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Hi discospinster,

Following up on the earlier Scanlan flag. Thanks for letting me know! I am helping Scanlan create the page - since it’s been a significant company in its community for almost 100 years, having a simple page with an overview of its history and function is important.

I completely understand concerns around making entries biased or promotional, so I would welcome any edits to the site to make it better for Wikipedia users. Would you recommend re-editing in the Sandbox? Again, the primary purpose is to inform of the company’s existence, not to market any products.

Apologies for the oversight, and thanks again for the heads up!

Bold North (talk) 19:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)Bold North__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-09T19:38:00.000Z","author":"Bold North","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bold_North-2019-10-09T19:38:00.000Z-Scanlan_follow_up","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-10-09T19:57:00.000Z-Bold_North-2019-10-09T19:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, thanks for the note. It would be a good idea to use the Articles for Creation process, so you can get feedback before it goes "live". When writing about companies you want to avoid any hint of promotion. This can occur in ways you might not expect; for example, if you talk about how the company's profits have increased over time, even if it's a fact with citations, it could look like you are "bragging". Focus on facts and neutrality, and especially finding reliable sources that talk about the company in a significant way (i.e. not just mentioning the company or run-of-the-mill announcements) to show that it's notable. It doesn't have to be something online, it could be a newspaper article or trade magazine that's in print. Some guidelines for notability are at WP:CORP. ... discospinster _talk 19:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-09T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-10-09T19:57:00.000Z-Bold_North-2019-10-09T19:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Could you please tell me, what is unbalanced at Seda Basay-Yildiz, so I can do something about it.. Thanks --87.150.97.13 (talk) 09:07, 15 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-15T09:07:00.000Z","author":"87.150.97.13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.150.97.13-2019-10-15T09:07:00.000Z-Seda_Basay-Yildiz","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-10-15T13:21:00.000Z-87.150.97.13-2019-10-15T09:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

The article relies on what seems to be the author's impression of the events, rather than backing it up with reliable sources as to the facts. For example, Yildiz noted that this information could not be obtained via social media. Her father is 79 and does not use Facebook. According to the daily newspaper, the fax was received by Ba'ay-Yaldz on 20 December 2018 – one day after a special meeting of the Hessian Committee on the Interior on the police scandal. "There can be no other way than the police computer," Yildiz said. The police offered to obtain her a firearms licence. This is not cited and looks like you are encouraging the reader to come to a certain conclusion. ... discospinster _talk 13:21, 15 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-15T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-10-15T13:21:00.000Z-87.150.97.13-2019-10-15T09:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Outdoor-Bro-2019-10-16T08:47:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-10-15T13:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you for your explanation. I see your point and I work on it. Maybe it is better, not to cite Basay-Yildiz in direct speech. I will work on it and come back to you. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 08:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-16T08:47:00.000Z","author":"Outdoor-Bro","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Outdoor-Bro-2019-10-16T08:47:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-10-15T13:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I pinged you in the above discussion because I had a question regarding your speedy deletion of a couple redirects involved there. I see you have edited since then, so I thought I'd drop you a note here in case you have turned pings off. Thanks! -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:50, 15 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-15T16:50:00.000Z","author":"Tavix","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tavix-2019-10-15T16:50:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion\/Log\/2019_October_11#Th\u1ea1ch_Ph\u00fac","replies":[]}}-->

Having gone though the article Bobby Craig, I realized he has notable source but the writer wrote it inappropriate. I write to keep the page and make the necessary edit to make it to wikipedia standard and its policy.

OK but since it's in the middle of the AfD process, it can't be moved to draft right now. You can still work on it in the meantime. ... discospinster _talk 23:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-24T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-10-24T23:03:00.000Z-Page_Deletion","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Discospinster Appreciate very much your initial review of the Benjamin Gordon entry. The orphan issue has been removed but I wonder if you would check it again to see if the citations are now adequate and consistently authoritative, and the tone consistently objective. I provided good sources for each of the "lacking citations" instances you found. I also restructured and added a bit to make the entry less resume-like. Let me know what you think. Many thanks Richard Rkoret (talk) 06:35, 25 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-25T06:35:00.000Z","author":"Rkoret","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rkoret-2019-10-25T06:35:00.000Z-Would_you_re-review_Benjamin_Gordon_(businessman)_please","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, I think I must have been editing the article when you moved it to draft-space and somehow recreated it. Could you delete it again please? Hughesdarren (talk) 21:30, 29 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-29T21:30:00.000Z","author":"Hughesdarren","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:30:00.000Z-Arif_Hossain","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:35:00.000Z-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK I will move the new version into draft. ... discospinster _talk 21:35, 29 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-29T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:35:00.000Z-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:36:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry about that I wanted to fix the reference etc.. but it certainly isn't ready for mainspace. Keep up the good work! Hughesdarren (talk) 21:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-29T21:36:00.000Z","author":"Hughesdarren","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:36:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:38:00.000Z-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, you too. ... discospinster _talk 21:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-29T21:38:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-10-29T21:38:00.000Z-Hughesdarren-2019-10-29T21:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

A tag has been placed on Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Denise Sohn requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Can you review Rakesh Sethi (chef) which you recently moved?— Harshil ^{want to talk?} 15:41, 7 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-07T15:41:00.000Z","author":"Harshil169","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harshil169-2019-11-07T15:41:00.000Z-Can_you_review_page_which_you_just_moved?","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-07T20:44:00.000Z-Harshil169-2019-11-07T15:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Harshil"}}-->

It looks OK to me, it shows how he's notable and has supporting references. ... discospinster _talk 20:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-07T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-07T20:44:00.000Z-Harshil169-2019-11-07T15:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Discospinster, Thanks for reviewing the article I wrote earlier on Peaness. I have added some new sections with further independent references, so I hope this now meets notability guidelines. I didn't want to remove the banner you placed on the article myself, so if you get a chance could you have another look please? Turner Street (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-07T15:44:00.000Z","author":"Turner Street","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Turner_Street-2019-11-07T15:44:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-07T20:45:00.000Z-Turner_Street-2019-11-07T15:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's better now, showing notability with significant discussion of the band. ... discospinster _talk 20:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-07T20:45:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-07T20:45:00.000Z-Turner_Street-2019-11-07T15:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Discospinster,

I saw you moved 2019 Canadian federal election/Policies sandbox to User:Walter Görlitz/2019 Canadian federal election/Policies sandbox, but since it was actually MikkelJSmith and another editor (or perhaps two others) that were editing that table, I'm wondering if a more appropriate userspace might be at User:MikkelJSmith/2019 Canadian federal election/Policies sandbox? Just so other users aren't playing in another user's sandbox, if you get what I mean. I'd move it myself, but don't have page mover rights to suppress the redirect.

Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 03:07, 10 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-10T03:07:00.000Z","author":"Dmehus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dmehus-2019-11-10T03:07:00.000Z-User:Walter_G\u00f6rlitz\/2019_Canadian_federal_election\/Policies_sandbox","replies":["c-MikkelJSmith-2019-11-10T17:22:00.000Z-Dmehus-2019-11-10T03:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Doug Mehus"}}-->

I would second that, since I'm the one who mostly works on that table. - MikkelJSmith (talk) 17:22, 10 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-10T17:22:00.000Z","author":"MikkelJSmith","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MikkelJSmith-2019-11-10T17:22:00.000Z-Dmehus-2019-11-10T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-10T19:41:00.000Z-MikkelJSmith-2019-11-10T17:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've moved it to User:MikkelJSmith/2019 Canadian federal election/Policies sandbox. ... discospinster _talk 19:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-10T19:41:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-10T19:41:00.000Z-MikkelJSmith-2019-11-10T17:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Good afternoon Discospinster,

Thank you for your edits of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_G._Duque which I published yesterday. This is my first publication and appreciate your support and guidance.

You left a note that this article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. (November 2019).

I have attempted to remediate this issue and added inline citations within the body of the text. At your convenience please review and advise if the changes are appropriate and have been remediated.

I am still working on the separate notability guidelines issue you notated.

Best regards,

CE

Yes, thanks, that fixed the issue. I just removed the duplicate references from the end of the page. ... discospinster _talk 19:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-12T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-12T19:14:00.000Z-Edits_for_further_Review","replies":[]}}-->

Hi guy, I attempted to translate the page cited above. Aspirin' a feedback.

Regards;

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Hello, you did remove on the page Protected intersection a link I set about the software 'protected crossing' which have precisely as UNIQUE purpose to design protected intersections. In addition, the schematics on the page were based upon the output of this software. Shall these schematics also be removed ? I don't see in what the link is 'inappropriate', being exactly on topic. I should have set this link in a paragraph 'external link' and that was a mistake, but why remove the link instead of creating the appropriate paragraph? I don't get it. Disclaimer: I am the author of this software and also the authour of miscellaneous modifications and cleanups on this page, including the creation and addition of the schematics. PRZ (talk) 09:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T09:34:00.000Z","author":"PRZ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PRZ-2019-11-14T09:34:00.000Z-Removal_of_link_in_the_page_'protected_intersection'","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-14T13:38:00.000Z-PRZ-2019-11-14T09:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wikipedia does not allow promotion of goods and services on its site. ... discospinster _talk 13:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T13:38:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-14T13:38:00.000Z-PRZ-2019-11-14T09:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-PRZ-2019-11-14T17:53:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-14T13:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Doesn't make sense either, this is free software and doc (GPL & CC BY-SA), I don't sell anything material or service, there is zero publicity on all my publications since on the Internet, zero trade in service, link or anything. Never get a cent from Internet since 15 years. Did you check anything before making this sort of affirmation? Since when reference to free software was banned from Wikipedia ? Again I really don't get it. That goes against what I've seen here from long PRZ (talk) 17:53, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T17:53:00.000Z","author":"PRZ","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PRZ-2019-11-14T17:53:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-14T13:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

You fixed the layout on this page previously and I was wondering if you could lend a hand in making the episode list fit in the space to the left of the infobox. Currently, it's sits below the infobox, while the title "episdoes" remains at the top. Any help is much appreciated! Hidden Hills Editor (talk) 16:20, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z","author":"Hidden Hills Editor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z-My_Suicide_Story","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-14T16:32:00.000Z-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z","c-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:36:00.000Z-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not that great with tables, but I don't see a way to do that with the {{Episode table}} template. You can do it with a regular table by making it "floating" but then you would have to also format it to look like an episode table. Maybe you could ask at Template talk:Episode table about it? There might be a way I'm not aware of. ... discospinster _talk 16:32, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T16:32:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-14T16:32:00.000Z-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Got it, going to post there and see if someone can help. Thanks a bunch! Hidden Hills Editor (talk) 16:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-14T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Hidden Hills Editor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:36:00.000Z-Hidden_Hills_Editor-2019-11-14T16:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Good afternoon Discospinster,

Thank you for your page edits and continued support and guidance on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_G._Duque as I learn and become acclimated to becoming a wiki contributor.

This is in response to the Notability Flag mentioned which states -

"The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. Please help to establish notability by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention."

I understand that the guideline calls for 2 reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic. I have included reference citations to MuscularDevelopment.com as well as the NPCNewsOneline.com to meet this requirement. Each page points to Carlos' historical competitive history appearances with key stats and placements, as well as achievements earned for IFBB.

The specific text in the Carlos G. Duque page as been updated as follows under the BodyBuilding history header:

Carlos has been featured in many fitness websites including the American fitness and bodybuilding magazine MuscularDevelopment.com[14] and the National Physique Committee's premier online news command center - NPCnewsonline.com [15]

As evidence to prove the validity of these two secondary sources, I have provided the summaries of these two cited outlets below for your consideration. Kindly remove the Notability flag if you concur:

Muscular Development

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Muscular Development is an American fitness and bodybuilding magazine first published in 1964. It was founded by Bob Hoffman 1898 - 1985 Bob Hoffman - athlete, nutritionist, weightlifter, coach and philanthropist - was born on a farm in Tifton, Georgia on Nov 9th 1898. His family stock was good. Bob was never the seven stone weakling claimed by other physical culturists. His father was a large strong man who liked to demonstrate the hardness of his tensed muscles. Given this it his easy to see how Bob was influenced in his formative years. When Bob was 5 years old the family moved to Wilkinsburg near Pittsburgh where his athletic career started from a very young age. He was an exceptional athlete especially in aquatic sports - his favorite being canoeing. The First World War saw Bob as a hero. He gained 3 Croix de Guerres with two palms and a Silver Star from France. From Belgium he was awarded The Belgian Order of Leopold and from Italy the Italian War Cross and the Purple Heart. His business started in the 1920s, at first selling oil burners, before developing into the massive York Barbell Company. Bob Hoffman, never a great coach or great weightlifter, was a man who influenced and guided weightlifting and bodybuilding for half a century. He died on July 18th 1985 suffering heart disease and dementia. The owner and founder of the York Barbell Company, its editor from 1964 to its sale in 1986 was John Grimek. [1] MD, as it's known to many of its readers, was previously owned by Twinlab. In 2001 Twinlab sold Muscular Development to Steve Blechman who then resigned from Twinlab.[2] Muscular Development is also currently published in Romania.[1] Muscular Development focuses on bodybuilding and nutrition science. Among its current or past contributors are Michael Colgan, John Romano, Dan Duchaine, and Mike Mentzer. It was notable for including an ongoing comic strip, Max Rep: Mr. Astrotitan 2206 by illustrator Lyman Dally in the 90's. Max Rep and Quadra Blu were even once featured on the cover. After the sale of the magazine to Blechman it changed to a more "hard-core" bodybuilding magazine and focused less on fitness.[2]

From <http://www.musculardevelopment.com/about.html>

NPCNewsOnline.com

NPC NEWS ONLINE is the command center for everything NPC. We are the official website for the National Physique Committee. The NPC is comprised of tens of thousands of competitors and hundreds of live events, we are the premier amateur physique organization in the world.

