I noticed Ford no longer sells the Crown Vic' to retail customers in Canada, but I can't find out when this happened (I'm guessing 2003). It's still available to fleets however. I read also that Ford is expected to make the same move soon in the US with the introduction of the Five Hundred. -- stewacide —Preceding undated comment added 13:12, 10 March 2004.
I think you're right to question this about the CV no longer being sold as police cars, Morven. If that happened, there'd hardly be any market for them, I think. I also wonder about the part of the article that says a gas tank upgrade is being offered to all owners. I understood that this was only being offered to police forces. RivGuySC 01:38, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Is there not a stretched wheelbase Crown Vic' sold for taxi use? I've heard about this somewhere but I wouldn't know... -- stewacide 20:41, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, there is. It's code P70. P71 is the Police Interceptor, P70 is the Long Wheel Base, P73 is the base Crown Victoria, and P74 is the Crown Vic LX. I'm not sure of the correct term for the P-codes, but they're encoded in the VIN. An example VIN for a Police Interceptor made after 1992 would be 2FALP71W0TX000000. A civilian base Crown Vic of the same year would then be 2FALP73W0TX000000, and a Crown Vic LX would be 2FALP74W0TX000000. (Yeah, I know I need to get a Wikipedia account. If you have any more questions, email me. abuse-at-divefox.net.)
Does anyone know what kind of miles per gallon a 92 might get? 64.246.148.135 21:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-08T21:43:00.000Z","author":"64.246.148.135","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-64.246.148.135-2006-01-08T21:43:00.000Z-Police_usage_question","replies":[]}}-->
The 92 Crown Vic was EPA rated at 18mpg city/25mpg highway. Those ratings depended on driving style, vehicle condition, traffic patterns, altitude, fuel quality, time of the year, etc. For a 1992 in good condition, properly tuned up and driven with a light foot, 15mpg city is a safe bet. If you keep your speed down on the highways, accelerate slowly and don't pass people, you could probably do better than 25mpg on the highway.
I just got a '92 Crown Vic on Saturday, and I've been playing with the gas mileage counter on the dash. With a light foot I can just beat 18 MPG on cross-town trips. Even setting the cruise at 55 and only measuring the part of the trips between onramps and off-ramps, I can barely beat 25 MPG. I managed to get up to 28 MPG in one section of Cleveland highway, but I was going very slow, probably cruisng closer to 45 than 55. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.185.167.168 (talk) 06:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-10T06:14:00.000Z","author":"65.185.167.168","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-65.185.167.168-2007-12-10T06:14:00.000Z-Police_usage_question","replies":[]}}-->
WTH is this?
Earlier paragraph indicates that the fire caused by rear end crash seems to be a typical high speed crash. There is an article point out defending the Crown Victoria... THEN on the last paragraph whoever wrote it it portrays Ford like being O.J. Simpson who got away from murder. Re-wording some of these nformation may be needed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.153.249 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-15T17:18:00.000Z","author":"24.83.153.249","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-24.83.153.249-2006-05-15T17:18:00.000Z-Fuel_Tank","replies":["c-Morven-2006-05-15T23:25:00.000Z-24.83.153.249-2006-05-15T17:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
As it stands today it is both OR and violates NPOV. It needs to be re-written. It reads like a Ford press release.--Cerejota 20:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-03T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Cerejota","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cerejota-2006-11-03T20:41:00.000Z-Fuel_Tank","replies":["c-Sable232-2006-11-03T23:30:00.000Z-Cerejota-2006-11-03T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
Under the section Change of Canadian availability, there is a citation needed tag beside the sentence "The civilian Crown Victoria is only available when ordered as a fleet directly from Ford Motor Company of Canada, Limited and is not available through Ford dealerships." — I originally wrote that paragraph. The information is supported by two facts: 1- The Ford Motor Company of Canada, Limited website does not have the Ford Crown Victoria in its lineup of vehicles. Only the Ford Fleet of Canada website does. 2- I go to a local Ford dealership in my area (I live in Canada) regularly and update myself on information regarding their vehicles. The dealership I go to has verified that they do not sell new civilian Crown Victorias, nor does any other Ford dealership in Canada. Can this citation needed tag be removed or is this not enough confirmation? —S3BST3R 07:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-28T07:17:00.000Z","author":"S3bst3r","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-S3bst3r-2006-08-28T07:17:00.000Z-Citation_needed...?","replies":["c-S3bst3r-2006-09-18T02:30:00.000Z-S3bst3r-2006-08-28T07:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
I went to a Ford dealership maybe a year after Good Morning America covered a story about Crown Victoria fires. While I was there, I found what looked like a salesmens guide to all the models Ford makes, and included in the Crown Vic's section was a couple of pages about the Interceptor Package. If I remember correctly, the guide made some mention of the fuel tank 'problems' and it showed a diagram of the new fuel tank layout, which I guess is suppossed to fix the problem. It showed that instead of having one main tank, the fuel load was split into three or four smaller cylinderical tanks that were moved deeper into the body of the vehicle. I definently remember the diagram, and I seem to remember some mention that they were of a flexible rubber and not a rigid plastic. It was a good while ago and I wanted to take the binder but my conscence prevailed. Does anyone else knew anything about this, perhaps somebody who works or worked at a Ford plant or dealership? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SAWGunner89 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 13 November 2006
