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Hi, just poking in because I noticed some of your reverts, like [1], don't have corresponding warnings on talk pages (something something {{uw-warn}}). FifthFive (talk) 23:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another example [2]. I've gone ahead and added it myself.. FifthFive (talk) 18:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And again [3]. Can you please give out warning templates more consistently? Thanks, FifthFive (talk) 01:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And again :/ [4] FifthFive (talk) 22:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) You will find that many old timers do not use these warning templates on IPS for clear vandalism or on those that have been blocked.Moxy🍁 22:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for letting me know. FifthFive (talk) 22:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WARNVAND does state that users should be warned for each and every instance of vandalism and I've been told by administrators (Swarm) that leaving the templated warnings are a quote "basic expectation" and that it's never ok to not leave a warning. Is this not true? I recall a case where after a revert by Discospinster, an IP re-added their edits as they hadn't any idea of their mistake, causing more work for another editor to again revert the edits, where then I had to revert the revert as the original edit by the IP turned out to be correct in the first place. All of these unnecessary steps could have been avoided by a simple note after the first revert. -- Cosmic6811 🍁 (T · C) 05:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it says users should be warned, not that they must be warned. Also that bit was added after I became an admin. ... discospinster _talk 14:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, I've brought the same thing up twice now on this talk page and have never received a response -- Cosmic6811 🍁 (T · C) 05:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @FifthFive:.... At Preferences → Gadgets → there is an option to strike out usernames that have been blocked this will allow you to see who's been blocked so you don't have to waste your time with warnings or to simply see what's going on. As a wonderful vandalism fighter you may find a useful visual indicator.Moxy🍁 01:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to mean that jeff [stelling] is the president, i cant change it for some reason. its gives me a error message. thx @Discospinster hi (talk) 19:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's because there isn't a parameter called "president" for the infobox. ... discospinster _talk 22:37, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, they've re-added copyvios (nevermind the edit warring) after the warnings on their talk page. I've reverted and tagged for RD1, but a block might be needed to stop the disruption. Thanks, Giraffer (talk) 19:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]

my brother in christ Jun Kung died but the source is on Tor, I can't link a Tor .onion link on WP can I

You need to include a reliable source. ... discospinster _talk 22:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi discospinster,

I have noticed this particular rollback may be better tagged as violating Wikipedia's NPOV policy as it seems more apt in its context? as the reason for it? nevertheless I have advised the new wiki editor about it, as it seems in good faith. Cheers!

(Reverted edits by Luv.georgia8888 (talk): not providing a reliable source (WP:CITE, WP:RS) (HG) (3.4.12) undothank Tags: Huggle Rollback) Villkomoses (talk) 01:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Either is applicable. ... discospinster _talk 01:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look a little earlier in the page history (this), the one you reverted is quite likely someone evading a global lock. – 2804:F1...8F:2569 (::/32) (talk) 17:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, I have blocked the user. ... discospinster _talk 17:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had a question on two sources I found updating the notability of this article on Ammad Quraishi. One source seems to be a blog/newsletter entry by the subject from about two years ago referring to his identity and the precise notability claim. Not sure if it can be referenced. The other source is from a national organization that verifies the claim in an archived link (on archive.org) that has redirect issues. The primary link works, but the entry where it is sublinked is either a dead link or just not loading. Should I add these links and then refer to them on the talk page or in the AfD thread? Or do you recommend an alternative? Seeking guidance, BernieBruh (talk) 04:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could add it to the AfD thread, and other editors will check it or try to find a working link. ... discospinster _talk 18:31, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are multiple extended descriptions of his life and work in at least three T.Rex/Bolan books cited in his Wikipedia article that constitute RS in themselves. Therefore I have reinstated his article.

I suspect the same is true of Steve Currie although in fairness none were cited in that article. I am withholding restoring Currie's article for the time being until I have reviewed these sources for similar content.Romomusicfan (talk) 11:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have left a note explaining this in full on Bill Legend's talk page.Romomusicfan (talk) 12:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an employee of the Food Bank and I'm trying to update the outdated information on this page. What do i need to do to make this possible without it being changed back? 38.65.196.164 (talk) 20:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to update the facts, go ahead, but you can't write it in a promotional way. ... discospinster _talk 20:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is being flagged as promotional so I can correct it?

For example,

• For over 40 years, Northern Illinois Food Bank has been dedicated to solving hunger and empowering neighbors.