The National Physique Committee is the premier amateur physique organization in the world. Since 1982, the top athletes in bodybuilding, fitness, figure, bikini and physique have started their careers in the NPC. Many of those athletes graduated to successful careers in the IFBB Professional League, a list that includes 25 Olympia and 40 Arnold Classic winners.

NPC athletes are regularly featured in and on the covers of international publications such as Muscle & Fitness and Muscle & Fitness Hers, Muscular Development and Fitness Rx for Women. The Men’s Physique and Women’s Bikini Divisions have launched the NPC into the mainstream. Our NPC competitors in these divisions can be seen in national magazines, ad campaigns, etc. Plus, it is not uncommon to see major professional athletes and A-list celebrities such as Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson appearing at our events.

From <http://npcnewsonline.com/about/>

National Physique Committee

The National Physique Committee (NPC) is the largest amateur bodybuilding organization in the United States. Amateur bodybuilders compete in competitions from local to national competitions sanctioned by the NPC. One amateur organization per country is recognized by the International Federation of BodyBuilders (IFBB), which claims to be bodybuilding's international organization and the IFBB recognizes the NPC as its amateur extension for the United States. Advanced athletes can progress as professionals and join the IFBB Professional League. In order to become an IFBB professional bodybuilder in the United States a class must first be won at the NPC Nationals Championship or be the overall winner at the NPC USA Championship. However, there are other organizations and federations in the US that also promote amateur athletics and have a professional extension. While the NPC and the IFBB are the largest and most well known, there are other amateur and professional bodybuilding organizations and federations. The NPC also sanctions bodybuilding fitness and figure competitions across the United States.

From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Physique_Committee>

Hi, sources are added to page but Already the page have in Other Languages Enes bi (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-15T20:18:00.000Z","author":"Enes bi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Enes_bi-2019-11-15T20:18:00.000Z-Draft","replies":[]}}-->

Thank You Bro... For Supporting wikipedia Page of Bobby da, Regards , Akashdeep BJP Bengal Team Humabvphain (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-16T18:10:00.000Z","author":"Humabvphain","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Humabvphain-2019-11-16T18:10:00.000Z-Abhijit_Das_Page","replies":[]}}-->

This is on my watchlist from some edits way back... a version with several book sources seems to have been lost in the course of a lot of recent change I can't quite follow, but which you've been involved with most recently. Could you check that the work in this version is not lost. There seems to have been an odd edit here by an editor with very little constructive editing in their contributions list - CIR or something else? PamD 16:03, 17 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-17T16:03:00.000Z","author":"PamD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PamD-2019-11-17T16:03:00.000Z-Grandy_King_George","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-17T16:08:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pam"}}-->

The recent edit was actually an attempt by the editor to create a mainspace article. I moved it to draft and then merged the history of the two versions of the draft. The sourced version of the draft is still there, it will always be retrievable. ... discospinster _talk 16:08, 17 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-17T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-17T16:08:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-PamD-2019-11-17T16:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-17T16:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

So can we please now revert to the version of 31 October, with sources and image? PamD 16:35, 17 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-17T16:35:00.000Z","author":"PamD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PamD-2019-11-17T16:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-17T16:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-PamD-2019-11-17T16:36:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pam"}}-->

It was a different editor who tried to create it in mainspace, so I don't see why the original editor's work should be blanked. PamD 16:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-17T16:36:00.000Z","author":"PamD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-PamD-2019-11-17T16:36:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-17T19:40:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pam"}}-->

All the history is still there so you can revert it if you want to. ... discospinster _talk 19:40, 17 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-17T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-17T19:40:00.000Z-PamD-2019-11-17T16:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Why "P. Rajesh" over "Rajesh a/l Perumal"? And why remove the redirect? ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 16:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-18T16:52:00.000Z","author":"WikiWarrior9919","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-18T16:52:00.000Z-Clarification_requested_for_the_motive_of_your_page_move","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-18T17:00:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-18T16:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c9\u03b9\u03ba\u03b9\u03c9\u03b1rr\u03b9or"}}-->

Why was it moved in the first place? The source calls him P. Rajesh so where does Rajesh a/l Perumal come from? ... discospinster _talk 17:00, 18 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-18T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-18T17:00:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-18T16:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-20T12:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-18T17:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

The subject of this article was referred to as "Rajesh a/l Perumal" prior to our edits; for example, see this old revision. ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 12:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-20T12:32:00.000Z","author":"WikiWarrior9919","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-20T12:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-11-18T17:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:29:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-20T12:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c9\u03b9\u03ba\u03b9\u03c9\u03b1rr\u03b9or"}}-->

If you do not object, sir, may I please create "Rajesh a/l Perumal" as a redirect to "P. Rajesh", instead? ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 18:29, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T18:29:00.000Z","author":"WikiWarrior9919","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:29:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-20T12:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c9\u03b9\u03ba\u03b9\u03c9\u03b1rr\u03b9or"}}-->

No I don't object, my only concern was that it would not make sense to all readers why the names seemed so different. ... discospinster _talk 18:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

May I ask what the reason was you moved the page I had created back to drafts so I can fix and reassess?

As it says in the note on your talk page, there aren't enough sources to show that this company is notable by Wikipedia's criteria. See WP:GNG and WP:ORG for more information. ... discospinster _talk 19:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-18T19:17:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-18T19:17:00.000Z-my_page_admission_was_moved_to_drafts","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Discospinster, you claim this reference https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/media.worldcurling.org/media.worldcurling.org/wcf_worldcurling/2019/09/17100941/2019-The-Rules-of-Curling-_Changelog.pdf has nothing to do with the championships, but if you look on page 55 and 56 it outlines how the teams qualify for the World's Men's and Women's Curling Championships. I appreciate your due diligence as a great wikipedia editor, but I think the two pages I had for the 2020 World Men's Curling Championship and 2020 World Women's Curling Championship should be reverted back to full page status. Edwyth (talk) 04:59, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T04:59:00.000Z","author":"Edwyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edwyth-2019-11-21T04:59:00.000Z-my_page_admission_was_moved_to_drafts","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Edwyth-2019-11-21T04:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

The document gives general rules of eligibility, it does not support the list of qualifying countries that was in the section. There needs to be more references to show that these teams qualified. ... discospinster _talk 13:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T13:44:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T13:44:00.000Z-Edwyth-2019-11-21T04:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Again, welcome! ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 18:42, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T18:42:00.000Z","author":"WikiWarrior9919","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:42:00.000Z-A_belated_welcome!","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u03c9\u03b9\u03ba\u03b9\u03c9\u03b1rr\u03b9or"}}-->

Thank you. ... discospinster _talk 18:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-11-21T18:53:00.000Z-WikiWarrior9919-2019-11-21T18:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I will attend to the page later on, thanks for informing me.

