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Lex Scantia appears to be a common misnomer for this. Somebody knowledgeable please create a redirect to here. --87.154.0.103 (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-16T15:24:00.000Z","author":"87.154.0.103","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.154.0.103-2008-07-16T15:24:00.000Z-Create_redirect","replies":["c-Lamarcus-2008-10-17T05:45:00.000Z-87.154.0.103-2008-07-16T15:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Agree wither merger. -Lamarcus (talk) 05:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-17T05:45:00.000Z","author":"Lamarcus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lamarcus-2008-10-17T05:45:00.000Z-87.154.0.103-2008-07-16T15:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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What does the law say?

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This article appears to omit the actual contents of the law. Is there a reason for this? If not, could a knowledgeable person insert it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.135.37 (talk) 15:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-04T15:29:00.000Z","author":"86.44.135.37","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-86.44.135.37-2010-08-04T15:29:00.000Z-What_does_the_law_say?","replies":[]}}-->

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overstated claims

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This law is poorly documented in the historical record and obscure to scholars, yet the article seems quite certain of itself. It assumes that the ancient Romans regularly beat gays to death as a matter of law. In fact, some scholars have interpreted the law as aimed at protecting young freeborn males from older predators; see for instance John Pollini, "The Warren Cup: Homoerotic Love and Symposial Rhetoric in Silver," Art Bulletin 81.1 (1999) 21–52, especially p. 27 on the lex. (The lack of legal standing for slaves applies here as in other matters of law.) Here is a particularly shady statement, despite its seven footnotes: "Allegations exist that even before Lex Scantinia such laws existed in Rome, but direct evidence of these laws has been lost." Isn't this rather like saying "when did you stop beating your wife?" There's no proof, but "allegations exist." Nearly all the secondary sources cited date to the 19th century, when homosexuality was still a difficult topic to discuss openly. The article in Smith's dictionary on the fustuarium doesn't deal with homosexual behaviors at all, and anyway, this was in the context of the army, where the regulation of sexual behavior (not orientation) is an aspect of military discipline (including among the Greeks, who considered homoerotic attachment an asset to valor in battle, as evidenced by Xenophon). In other words, the article has some POV issues, and should probably actually use more of the sources it lists at the bottom of the page. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-17T15:41:00.000Z","author":"Cynwolfe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cynwolfe-2010-11-17T15:41:00.000Z-overstated_claims","replies":[]}}-->

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A Roman law (...) was typically named after the official who proposed it, and never after a defendant. Senatus consultum Macedonianum was named after a defendant (As to the Macedonian decree of the Senate) Pilot Pirx (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-02T12:11:00.000Z","author":"Pilot Pirx","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pilot_Pirx-2021-07-02T12:11:00.000Z-InternetArchiveBot-2017-12-22T07:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->