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Piaggio-licensed Vespa production

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I noticed that there's no mention of the fact that, from 1960 to 1977, Bajaj was the Indian licensee of Piaggio's Vespas. These Indian-built Vespas were some of Bajaj's most popular models.

The expiration of the license was followed by patent infringement suits to block Bajaj from manufacturing Vespa clones. I believe the suits were primarily to prevent Bajaj from selling these Vespa clones outside of India (in Piaggio's target markets).

Sources: http://www.bajajusa.com/Is%20Bajaj%20an%20old%20Vespa.htm http://www.answers.com/topic/bajaj-auto-limited?cat=biz-fin http://nt.walletwatch.com/ascerc/History.asp?CompanyCode=10540002&companyname=Bajaj+Auto+Ltd.

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Three-Wheelers Information

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I'm seeing that there is no major information about three wheelers of Bajaj besides motorcycles. Also in the list of products page, no mention of the number of models of auto-rickshaws are there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunketh (talkcontribs) 22:35, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-07T22:35:00.000Z","author":"Sunketh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sunketh-2013-04-07T22:35:00.000Z-Three-Wheelers_Information","replies":[]}}-->

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Bajaj had produced 4 stroke variants built around its Chetak bodyframe long before the motorcycles and the same engine appeared in the unmentioned Bajaj Legend (1999) which bore strong resemblance to Vespa's MK1 T5 with a heavily modified headset and a 4 stroke engine.

I do believe that when Bajaj began to reorganise, that it ceded the Vespa derivative scooter market to LML who adopted the same 4 stroke engine across many of its production line and again before the Bajaj motorcycles in the citation. Bajaj agreed with LML that Bajaj would build motorcycles and LML would build Vespa type scooters and I believe Bajaj supply LML with parts like precision engineered parts and of course having the monopoly of motorcycle CDi systems by and large, utilised Bajaj electronic ignition systems. However this has changed since Bajaj's announcement of an electric Chetak.

The Bajaj Chetak range including the Chetak, the Chetak SL Classic which was a modernised version of the Chetak with electric start, electronic ignition, electronic charging control and legshield mounted indicators attached the famous Bajaj crucifix and indicators affixed to the rear side panels.

A very unusual addition to the standard SL was the very clever "anti-dive" brake/suspension on the front fork alleviating the age old problem of fork diving that Vespa's suffer from limiting the travel of the link bar when under heavy braking conditions. It also offered optional side saddle and footrest for the wife of the owner and several accessories allowing the carrying of children on carriers at rear or in between the steering and driver. Another variant of the Chetak was the Cub with several options such as removeable footrests and side step.

Before the Chetak was the Priya which was a slightly modified Vespa Sprint noted for the "volcano top" speedometers and heavier weight used by the company to combat the terrible road conditions in India which the standard Vespa sheet metal suffered badly with, most of the parts from the Priya were interchangeable with period Vespa's of that time and even earlier GS side panels fitted without issue highlighting the longevity of the Vespa originated tooling.

In the UK the Bajaj Chetak sold in small numbers and was quite popular as an oddity but also the ease in changing engine, front fork and headset and side panels to PX Vespa parts and common modifications was to remove the cruciform horncast and replace with a PX or T5 horncast from a Vespa or a LML NV imported cruciform horncast which had superior indicators, sidelights built into the indicator glass and a central driving lamp.

The UK imports were all registered as 125cc but it became a bit of an issue when it was revealed Bajaj didn't make anything but 150cc capacity engines, with a riser gasket the popular DR177 cylinder and piston kit could be fitted without need of any machining or upgrade to carburettor or exhaust giving an alleged 125cc "learner" scooter the same power and acceleration as a Vespa P200 and certainly able to reach 70mph or more.

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