Commodorelm

There is a link to a page not yet existing for the International Association of Coaching on the Thomas J. Leonard wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Leonard

When the lin is clicked on, one is taken to this page and messsage: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=International_Association_of_Coaching

A draft for this page is found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:International_Association_of_Coaching

I have added data to the page to provide a range of source material to support this page. This may not have been the best thing to do since the draft may take so many more months to be accepted and go 'live' on Wikipedia. Would it therefore be more advisable to simply create a new page from scatch and allow the draft to be deleted? Could I delete it after a new page is created?

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Hi,

This is my first attempt at adding to wikipedia, and I see it has been moved to Draft. Expected, as I have never done this before. I have a question.

You mention Citations and References. I have copies of these from the original journals from the British Library, London, but they are not on the web. How do I add a link to something that is not on the web?

Regards, Adrian Acferrad (talk) 20:02, 6 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-06T20:02:00.000Z","author":"Acferrad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acferrad-2019-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-Adding_a_page_for_Doris_Gwendoline_Helliwell","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-06T20:46:00.000Z-Acferrad-2019-12-06T20:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi Adrian. You can still add references to something not online. See WP:HOWCITE for instructions on how to add citations. ... discospinster _talk 20:46, 6 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-06T20:46:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-06T20:46:00.000Z-Acferrad-2019-12-06T20:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I have added more body, references (for the non-web links I have the originals and copies), a bio and a photo. Can you see the update or do I have to submit it? Let me know if that is good enough - it is a work in progress! Acferrad (talk) 17:03, 7 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-07T17:03:00.000Z","author":"Acferrad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acferrad-2019-12-07T17:03:00.000Z-Adding_a_page_for_Doris_Gwendoline_Helliwell","replies":[]}}-->

Well, hoping that I have done what you asked, I submitted the revised page. It says it can take 4 months or more? Is that correct? Acferrad (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-07T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Acferrad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acferrad-2019-12-07T22:41:00.000Z-Adding_a_page_for_Doris_Gwendoline_Helliwell","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-08T00:09:00.000Z-Acferrad-2019-12-07T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, it doesn't usually take that long. Check back in a couple of days. ... discospinster _talk 00:09, 8 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-08T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-08T00:09:00.000Z-Acferrad-2019-12-07T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I would like to attempt to create the page again, I saw that you had deleted it. How can I do this?

It's currently in draft space (Draft:Prevention Through Deterrence), so once it's ready it can be moved back to article space. ... discospinster _talk 23:02, 6 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-06T23:02:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-06T23:02:00.000Z-Prevention_through_Deterrence","replies":[]}}-->

The Supranational creator is almost certainly a sock of this funny farm. Praxidicae (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-12T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Praxidicae","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Praxidicae-2019-12-12T15:52:00.000Z-FYI","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-12T16:02:00.000Z-Praxidicae-2019-12-12T15:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I figured there was socking going on. ... discospinster _talk 16:02, 12 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-12T16:02:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-12T16:02:00.000Z-Praxidicae-2019-12-12T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Praxidicae-2019-12-12T16:03:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-12T16:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Unfortunately with these pageants there are a lot of sock farms, so no telling which but imo it seems closest to the one linked above. But a duck is a duck...Praxidicae (talk) 16:03, 12 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-12T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Praxidicae","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Praxidicae-2019-12-12T16:03:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-12T16:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello 👋, I see Here you left a COI tag on the talk page of a new user. I’m just curious though, why do you think the user has a COI in/with that article/article subject?Celestina007 (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-13T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Celestina007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Celestina007-2019-12-13T21:45:00.000Z-Curious_Inquiry","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-13T21:52:00.000Z-Celestina007-2019-12-13T21:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Because the user fits the profile of a paid editor - makes small, similar edits in succession to become a confirmed user; the page is fully created and sourced in one edit and looks like the user is already very familiar with Wikipedia markup; the article is about an entertainer or entrepreneur; the citations are to articles that are highly promotional and relatively recent. ... discospinster _talk 21:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-13T21:52:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-13T21:52:00.000Z-Celestina007-2019-12-13T21:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Celestina007-2019-12-14T07:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-13T21:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

discospinster, ah! Thanks for the clarification. He is a Nigerian editor as I am so naturally I took interest. I shall be keeping a close eye on him forthwith.Celestina007 (talk) 07:35, 14 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-14T07:35:00.000Z","author":"Celestina007","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Celestina007-2019-12-14T07:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-13T21:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for helping me check the article to move it to the correct place (draftspace for Durabeyler, Dursunbey). I just can't find citations for it, and it was a rough translation from Vietnamese Wikipedia (the citation there can't be used). Next time, I'll check my articles more carefully. Premier2007 (talk) 03:04, 15 December 2019 (UTC)robertthepremier__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-15T03:04:00.000Z","author":"Premier2007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Premier2007-2019-12-15T03:04:00.000Z-The_draftspace_article","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-16T14:09:00.000Z-Premier2007-2019-12-15T03:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why couldn't the citation from the Vietnamese article be used? Citations that aren't in English are OK, it's just that English is preferred where possible. ... discospinster _talk 14:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-16T14:09:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-16T14:09:00.000Z-Premier2007-2019-12-15T03:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I know I may be wrong for some reason but please do no delete this article I spent a lot of time writing it and research This is not a promotion is an event award for talent show, please do not delete but correct for what I should change than you a lot --Scoffworld (talk) 03:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-16T03:54:00.000Z","author":"Scoffworld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scoffworld-2019-12-16T03:54:00.000Z-African_Talent_Awards","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-16T14:10:00.000Z-Scoffworld-2019-12-16T03:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

The article is incredibly promotional in its language and cannot stay on Wikipedia the way it is. ... discospinster _talk 14:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-16T14:10:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-16T14:10:00.000Z-Scoffworld-2019-12-16T03:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I added the citations and some more details. I hope it's ok to be taken out of drafts now.