According to AutoWeek [2], a Mustang sedan and station wagon are reportedly in development for the 2011 model year. It will replace the aging Crown Victoria sedan as Ford's rear wheel drive full-size car. It will also underpin the next Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Town Car. So the D2C platform will replace the Panther body. -- Bull-Doser 15:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-13T15:57:00.000Z","author":"Bull-Doser","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bull-Doser-2006-12-13T15:57:00.000Z-Ford_Mustang_Sedan","replies":["c-Sable232-2006-12-13T16:32:00.000Z-Bull-Doser-2006-12-13T15:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Why is there a link to the "Center for Auto Safety" which was founded by Ralph Nader of all people (I would love to see that degree in mechanical engineering) who thinks that all cars are unsafe? 67.142.130.46 04:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-18T04:39:00.000Z","author":"67.142.130.46","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-67.142.130.46-2007-04-18T04:39:00.000Z-NPOV_Source","replies":[]}}-->
What about the Pontiac G8 ?? or Chrysler 300C ?? --144.137.207.45 23:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-19T23:33:00.000Z","author":"144.137.207.45","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-144.137.207.45-2007-04-19T23:33:00.000Z-Only_Dodge_Charger_as_a_option_for_cops_??","replies":["c-Sable232-2007-04-19T23:46:00.000Z-144.137.207.45-2007-04-19T23:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
No longer listed on the Ford Website. --MichaelGG 14:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-27T14:18:00.000Z","author":"MichaelGG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MichaelGG-2007-08-27T14:18:00.000Z-Discontinued?","replies":["c-Sable232-2007-08-27T16:03:00.000Z-MichaelGG-2007-08-27T14:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Detroit Free Press has an article here confirming the discontinuation: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071101/BUSINESS01/711010358 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.228.181.183 (talk) 22:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-05T22:53:00.000Z","author":"208.228.181.183","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-208.228.181.183-2007-12-05T22:53:00.000Z-Discontinued?","replies":["c-S3bst3r-2008-01-21T08:28:00.000Z-208.228.181.183-2007-12-05T22:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
The article states that the "Aero Vic" was a six-window car. The Aero Vic was an eight-window car, the 1998 facelift was six-window. If nobody objects, I'll make the change. 24.123.59.146 17:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-15T17:39:00.000Z","author":"24.123.59.146","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-24.123.59.146-2007-10-15T17:39:00.000Z-First-gen_\"Aero_Vic\"","replies":[]}}-->
I think the below section may need revision or citation: Since the exit of General Motors from rear-drive full-size cars with the Chevrolet Caprice, it has held a near-monopoly as a pursuit vehicle in North America, despite front wheel drive offerings such as the Chevrolet Impala. Only the new Dodge Charger is being seriously evaluated as a replacement at this time by police departments. <----- That last sentence seems dodgy. I think we need a cite for that. The Michigan State Police test a number of vehicles every year in their pursuit vehicle testing, and I regularly see Chevrolet Impala police cruisers in a number of major cities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.228.181.183 (talk) 15:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-03T15:17:00.000Z","author":"208.228.181.183","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-208.228.181.183-2007-12-03T15:17:00.000Z-Unsourced_statement_about_other_police_cars","replies":[]}}-->
Please, folks, don't let's debate over whether we should have a "Culture" section just because the Wikipedia guidelines say "Please don't" rather than "Do not". We can head off this argument if we can agree that while the section itself is discouraged, the information itself can be considered relevant to the discussion of the vehicle. So, let's do it up right and have have the info indexed and linked with one click. I've put the relevant link at the top of the "External Links" section. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 03:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-25T03:24:00.000Z","author":"Scheinwerfermann","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scheinwerfermann-2008-04-25T03:24:00.000Z-\"Culture\"_section","replies":["c-SteveBaker-2008-04-25T17:50:00.000Z-Scheinwerfermann-2008-04-25T03:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Ford Crown Victoria got replaced by Toyota Prius in New York city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.210.152.57 (talk) 09:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-22T09:00:00.000Z","author":"220.210.152.57","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-220.210.152.57-2009-08-22T09:00:00.000Z-replaced","replies":["c-Grk1011-2009-08-22T13:59:00.000Z-220.210.152.57-2009-08-22T09:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
Has anyone who has or works around 2006 Crown Victoria's Police vehicles had any problems with the transmission slipping while the vehicle is accelerating turning corners? Your responce and information would be a great help to this city service writer.
