-12-20T16:27:00.000Z-Presidents","replies":["c-NE2-2006-12-20T17:34:00.000Z-Mackensen-2006-12-20T16:27:00.000Z","c-NE2-2006-12-20T18:07:00.000Z-Mackensen-2006-12-20T16:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
This is nested by mergers and reorganizations except where a company was not merged.
--NE2 03:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-22T03:41:00.000Z","author":"NE2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE2-2006-12-22T03:41:00.000Z-Full_list_of_affiliated_or_predecessor_railroads","replies":[]}}-->
For a discussion about the succession boxes used in LIRR station articles, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Succession boxes and its subsections #More about services vs. lines and #Further LIRR discussion. Tinlinkin 14:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-22T14:25:00.000Z","author":"Tinlinkin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tinlinkin-2006-12-22T14:25:00.000Z-LIRR_station_succession_boxes","replies":[]}}-->
Some of this information is from [2] and [3]. Some alignments are from [4]. It appears Jamaica Junction was at Brewer Boulevard and Conduit Avenue.
--NE2 08:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-23T08:22:00.000Z","author":"NE2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE2-2006-12-23T08:22:00.000Z-Streetcar_lines","replies":[]}}-->
I thought the history from 1901 to 1945 was entirely too brief and excluded important parts of the story during some of the railroad's most important years. I added a couple paragraphs that I hope will ameliorate the problem. Most of the information comes from the research I did for a couple of articles published in the last two issues of the Long Island Historical Journal. I apologize for submitting them anonymously; I had not quite figured out how the system works. Sean Kass 05:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-04T05:17:00.000Z","author":"Sean Kass","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sean_Kass-2007-01-04T05:17:00.000Z-History_From_1901-1945","replies":["c-NE2-2007-01-04T05:34:00.000Z-Sean_Kass-2007-01-04T05:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
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