Hi, I would like to know if there is a way to close my Wikipedia account as I don't want to be an active user anymore. I do not say eliminate it because I already know that it cannot be done, but I would like to at least close it in order to not be able to enter it again. Thanks. Yiucjb50 (talk) 01:07, 19 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-19T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Yiucjb50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yiucjb50-2019-12-19T01:07:00.000Z-Closing.","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-19T01:44:00.000Z-Yiucjb50-2019-12-19T01:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

I suppose you could request to be blocked so you can't edit anymore. ... discospinster _talk 01:44, 19 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-19T01:44:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-19T01:44:00.000Z-Yiucjb50-2019-12-19T01:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I notice you moved 2020 German Masters to Draft:2020 German Masters on the 12 December. Qualifying for the tournament starts tomorrow (20th) and normally we would want to have an article in place at that time. Is there any reason not to simply copy the draft back to main space, where is more likely to be improved? The article has been changed somewhat since you moved it. Nigej (talk) 12:46, 19 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-19T12:46:00.000Z","author":"Nigej","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nigej-2019-12-19T12:46:00.000Z-2020_German_Masters","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-19T15:07:00.000Z-Nigej-2019-12-19T12:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

You can move it back to the original title. ... discospinster _talk 15:07, 19 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-19T15:07:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-19T15:07:00.000Z-Nigej-2019-12-19T12:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Merry Christmas, Discospinster! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC) __DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-19T18:59:00.000Z","author":"Onel5969","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Onel5969-2019-12-19T18:59:00.000Z-cheers","replies":[]}}-->

For what it's worth, though I deprodded Bibliography of books defending Islam, I don't necessarily think it ought to be kept and probably wouldn't !vote to keep it at AfD. My concern was that your rationale seemed to run counter to WP:CSC, which says that stand-alone lists where "Every entry in the list fails the notability criteria" can be worth keeping, and was also no longer true as The revealer had added several notable books to the list in the meantime. However looking at the list now the criterion seems unfeasibly ill-defined – most of the books listed surely have defence of Islam as a secondary objective, if they engage in it at all, and some (e.g. Minaret (novel)) can probably only be said to do so as a matter of interpretation. So, while it might make sense to wait until Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bibliography of books critical of Islam is closed, I think an AfD would be a good idea. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Arms & Hearts","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T14:52:00.000Z-Bibliography_of_books_defending_Islam","replies":["c-The_revealer-2019-12-20T15:15:00.000Z-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T14:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Arms & Hearts: Should I keep only the books which have defending islam as a primary objective?The revealer (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T15:15:00.000Z","author":"The revealer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_revealer-2019-12-20T15:15:00.000Z-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T14:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T17:14:00.000Z-The_revealer-2019-12-20T15:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've replied at Talk:Bibliography of books defending Islam. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T17:14:00.000Z","author":"Arms & Hearts","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T17:14:00.000Z-The_revealer-2019-12-20T15:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_revealer-2019-12-31T13:28:00.000Z-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T17:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Discospinster: shouldn't the notice of proposed deletion be removed now at Talk:Bibliography of books defending Islam? The revealer (talk) 13:28, 31 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-31T13:28:00.000Z","author":"The revealer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_revealer-2019-12-31T13:28:00.000Z-Arms_&_Hearts-2019-12-20T17:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-31T19:48:00.000Z-The_revealer-2019-12-31T13:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

@The revealer: I believe that is there to notify other editors that it was proposed for deletion once before, so they shouldn't propose it again. ... discospinster _talk 19:48, 31 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-31T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-31T19:48:00.000Z-The_revealer-2019-12-31T13:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Could you please block user:Big Sasqautch as she is clearly no going to cease until blocked

I have blocked the user. ... discospinster _talk 14:55, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-20T14:55:00.000Z-user:Big_Sasqautch","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Discospinster! You have deleted the page Sleep on the Floor a momemt ago. I know I made a mistake not asking the user who deleted it the last time (User:NinjaRobotPirate), but after realizing about my error I would like to know what can I do to recreate the page and publish the article I made about that song. Please help me with this article and thanks in advance. --Saviourofthe (talk) 22:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T22:24:00.000Z","author":"Saviourofthe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Saviourofthe-2019-12-20T22:24:00.000Z-Sleep_on_the_Floor","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-20T22:27:00.000Z-Saviourofthe-2019-12-20T22:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

The page is not protected so an article can be recreated. ... discospinster _talk 22:27, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-20T22:27:00.000Z-Saviourofthe-2019-12-20T22:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-NinjaRobotPirate-2019-12-20T22:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-20T22:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm pretty sure this isn't FilmLover2016. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:32, 20 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-20T22:32:00.000Z","author":"NinjaRobotPirate","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-NinjaRobotPirate-2019-12-20T22:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-20T22:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!

Hello Discospinster, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020. Happy editing, ★Trekker (talk) 15:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-21T15:13:00.000Z","author":"*Treker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-*Treker-2019-12-21T15:13:00.000Z-Merry_Merry!","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2605Trekker"}}--> Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

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I noticed that this name is being used in draft space right now, and you moved it from article space. (The draft shows it is not in the review process at this time.) With the first Billboard Hot 100 chart of 2020 coming out next week, dated January 4, 2020, and its number-one song to be determined on Monday (December 30), would it be appropriate at that time to move the contents, including the information to be released next week, back into article space?

I also have the similar question for the name "List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of the 2020s", also moved from article space to draft space by you. In this case, however, it may be later into 2020, very likely after the chart dated January 4, that something new moves into the number-one position on the Hot 100, and would warrant the article at that time.

In the past, when an article of this nature had been created, ahead of the year it was for, it was usually redirected to the article for the name of the chart (Billboard Hot 100 in this case), from what I've seen. Not that this WP:OSE argument has any merit, but that's what has been done. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:46, 26 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-26T17:46:00.000Z","author":"MPFitz1968","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T17:46:00.000Z-List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2020","replies":["c-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T23:45:00.000Z-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Since my post a few hours ago, another entry has popped up in article space under the above name (List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 2020), current redirected to the article for the previous year's Billboard Hot 100 number-one songs. We now have a conflict, between that new article and the draft. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:45, 26 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-26T23:45:00.000Z","author":"MPFitz1968","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T23:45:00.000Z-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T17:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-27T02:51:00.000Z-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T23:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

I suppose when there is substantive content I could merge the histories if necessary. ... discospinster _talk 02:51, 27 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-27T02:51:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-27T02:51:00.000Z-MPFitz1968-2019-12-26T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-MPFitz1968-2019-12-30T18:34:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-27T02:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

There is new content at the article, with the announcement of the number-one song on Billboard's first Hot 100 for 2020. While the draft didn't have more than just a lede statement about the Billboard Hot 100 chart itself, I'm not too sure there's any concern about the content in article space being totally different. Still, to preserve the history of the article, I'd be okay with merging the draft's history, though I'll leave you to the technical details (as I'm not sure what happens with the current article exactly). MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-30T18:34:00.000Z","author":"MPFitz1968","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MPFitz1968-2019-12-30T18:34:00.000Z-Discospinster-2019-12-27T02:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Discospinster,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 01:05, 31 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-31T01:05:00.000Z","author":"CAPTAIN RAJU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-12-31T01:05:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year!","replies":["c-Discospinster-2019-12-31T19:45:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-12-31T01:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Thanks very much, Happy New Year to you @CAPTAIN RAJU:! ... discospinster _talk 19:45, 31 December 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-31T19:45:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2019-12-31T19:45:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-12-31T01:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi - I wonder if you'd be willing to outline your thinking on Draft:Arya Toufanian - I had BLP-prodded it, you removed the prod and draftified it instead. I'm not here to argue the toss about it, you've been doing this a lot longer than I have, I'm just eager to get your thoughts on it to help me improve my reviewing. I use the NPP Flowchart, and my decision path was along the lines of: Written in English --> Not nonsense or pure vandalism etc --> Not blank --> Enough context to identify subject --> Not copyvio --> Unsourced --> has a claim of SIGNIF --> BLP yes --> No external links whatsoever --> BLP Prod. Why did you think draftification was the better option? Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 12:22, 3 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-03T12:22:00.000Z","author":"Girth Summit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Girth_Summit-2020-01-03T12:22:00.000Z-Draft_persus_PROD","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-01-03T16:41:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-01-03T12:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"GirthSummit"}}-->