Thank You,
FTR
It has been confirmed that the plant in Ontario Canada is closing in Sep. 2011, therefore spelling the end of this model. I am updating the article to reflect this. If you disagree, please post here. Someone mentioned that as the car is still in production, it should still read "- present". I disagree. By putting "-2011" it is inferred that the vehicle is still in production, but will cease in 2011. What's more, it lets people reading the article know that the vehicle is going to be discontinued. By leaving it at 'present', it adds confusion.
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/719059--ford-to-close-st-thomas-assembly-plant
I am also updating the Grand Marquis and Towncar pages as well.
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I just noticed that there was an addition to the infobox that said the Crown Victoria is produced at Oakville Assembly (with a reference to a Ford website). Currently, I have to wonder if the Ford website used that name referred to its Ford LTD production there. In other words, perhaps additional references on the subject on potential continuation of production would be nice. --SteveCof00 (talk) 20:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T20:43:00.000Z","author":"SteveCof00","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCof00-2010-07-27T20:43:00.000Z-St._Thomas_Vs._Oakville","replies":["c-Sable232-2010-07-28T00:03:00.000Z-SteveCof00-2010-07-27T20:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've just made a few changes to the page layout that should make things easier to navigate; I also think that things are a bit better grouped together now (export-related things, the LWB and police car are grouped together in a section). However, as it is, there are some things that probably need some work.
Anyone else have any ideas? --SteveCof00 (talk) 08:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T08:58:00.000Z","author":"SteveCof00","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCof00-2010-07-17T08:58:00.000Z-Updating_the_page","replies":[]}}-->
Adding the year-by-year sales figures was a good idea, but I have a question: do those numbers include fleet/police car sales? I'm thinking it does, as the article itself gives a figure closer to 3000 in 2006 vs. the 62,000 in the table. Just a point of clarification.--SteveCof00 (talk) 05:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-13T05:11:00.000Z","author":"SteveCof00","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCof00-2010-09-13T05:11:00.000Z-Question_about_Sales_Figures","replies":[]}}-->
Can someone put in that the Crown Vics are available in Oz. I saw one today but i cant find a reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargabookofayr (talk • contribs) 08:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-30T08:55:00.000Z","author":"Gargabookofayr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gargabookofayr-2010-11-30T08:55:00.000Z-Australia","replies":[]}}-->
Can someone put that they are replacing NY Taxis with yellow Nissan vans —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.154.240.195 (talk) 11:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-04T11:38:00.000Z","author":"217.154.240.195","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-217.154.240.195-2011-05-04T11:38:00.000Z-NY_Taxis","replies":[]}}-->
As always, people are treating predictions and future planning as present fact.
As far as I can ascertain production of the Crown Victoria has not yet ended. It would be reasonable to assume that it will be all over every automotive news site when it does happen. There was a recent report that police agencies were making big orders for the last CVPIs so it stands to reason the production line is being kept open longer than planned; I've seen rumblings that the date is now mid-September.