• A 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization and proud member of Feeding America, they serve their neighbors in 13 counties in suburban and rural Northern Illinois with dignity, equity and convenience,

... discospinster _talk 21:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey man, I'm adding sources and cites to the article but you keep changing things while I do so. Please take it easy, I need some more time HuilWerner91 (talk) 03:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add the sources before you publish the article. ... discospinster _talk 03:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why is my addition to North Payments being blocked? I used direct source material - the consumer review site Trustpilot and the Better Business Bureau website. Mathew Helman (talk) 19:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because Wikipedia is not the place to air individuals' beefs with the company. If there was a reliable secondary source, like a news article, that discusses the problems with customer service, then that might be appropriate. ... discospinster _talk 21:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you are removing factual information from Airspan Networks page? a simple search shows the information I added is factual, yet you seem determined not to allow this fact to be present Comsidering a 5 second search in Google shows you the information I added is correct I would be interested in understanding why you seem to want to hide facts https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230811478537/en/Airspan-Networks-Holdings-Inc.-Announces-Closing-of-Mimosa-Sale-to-Reliance-Jio-and-Financing-Transactions GMriane (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I am the one who changed the date of the release of Ommadawn album of Mike Oldfield. I have been the biggest collector aobut him and own about 7000 items. I have the largest magazines, clippings, articles etc collection in the world. I lived a few days where he recorded this album. If you need more info, contact me please. Regards Yannick 81.13.237.141 (talk) 17:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK but it's not a matter of me believing you. The article needs to have a reliable source showing that the album was released on that date. ... discospinster _talk 17:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me your source saying Ommadawn was released in November 1975? Thanks Yannick 81.13.237.141 (talk) 18:35, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is linked in the article. ... discospinster _talk 18:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide you anything you need regarding the date but i don't know how to do it. How to send photos ? 81.13.237.141 (talk) 18:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it's a newspaper article you can just give the newspaper and the date the article was published. ... discospinster _talk 18:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have many many things but they are screenshots or photos. My collection about mike oldfield contains about 7000 items. I helped people writing articles in magazines over Europe and books worldwide. Every day, I receive emails from fans over the worldwide asking me questions about oldfield. Let me know how I can send you the photos please Thank you. Yannick 81.13.237.141 (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our website not spam, its useful information please : https://www.ongurpartners.com/arbitration-in-turkey.html 95.70.147.96 (talk) 21:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is intended to bring customers to your business. ... discospinster _talk 21:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you undo my edits to the article Maria Branyas on 30 November? They had no source but all news websites mentioned what I mentioned, and she said what I said on Twitter/X. I did not put sources because I was not sure which news website to choose for source. Please don't be rude to me. I did not link the article to olive oil or place quotation marks before or after ''toxic people'' because I forgot and I'm sorry. 86.120.179.214 (talk) 12:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could have used any source but you didn't, that's why I removed it. ... discospinster _talk 16:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this adequate to unblock Adamu Abubakar Sadiq (talk · contribs). Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:50, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user has not contributed constructively at all, so this vague (and likely AI generated) request to be unblocked is not convincing for me. ... discospinster _talk 00:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. User is slouching toward a decline.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

most recent is still a little vague but better. I will likely restore talk page access and hope for the best.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw that you blocked User:2604:3D09:AE84:5900:7142:2423:2E5C:19EB for vandalism, but vandal had switched to User:2604:3D09:AE84:5900:9CBF:1988:8387:4D10 and reverted your edit once again. Please block that IP. MimirIsSmart (talk) 05:16, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've protected the article just to be sure. ... discospinster _talk 14:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I accidentally pasted some text immediately after you made an edit on Giuseppina De Muro. Apologies! Please check and make sure it's okay. Fortunaa (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but I re-did the edit. ... discospinster _talk 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for understanding. Fortunaa (talk) 00:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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		This is your final warning. If you continue to revert vandalism before me.. Actually, I'm not sure what I'd do. Thanks for helping us keep Wikipedia clean! / RemoveRedSky (t) 15:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The event in Manhattan should be listed on the 12/4 page because people are using "12/4" to refer to it, and it would be good if people who looked it up knew what people were talking about. Farisa's Fire (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just because some people are referring to it that way doesn't mean it belongs on the page. If reliable sources start regularly referring to it that way such as they do with 9/11, then it could go on the disambiguation page. ... discospinster _talk 19:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mykola Leontovych was an ethnic Ukrainian, not Russian. Yes, he was born in the Russian Empire, but naturally it was composed of many different ethnicities including Ukrainians.