In this case the article had some more serious BLP issues (making unsourced claims about lawsuits and criminal charges). I felt that while it wasn't enough to be speedy deleted as an attack page, it should not be in the main space for this reason, even if there was a prod tag on it. ... discospinster _talk 16:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-03T16:41:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-01-03T16:41:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-01-03T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Girth_Summit-2020-01-04T01:36:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-01-03T16:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, upon review, I see what you mean - good call, and thanks for the explanation. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 01:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-04T01:36:00.000Z","author":"Girth Summit","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Girth_Summit-2020-01-04T01:36:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-01-03T16:41:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"GirthSummit"}}-->

discospinster - the article I was working on, Chris Aspin , you moved to draftspace on the 18th November, is now complete. The draft hasn't been checked out for submission for 8 weeks and I am minded to Move the article from Draft to Article status. As you were the editor who moved the article in the first instance I am notifying you. Regards. Bob (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-05T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Bobf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bobf-2020-01-05T17:05:00.000Z-Chris_Aspin_entry","replies":[],"displayName":"Bob"}}-->

Response. Thank you for your comments discospinster. Please rapidly reinstate the page. You are concerned (I suggest wrongly) with establishing publicly the sources of the information for this page. At age 79, I have had many, many years experience of establishing the Wikipedia sources of information. I have done so to support this worthy theatre company in Hong Kong that improves the Cantonese/English-language skills and political situation in these difficult HK times (I live in England) – for this I have fully and carefully done so in and for the page, fully satisfying your requests:

1. Link from another page … see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Hong_Kong#Theatres

2. In the page to state the source of 80% of the page … www.auroratheatrehk.com

3. In the page to state the source of 20% of the page Awards and credits … www.hkeld.com

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@Duncanogi: The issue is that these are primary sources, i.e., they come from the organization itself. Wikipedia requires significant discussion of the subject in third party reliable sources, like newspapers, magazines, well-known websites, etc. Furthermore the "Awards and credits" section does not tell us who gave out these awards. ... discospinster _talk 14:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-06T14:03:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-01-06T14:03:00.000Z-Duncanogi-2020-01-06T10:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

I created a page Milan Friedrich that you deleted. I'd like to get a copy of the website and text for future reference and re-doing it. It took me a lot of time to put everything togeter, therefore I'd like to get a copy of it and not having to start from the begining.

Thank you.

I've put it in your user space here: User:True hero 14/Milan Friedrich. ... discospinster _talk 18:45, 11 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-11T18:45:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-01-11T18:45:00.000Z-Milan_Friedrich","replies":[]}}-->

First of all I'd like to thank you for your quick response and for sending me the link to the article. It just made my day realizing I do not have to make that up again. Thank you. Secondly I'd like to ask you, if you were to write the article (or to edit it) what would you change, so the page could be published? Thank you so much in advance for your timeand help.

Hi Disco. Is any action required with this draft? You moved the initial article from the mainspace in October. The draft has now been blanked, with the article recreated here, albeit with a slightly different title. Sourcing, and IMO notability issues, are still a concern on the mainspace article. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-19T13:31:00.000Z","author":"Lugnuts","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lugnuts-2020-01-19T13:31:00.000Z-AfC_query","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-01-19T20:55:00.000Z-Lugnuts-2020-01-19T13:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Normally if a draft is untouched for six months it will be marked for speedy deletion. I suppose I could just delete it now as author blanked. Thanks for the heads-up. ... discospinster _talk 20:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-19T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-01-19T20:55:00.000Z-Lugnuts-2020-01-19T13:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Discospinster (talk),

Please can you check out my draft Draft:Martin Fayomi, would like to move it to article space --Goldie19 (talk) 23:59, 26 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-26T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Goldie19","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Goldie19-2020-01-26T23:59:00.000Z-Draft:Martin_Fayomi","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-03T16:51:00.000Z-Goldie19-2020-01-26T23:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think there needs to be more discussion of why he is notable. Currently the sources are run-of-the-mill announcements about his comings and goings. The Vanguard article is a start, but surely there are more articles that talk about him in a significant way? ... discospinster _talk 16:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-03T16:51:00.000Z-Goldie19-2020-01-26T23:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yeah, I saw some published articles on Blogs, can blogs be used as reference?--Goldie19 (talk) 16:59, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Goldie19","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Goldie19-2020-02-03T16:59:00.000Z-Draft:Martin_Fayomi","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-04T20:04:00.000Z-Goldie19-2020-02-03T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Generally blogs are not suitable as reliable sources. It would depend on the blog and what it's referencing. ... discospinster _talk 20:04, 4 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-04T20:04:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-04T20:04:00.000Z-Goldie19-2020-02-03T16:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Is my article’s sources are eligible? Baran Ahmet (talk) 16:56, 27 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-27T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Baran Ahmet","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Baran_Ahmet-2020-01-27T16:56:00.000Z-ARTICLE","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-01-27T17:18:00.000Z-Baran_Ahmet-2020-01-27T16:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

If you mean Draft:Aybars, the sources do not appear to show why he is notable, they are just a description of him, and likely submitted by himself. ... discospinster _talk 17:18, 27 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-27T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-01-27T17:18:00.000Z-Baran_Ahmet-2020-01-27T16:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry, my edit went through and then I saw the message. TheEpicGhosty (talk) 01:45, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T01:45:00.000Z","author":"TheEpicGhosty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheEpicGhosty-2020-02-03T01:45:00.000Z-Could_you_please_move_The_Right_Side_of_History_to_Draftspace_again?","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks TheEpicGhosty (talk) 01:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T01:47:00.000Z","author":"TheEpicGhosty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheEpicGhosty-2020-02-03T01:47:00.000Z-Could_you_please_move_The_Right_Side_of_History_to_Draftspace_again?","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, whilst I was copy-editing Ace Hudkins, Boxer, The Nebraska Wildcat (August 30 1905 - April 8 1973) it seems you were moving the page to Ace Hudkins. I intended to do that after the CE. However, when I clicked 'publish', the edit was saved and I did not get an edit conflict and then was unable to move it to the shorter title. It now seems that I have somehow created a page at the old over-long title which needs to be deleted. Can you do this or if need to request, would G6 or A10 apply? Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 02:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T02:04:00.000Z","author":"Eagleash","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eagleash-2020-02-03T02:04:00.000Z-Didn't_get_an_edit_conflict...","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-03T02:06:00.000Z-Eagleash-2020-02-03T02:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can just delete it as G6 housekeeping. Thanks for letting me know. ... discospinster _talk 02:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T02:06:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-03T02:06:00.000Z-Eagleash-2020-02-03T02:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Eagleash-2020-02-03T02:11:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-02-03T02:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK good! Thanks very much. Eagleash (talk) 02:11, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T02:11:00.000Z","author":"Eagleash","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Eagleash-2020-02-03T02:11:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-02-03T02:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I started the article yesterday but had to leave my desk for an urgent piece of work. I have added citations. Please move the article so I can continue working. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 05:17, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T05:17:00.000Z","author":"MistyGraceWhite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-03T05:17:00.000Z-Valery_Zubov","replies":["c-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-06T05:09:00.000Z-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-03T05:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have finished the article, with citations. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 05:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-06T05:09:00.000Z","author":"MistyGraceWhite","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-06T05:09:00.000Z-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-03T05:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-06T05:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have moved it back to article space. ... discospinster _talk 14:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z-MistyGraceWhite-2020-02-06T05:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

