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Hi, I've looked over your draft, and am pretty close to accepting it. I was just wondering about the title. It seems you've spelled the name in all-caps, as SOLARIS. Is this an acronym or some sort, or are the all-caps used just as a stylistic device, do you know? If it's the latter, then I'm proposing to title this article as 'Solaris SBSP' – any thoughts? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:11, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029061100","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20231029061100-Draft:Solaris_SBSP","replies":["c-Ennegma-20231029135800-DoubleGrazing-20231029061100"]}}-->
Hello @DoubleGrazing, and thank you for your rapid reviewing of this article! I was expecting to have to wait much longer.
For the name:
As far as I can tell, it is not an acronym, but all-capitals is simply the styling that ESA has chosen for the project. Is is written "SOLARIS" (not "Solaris") in ESA's own documents as well as other news/academic publications which I used as references in the article (for example in The Oxford Scientist, and in Scientific American).
Therefore I suggest that the title of the article be SOLARIS (all capitals) and a little notification at the top should be added that says "for other meanings of Solaris, see Solaris (disambiguation), and that this article should be added as yet another option in that disambiguation page. I think the title "Solaris SBSP" is not very obvious to a reader what they are about to read, so, if my preference "SOLARIS" is not technically possible, then as a second alternative what about "SOLARIS (Solar power)"? Ennegma (talk) 13:58, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029135800","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ennegma-20231029135800-DoubleGrazing-20231029061100","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20231029142200-Ennegma-20231029135800"]}}-->
Okay, thanks. I thought maybe it was one of these awkward non-acronym acronyms, standing for something like SOurcing pLentiful And Renewable energy In Space. :)
I believe Wikipedia doesn't allow all-caps names for anything other than acronyms, regardless of how the subject may wish to render its name. See eg. Hugo Boss. In any case, the search function is case-agnostic, so this shouldn't be too much of a problem.
I've already accepted the draft, as you probably saw, and it is now at Solaris SBSP. If it is decided that it should be moved elsewhere, than can always be done later. You way also wish to create redirects from some alternative names/renderings, which can be easily done using the redir wizard at WP:WIZR. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029142200","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20231029142200-Ennegma-20231029135800","replies":["c-Ennegma-20231029143200-DoubleGrazing-20231029142200"]}}-->
I would absolutely not be surprised if it is a bacronym, many science project names are, but I can't find anything to prove it. Given there is a policy against non-acronym capitalisation, could you please move the article to Solaris (Solar power) or Solaris (Space-based solar power) please? Ennegma (talk) 14:32, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029143200","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ennegma-20231029143200-DoubleGrazing-20231029142200","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20231029145200-Ennegma-20231029143200"]}}-->
Yeah, I couldn't find anything to suggest this, either. Interestingly, I did notice that the ESA on their website spell it alternately as SOLARIS or solaris.
I considered publishing it with 'space-based solar power' as the disambiguator, as 'SBSP' may not mean much to most readers, but I thought it would be too long. The rule of thumb is to use the shortest and simplest dab that does the job. I guess 'solar power' would be a suitable compromise, so I can certainly move it to that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:52, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029145200","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20231029145200-Ennegma-20231029143200","replies":["c-Ennegma-20231029151000-DoubleGrazing-20231029145200"]}}-->
Actually @DoubleGrazing I think I worked out how to do it myself! Thanks for your help. Ennegma (talk) 15:41, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231029154100","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Ennegma-20231029154100-Ennegma-20231029151000","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20231029155500-Ennegma-20231029154100"]}}-->
Hello User:DoubleGrazing, I have just submitted a new draft article - similar to the way I did with this "SOLARIS" article last year, that you reviewed - Draft:TRUTHS. I liked the way that you put my statement of professional connection into a box on the talk page, so I have done that directly myself this time on this talk page - Draft talk:TRUTHS. I hope that is correct.
Would you be willing to review the draft article please?
Like with SOLARIS, it might be appropriate to give this article its full title rather than the acronym. However, because of how long the full title is, it's very unlikely anyone would ever search for it that way. Therefore a redirect should be adjusted, because currently truths redirects to the article "truth".
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Hi user:Dan arndt - I see that you moved the draft page from "TRUTHS" to its full (official) title. Does that mean you also would like to review/approve it to be published under that title ("Traceable Radiometry Underpinning Terrestrial and Helio Studies")? If so - could we also please have a redirect from "Truths" (with the plural s) - as I mentioned in my message to DoubleGrazing here above, because that is the title that anyone would actually use to search for the article about this satellite? Ennegma (talk) 11:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240617115800","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ennegma-20240617115800-Ennegma-20240616153700","replies":[]}}-->
Hi Ennegma,
I (for one) don't normally do on-demand reviews, but as this seems quite an easy one, I'll accept it shortly.
And yes, you have correctly disclosed your COI on the talk page, thank you for doing that.
As for alternative titles, just to note that Truths and TRUTHS are actually different, as page titles are case-sensitive (apart from the first character; Truths and truths are therefore the same thing). It could be difficult to get Truths pointing to this article, in fact I'd say it's probably not even worth proposing that, but TRUTHS could and should certainly be a redirect.
HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618102400","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20240618102400-Ennegma-20240616153700","replies":["c-Ennegma-20240618110000-DoubleGrazing-20240618102400"]}}-->
Thank you @DoubleGrazing. I have now created a redirect from "TRUTHS", and added it to the "Truth (Disambiguation)" page. Ennegma (talk) 11:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618110000","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ennegma-20240618110000-DoubleGrazing-20240618102400","replies":[]}}-->
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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kerissa Khan. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240323173300","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20240323173300-AfC_notification:_Draft:Kerissa_Khan_has_a_new_comment","replies":[]}}-->
hello user:Theroadislong. I have replied to your comment on my draft article and removed the links you suggested. Can the draft be moved to become an article now? Ennegma (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240326153300","author":"Ennegma","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ennegma-20240326153300-AfC_notification:_Draft:Kerissa_Khan_has_a_new_comment","replies":[]}}-->
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