At any rate, until a reliable source confirms the end of production, this article shouldn't say it's ended. --Sable232 (talk) 03:53, 2 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-02T03:53:00.000Z","author":"Sable232","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sable232-2011-09-02T03:53:00.000Z-Discontinuation","replies":["c-Vossanova-2011-09-02T16:47:00.000Z-Sable232-2011-09-02T03:53:00.000Z","c-Vossanova-2011-09-02T17:08:00.000Z-Sable232-2011-09-02T03:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
As mentioned above, the date no longer needs to be reverted (although I would suggest the use of a stable source for references). There are a couple of missing pieces of information that can eventually be added in: total production figures and the model year of the final car. This photo is of the window sticker of the final car; when enlarged, it shows 2012 as the model year. According to the source used for the St. Thomas factory article, the last cars (those built after August 2011) were all exported because they no longer met safety standards in the U.S. or Canada. I just want to make sure of this before adding something that is constantly reverted back and forth. --SteveCof00 (talk) 07:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-18T07:20:00.000Z","author":"SteveCof00","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCof00-2011-09-18T07:20:00.000Z-It's_ok_to_say_it_now","replies":["c-Vchimpanzee-2011-09-19T17:48:00.000Z-SteveCof00-2011-09-18T07:20:00.000Z","c-Vossanova-2011-09-19T18:50:00.000Z-SteveCof00-2011-09-18T07:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was about to revert the change to 2012 in the hatnote but I checked and the article does say there was a 2012 model year.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-28T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Vchimpanzee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vchimpanzee-2011-09-28T20:42:00.000Z-It's_ok_to_say_it_now","replies":[]}}-->
I came to the article to try to figure out what it is about this model vehicle that makes it so widely used for so long in fleet applications. It doesnt get good gas mileage, its oversized for a sedan, and I can't think of one good reason why it would of been picked for such wide use by police departments and cab companies almost everywhere. Can somebody please add a section that can explain the reasoning behind the choice, and near exclusivity it has/had acheived. Now that its finally been discontinued, agencies will be forced pick more sound alternatives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gawdsmak (talk • contribs) 05:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-26T05:40:00.000Z","author":"Gawdsmak","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gawdsmak-2012-04-26T05:40:00.000Z-Theres_nothing_in_the_article_about_why_this_model_vehicle_is_so_widely_used_in","replies":[]}}-->
For the most part, this has been explained already... --SteveCof00 (talk) 09:26, 30 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-30T09:26:00.000Z","author":"SteveCof00","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SteveCof00-2012-04-30T09:26:00.000Z-Theres_nothing_in_the_article_about_why_this_model_vehicle_is_so_widely_used_in","replies":[]}}-->
I uploaded my pictures to TinyPic, and I gave the links to Wikipedia. But they keep getting deleted. Is tinypic.com a scam? Should I use it for Wikipedia?
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Just like the Volvo S80, Chevy Impala, and Dodge Charger, this is a mid-size, not a full-size car.
111.2 cubic feet = a mid-sizer
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I think the Crown Victoria was a midsize premium car--comparing with the Buick LaCrosse, Hyundai XG, Chrysler 300C, Lexus ES & GS, Infiniti M, Cadillac CTS/DTS & STS, Acura TL & RL, BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Audi A6, Volvo S80, and Saab 9-5. The Taurus has been a full-size car since 2000. The pre-2000 Tauruses were no midsize--that was the Contour. The Taurus before 2000 was an upper-midsize car. --198.228.216.30 (talk) 06:06, 24 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T06:06:00.000Z","author":"198.228.216.30","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.228.216.30-2013-11-24T06:06:00.000Z-???","replies":[]}}-->
Oppose I'm not sure what the Taurus has to do with this request, but I'm going to have to go against considering going along with this edit request. In terms of marketing, the Crown Victoria was marketed more as a family car than a premium luxury car, with the vast majority going to fleet sales. While the similar Mercury Grand Marquis was marketed as a premium car, almost none of the cars above posed any competition in terms of size (aside from the Chrysler 300C), let alone price. The German and Japanese-built luxury cars on the list had list prices nearly TWICE as high as the Ford Crown Victoria as well. --SteveCof00 09:18, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Source: Motor Trend magazine. October 2009 issue --198.228.216.38 (talk) 17:19, 24 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T17:19:00.000Z","author":"198.228.216.38","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.228.216.38-2013-11-24T17:19:00.000Z-???","replies":[]}}-->
EDIT: Please excuse my IP. It's my cell phone automatically switching IPs. --198.228.216.38 (talk) 17:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T17:27:00.000Z","author":"198.228.216.38","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.228.216.38-2013-11-24T17:27:00.000Z-???","replies":[]}}-->