hi can you help me with the problem in heavy light page, please? dont understand what you mean. thanks

The article for Heavy Light just says that the album exists, not why it is notable. The sources are only announcements that the album is coming. Are there other sources that talk about it (or the songs) in detail? Otherwise the information could go into the Norton (band) article until the album is released and has reviews or goes on the music chart. ... discospinster _talk 16:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-03T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-03T16:46:00.000Z-hi","replies":[]}}-->

there are some, yes. i can add. the album is not yet released its normal there are not much info yet. ive seen a lot of wikipedia articles like this, before the albums are out.

Title Esaïe Prickett (talk) 02:27, 6 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-06T02:27:00.000Z","author":"Esa\u00efe Prickett","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Esa\u00efe_Prickett-2020-02-06T02:27:00.000Z-What\u2019s_your_favorite_disco_music?","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z-Esa\u00efe_Prickett-2020-02-06T02:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

I like all of it. ... discospinster _talk 14:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-06T14:26:00.000Z-Esa\u00efe_Prickett-2020-02-06T02:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You proposed this article for deletion. There is also a draft that appears to be the same as the article. I have declined the draft, and am recommending that the draft be retained as a draft if the article is deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-06T04:39:00.000Z","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-2020-02-06T04:39:00.000Z-Steven_C._Roach","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Discospinster How can i make Kisure Sports to be included in wikipedia

I saw that you draftified Draft:closers.com. I had previously templated this for speedy deletion as an non-notable company. In reality it appears to be a hoax. Searches reveal nothing about a company that claims £34billion turn over. It is worth simply deleting this as a hoax instead? Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:16, 24 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Velella","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Velella-2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z-Draftifying_of_closers.com","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-24T21:17:00.000Z-Velella-2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z","c-Praxidicae-2020-02-24T21:20:00.000Z-Velella-2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sure, I've already blocked the editor for promotional editing. ... discospinster _talk 21:17, 24 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-24T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-24T21:17:00.000Z-Velella-2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You could also make it a sock block :) Praxidicae (talk) 21:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-24T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Praxidicae","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Praxidicae-2020-02-24T21:20:00.000Z-Velella-2020-02-24T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-24T21:24:00.000Z-Praxidicae-2020-02-24T21:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

No surprises there! ... discospinster _talk 21:24, 24 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-24T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-24T21:24:00.000Z-Praxidicae-2020-02-24T21:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

An article "Thirdlane" I posted yesterday was marked for speedy deletion and then deleted the same day. As per the guidelines I contacted the editor who marked the article for deletion, but so far received no response. The article was removed by you as G11 (advertisement), even thought it was simply an article about a company and its products that in my opinion was informative and useful to readers, similar to many other articles of the similar nature. Are any articles that mention a company or products inappropriate? What are the guidelines I should have followed to improve the article and avoid the deletion?

Thank you

Aepshteyn (talk) 19:03, 25 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-25T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Aepshteyn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aepshteyn-2020-02-25T19:03:00.000Z-Thirdlane_article","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-02-25T19:54:00.000Z-Aepshteyn-2020-02-25T19:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

It was deleted because it had a promotional tone, e.g. talking about how it is easy to use and what benefits it provides. Wikipedia articles are only supposed to include facts, and not how wonderful the product is. Furthermore it did not show how the company is notable, in that it should be the subject of significant discussion in multiple reliable sources, not just mentioned somewhere. ... discospinster _talk 19:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-25T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-02-25T19:54:00.000Z-Aepshteyn-2020-02-25T19:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for your response. I would be happy to edit the article to make sure it includes the facts only and nothing subjective. I honestly don't see much advertising in describing a purpose, feature, or a benefit, but will try to be aware of the possibility of that being interpreted this way. As far as notable - Thirdlane is not a household name but it has a very large number of users - should that be mentioned to make it more notable?

Being new to creating content - what would be the recommended next step in getting the article about Thirdlane published?

Aepshteyn (talk) 21:01, 25 February 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-25T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Aepshteyn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aepshteyn-2020-02-25T21:01:00.000Z-Thirdlane_article","replies":[]}}-->

Hey guy what's up. I wanna see my pages which I translated form where can I access the same. I even tried Xtools where we can see Wikipedia progress but there weren't anthin' there. I'd express my extreme gratitude towards you I you can help me in any possible way.

Thanks

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 10:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-03T10:53:00.000Z","author":"SHISHIR DUA","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SHISHIR_DUA-2020-03-03T10:53:00.000Z-Help_Required","replies":[]}}-->

Hello D. Thanks for the rev/del on Bidgee's talk page. When you have a moment could you please zap the summaries by 2001:8004:14A0:BFD:98F3:436A:87A6:F3DD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 20:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T20:25:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2020-03-05T20:25:00.000Z-A_couple_more","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-05T20:55:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-03-05T20:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done. ... discospinster _talk 20:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-05T20:55:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-03-05T20:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2020-03-05T21:25:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-03-05T20:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you. MarnetteD|Talk 21:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T21:25:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2020-03-05T21:25:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-03-05T20:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi

we are at an official Wikimedia editathon in Melbourne Australia ... I realise that you are maintaining quality standards but I am currently working on the page and will be putting in more references etc in the next 60 minutes

thank you

but lets not be too zealous and interfere with legitimate events

Articles must have at least one reference at the time of publishing, not 60 minutes after. ... discospinster _talk 01:11, 8 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-08T01:11:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-08T01:11:00.000Z-At_an_Editathon_Please_do_not_touch_the_Stephanie_Taylor_article_that_you_just_m","replies":[]}}-->

Hi the facilitator of our event has said we are still working on the page and we will add some more references, we have many articles to pull together and I have been checking references on other articles thanks

@Bebe Jumeau: Articles can easily be moved from draft space back to main space — when it comes to articles about people they are more susceptible to being deleted when there are no references. ... discospinster _talk 19:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-10T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-10T19:09:00.000Z-At_an_Editathon_Please_do_not_touch_the_Stephanie_Taylor_article_that_you_just_m","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, it is possible to request a draft of the deleted page of Svetlana Borisovna Lunin in order to make some changes, please? Thank you SeaFede (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T13:20:00.000Z","author":"SeaFede","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SeaFede-2020-03-12T13:20:00.000Z-Request_to_have_draft_of_Svetlana_Borisovna_Lunin","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-12T14:28:00.000Z-SeaFede-2020-03-12T13:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

• OK it is now at Draft:Svetlana Borisovna Lunin. ... discospinster _talk 14:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T14:28:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-12T14:28:00.000Z-SeaFede-2020-03-12T13:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

i think it's a fear and not a medical problem... i mean it could be mentally i guess...