He was born in the Podolia Governorate of the Russian Empire to ethnic Ukrainian parents. So please stop changing his ethnicity to Russian and flagging people for vandalism for correcting your mistake. 213.226.141.118 (talk) 15:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence of an article does not indicate the subject's ethnicity, it is for nationality (i.e. the country that they are from): "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for that which made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable." Since he was born in the Russian Empire and became notable while living there, he would be described as Russian. ... discospinster _talk 19:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, why did you revert my changes in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursona? Edit: thank you, I can't reply for some reason2A02:A312:C598:8380:FF33:1403:B84D:EE5A (talk) 21:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That one was an error. I have replaced it. ... discospinster _talk 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your cooments on my talk page. Please see your DIFF. So you suggesting me (by discussing these issues) to violate undertakings by Wikimedia given to Indian court of this judge as recorded in the first artycle of english wikipadia taken down by court order ? The "deleted" artycle is still accessible from WMF server so I quote for you from it On 14 October, a bench – comprising justices Manmohan and Tushar Rao Gedela – heard the appeal; they said that Wikipedia's portrayal of ANI was potentially defamatory, and hence, must be defended by the editors in question.[24][27] They also characterized Wikipedia's refusal to divulge the identifying details as "extremely disturbing", and warned that WMF would lose its protection under the Safe Harbor Act shall it choose to defend the allegations of defamation.[26][28][27] The judges further objected to the creation of an English Wikipedia article about the defamation case, alleging interference with "a sub-judice matter" and took particular umbrage at the article mentioning criticism of Chawla's order.[26][29] Later that week, the court passed an order directing all "pages on Wikipedia pertaining to the single judge [Chawla] as well as discussion of the observations of division bench [Manmohan and Gedela]" to be "taken down or deleted within 36 hours".[30][31][32] On 18 October, ANI asked the court to seek contempt proceedings against the WMF, since the 36-hour deadline had not been complied with.[33] As an administrator/sysop you can verify this QUOTE text is accuret and exact, and it said "..all.." pages... You are a senior sysop with many edits, so please canduct per the Universal Code and using terms first and Wp local rules second.. To avoid mis-communications, WP editors operate under terms of the WMF first and after that rule of local wikis. WMF terms supersede those of any wiki.Dmitri2025 (talk) 20:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If WMF's lawyers say that the information has to be removed, then it will be removed. Until then, it is cited relevant content that will stay in the article. ... discospinster _talk 23:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have just started using Huggle two days ago. I would like to ask if it is possible to program a delay between when an edit is reverted and when a user is warned about vandalism on their talk page if you press Q. Thanks. Cyrobyte (talk) 02:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the nuts and bolts of Huggle, you might want to ask your question at Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback. If you go to System > Options > Warnings there is an option to confirm a warning if the user got one not long before. ... discospinster _talk 02:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had to make the History section a sub-heading for the Background heading in the Walt Disney Classics page, but why did you change it back? 2601:1C1:837F:EFE0:F90E:F354:7336:544 (talk) 20:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because the History section of an article is generally its own section, not a sub-section. ... discospinster _talk 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

imply the norm ...see WP:SECTIONLEVELS.Moxy🍁 20

44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, it doesn't make sense if the History section of an article isn't the sub-heading for the Background heading section, and that's what I hate.

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Daniel Dubois: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Not sure why you didn't place one, but I've gone ahead and issued a warning template to the user in question (there was already a note from a previous revert). Cheers. – Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 01:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So much for not templating the regulars.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's OK, not everyone knows me! ... discospinster _talk 02:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd've asked you if you'd heard the Good News about TWINKLE.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra: Is there a rule against using templates on 'regulars' or something? I did notice that their account is 20 years old and they must be quite active, judging by the talk page, but I didn't think it would preclude the use of a template. It's concise and gets the message across. I did consider there might have been a reason or such for it, which is why I added the custom personal message at the end instead of just calling it a day.
–Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yutah123:It's an essay, Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars 😜 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra: Hmm, makes sense as a guideline. I do however genuinely believe that in this case {{Template:Uw-warn}} fits just right, and I added enough personal touch. I'm pretty slow at typing up messages, so they help me a lot, and getting back to patrolling recent changes faster is a plus. In any case, fhanks for sharing.
– Yutah¹²³|UPage|(talk)✶ 09:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have essential tremors, and could not function without templates for some things.

It's OK everyone, no offense taken! ... discospinster _talk 16:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jkb Robot 295.07 (talk) 18:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was inappropriate for an encyclopedia. ... discospinster _talk 18:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, i'm Erik, and i want to talk about some things about Prager U kids EDZR212006 (talk) 23:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can say that it's an encyclopedia article, not a place to add comments or try to 'debunk' what reliable sources have said about PragerU Kids. ... discospinster _talk 23:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to talk you about the debate, but i can't respond because i'm new editing wikipedia, help me please EDZR212006 (talk) 23:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not the place to debate on the topic. If you have concerns about bias, bring it up on the article's talk page: Talk:PragerU Kids. ... discospinster _talk 23:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries! I understand completely. The academic infobox is definitely more appropriate than the officeholder one in this case. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 01:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a legible answer 2409:40E0:103D:6D15:74A6:922F:DB09:1699 (talk) 04:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:BLP for the policy about changing information about living persons. (You need a source.) ... discospinster _talk 22:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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