It is a 2009 Shelby Crown Victoria Concept. Can I mention the Shelby on the article? 166.137.208.39 (talk) 04:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-25T04:45:00.000Z","author":"166.137.208.39","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.137.208.39-2013-12-25T04:45:00.000Z-Found_a_rare_concept_version_on_Midnight_Club_Wikia","replies":[]}}-->
No, YOU SHOULD NOT. Not everybody knows a Shelby Crown Victoria. 119.252.27.68 (talk) 07:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-01T07:02:00.000Z","author":"119.252.27.68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-119.252.27.68-2014-01-01T07:02:00.000Z-Found_a_rare_concept_version_on_Midnight_Club_Wikia","replies":[]}}-->
Wasn't the Ford Panther platform based on Ford Australia's EA26 and EA169? The Crown Victoria might actually have been a LWB Falcon. --166.137.208.16 (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T20:58:00.000Z","author":"166.137.208.16","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.137.208.16-2013-12-29T20:58:00.000Z-Platform","replies":["c-SteveCof00-2013-12-30T06:51:00.000Z-166.137.208.16-2013-12-29T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
While assuming those platforms are all RWD, yes, it's not like you're relating a FWD car to a RWD one some awkward troll keeps claiming on. Heck, a Ford Fiesta doesn't even compare to a Smart Fortwo. 119.252.27.68 (talk) 07:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC). Edited by 119.252.27.68 (talk) 07:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-01T07:04:00.000Z","author":"119.252.27.68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-119.252.27.68-2014-01-01T07:04:00.000Z-Platform","replies":[]}}-->
The Tesla Model S is the one that succeeded the Crown Victoria, not the Taurus. Have half a million more people buy Teslas, and Tesla will be 10x the net worth of GM or Ford. Yeah, Teslas are expensive cars. 166.137.191.21 (talk) 04:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T04:13:00.000Z","author":"166.137.191.21","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.137.191.21-2013-12-30T04:13:00.000Z-Successor","replies":["c-SteveCof00-2013-12-30T07:09:00.000Z-166.137.191.21-2013-12-30T04:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
Tesla Model S is not a successor to the Ford Crown Victoria. 19:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altimgamr (talk • contribs)
Well, you could say that the fifth and sixth generation Taurus replaced the Crown Victoria, but no Taurus (except the SHO from the 90's) has ever been equipped with a V8, nor is any Taurus rear-wheel-drive. Those are called indirect replacements. The official, direct replacement will be called the Ford LTD. It will compete directly to the Chevy SS, with both coming standard with 6-speed automatic transmissions and V8 engines producing over 400 horsepower. The new LTD will replace both the already-discontinued Crown Vic and the currently-in-Australian-production Falcon. The LTD has been approved for production. The LTD's indirect competitors are the E-segment, rear-wheel-drive sedans in the 8-10 pounds per horsepower range (besides the SS). The SS already replaced GM's B-bodied cars, Pontiac's G8 sport sedan, and Buick's Lucerne flagship sedan. The new LTD will swift from 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and pass the quarter mile in 13 seconds. It has been approved for production and will cost not as cheap as the Chrysler 300 SRT8 Core, not as much as a Chevy SS, but in the middle. Altimgamr (talk) 23:03, 1 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-01T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Altimgamr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Altimgamr-2014-02-01T23:03:00.000Z-Direct_Repacement","replies":[]}}-->
By the way, the LTD and the fourth generation Lincoln Town Car will be built on the same platform as the 2015 Ford Mustang. Altimgamr (talk) 23:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-01T23:34:00.000Z","author":"Altimgamr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Altimgamr-2014-02-01T23:34:00.000Z-Direct_Repacement","replies":[]}}-->
The SRT8 Core costs MORE than the SS. But yes, let's hope that the LTD costs no more than $45,000. 174.141.208.117 (talk) 07:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-02T07:03:00.000Z","author":"174.141.208.117","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-174.141.208.117-2014-02-02T07:03:00.000Z-Direct_Repacement","replies":[]}}-->
IMO, Chevy is tough. But because Ford is focusing more on fuel economy, they told us that the LTD will not be approved for production. 166.137.208.42 (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-06T21:45:00.000Z","author":"166.137.208.42","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.137.208.42-2014-02-06T21:45:00.000Z-Direct_Repacement","replies":[]}}-->
Full-size I can understand the Crown Victoria competing with the Chrysler 300/300C/Dodge Charger, while the Chevy Impala/Buick LaCrosse/Pontiac Grand Prix/Bonneville/Oldsmobile Auora/Buick Lucerne, Hyundai Azera, and Toyota Avalon or fully-loaded Camry XLE V6 were/are FWD.
Near-luxury AOL Autos has the BMW 325 and Mercedes-Benz C-Class competing with the Ford Crown Victoria LX. 166.137.191.36 (talk) 04:11, 22 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-22T04:11:00.000Z","author":"166.137.191.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.137.191.36-2014-02-22T04:11:00.000Z-Full-size_or_near-luxury?","replies":["c-SteveCof00-2014-02-22T07:13:00.000Z-166.137.191.36-2014-02-22T04:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
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