24toonenata

• There were no citations to show that these phobias are real and actual medical problems. ... discospinster _talk 14:25, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T14:25:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-12T14:25:00.000Z-your_delete","replies":[]}}-->

I'm puzzled. How significant does a person have to be before they can be listed on List of tallest people? I don't see any parameters for the list. What are they? I believe anyone that looks over List of tallest people will click on my article to see the story of the tallest Nazi soldier. He is a significant figure for WW II and the 1950s. I would like to be able to put him on the list. What are the requirements? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T18:13:00.000Z","author":"Doug Coldwell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Coldwell-2020-03-12T18:13:00.000Z-Jakob_Nacken","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-12T19:17:00.000Z-Doug_Coldwell-2020-03-12T18:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

The problem is that the list could go on forever if we keep getting so specific. Obviously someone is the tallest of some set of persons but we have to have some kind of cutoff. If he was the tallest soldier in WWII, or the tallest German soldier ever, that's one thing, but "tallest person in a particular country of a particular political party in a particular war" is getting a bit granular. ... discospinster _talk 19:17, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T19:17:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-12T19:17:00.000Z-Doug_Coldwell-2020-03-12T18:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doug_Coldwell-2020-03-12T19:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-03-12T19:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

I do believe my person that I created an article on DOES meet your parameters. The article has said that he was the tallest soldier in WWII AND he was the tallest German soldier ever. Do you know otherwise? Are there parameters for the list that specifies these type of specifications? I didn't notice them. Where are they located in the List article? I am very interested in getting my article that I created on Jakob Nacken put into List of tallest people. I believe that would be correct. Perhaps we should get a consensus on this from the top editors? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-12T19:35:00.000Z","author":"Doug Coldwell","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Doug_Coldwell-2020-03-12T19:35:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-03-12T19:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-13T07:46:00.000Z","author":"CAPTAIN RAJU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-03-13T07:46:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!","replies":[]}}-->

Please check out this Sezer777. He is making multiple edits at Geographical Regions in Turkey. But there is not really a sense in the edits. He even tried to include Italys regions in Turkeys Geographical Regions. He hasn't answered to anyone so far on his talk page. You are a Sysop. Thank you. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-15T15:34:00.000Z","author":"Paradise Chronicle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paradise_Chronicle-2020-03-15T15:34:00.000Z-Sezer777","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-15T18:16:00.000Z-Paradise_Chronicle-2020-03-15T15:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have blocked the user for a short time. ... discospinster _talk 18:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-15T18:16:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-15T18:16:00.000Z-Paradise_Chronicle-2020-03-15T15:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, can I have the deleted page in draft so I can make changes, please? Thank you SeaFede (talk) 16:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-16T16:52:00.000Z","author":"SeaFede","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SeaFede-2020-03-16T16:52:00.000Z-Request_to_have_draft_of_Margaritis_Ivanovna_Filanovich","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-18T17:03:00.000Z-SeaFede-2020-03-16T16:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is now at Draft:Margaritis Ivanovna Filanovich. ... discospinster _talk 17:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-18T17:03:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-18T17:03:00.000Z-SeaFede-2020-03-16T16:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. Concerning Mile V. Pajić, I have re-phrased rhetorical style of the Serbian original, made it simpler and less essayistic. Factography itself is not questionable. Please, review the article again and suggest final solution. Sincerely. --Stripar (talk) 11:07, 22 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-22T11:07:00.000Z","author":"Stripar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stripar-2020-03-22T11:07:00.000Z-Mile_V._Paji\u0107","replies":[]}}-->

So, I noticed that there wasn't a summary article for Canada at the World Championships in Athletics, which surprised me. I thought, hey, not my area, but I could make one up, and I used the format of Sweden at the World Championships in Athletics as a guide. Took some time, but I thought it would be a helpful article to have. And you just push it over to being a "draft?" What the what? The article summarizing information on existing Wikipedia pages. I'm really angry about this. I'm just trying to be helpful here, and you're NOT HELPING! Trb333 (talk) 19:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-25T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Trb333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trb333-2020-03-25T19:18:00.000Z-Canada_at_the_World_Championships_in_Athletics_moved_to_draftspace","replies":[]}}-->

It’s my page can you leave it up Random12345555 (talk) 09:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-26T09:15:00.000Z","author":"Random12345555","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Random12345555-2020-03-26T09:15:00.000Z-Lil_Avo","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-03-26T13:25:00.000Z-Random12345555-2020-03-26T09:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

The subject is not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Also you should not be writing articles about yourself. ... discospinster _talk 13:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-26T13:25:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-03-26T13:25:00.000Z-Random12345555-2020-03-26T09:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Discospinster, I want to know why did you delete a page contains the information of a 1600 A.D Sufi Saint of Suharwardi Tariqa from Wikipedia, you should have raised an objection on any section prior to deleting so that we can improve its quality.

It belongs to that era when with less or rare information is available. Kindly reply as restoring the page if possible I will help you to sort out the issue and help to wikipeida.

I don't see where I deleted that page. It was redirected by another editor. ... discospinster _talk 14:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-03T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-04-03T14:47:00.000Z-Mian_Adam_Shah_Kalhoro_Page_deleted","replies":[]}}-->

I am messaging you in regards to my clients account TERI SILLO which you kept in your drafts folder. We were working on adding some more detailed info to the page as well as properly cite and references it in other to meet Wikipedia standard before it was taken down.I humbly beckon on you to kindly release the page to back us for proper edit so as to meet your standard as well that of Wikipedia’s. I will be grateful if my request is granted. Thank you so much for your Wonderful job on Wikipedia.

MY CLIENT’S PAGE NAME IS TERI SILLO .

Thanks so much sir.

Hi Discospinster

Would like to understand if there is any possibility of fixing the promotional content than deleting Thanks

Hiya, I've just been editing a new article A1 Top Masta, and only then realised that you had recently proposed speedy deletion on a similarly-titled article A1 Top Masta(A.T.M.) by the same user. As I don't know the background to this and wasn't sure how to proceed, I thought I'd at least flag up this issue with you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:47, 5 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-05T07:47:00.000Z","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-2020-04-05T07:47:00.000Z-A1_Top_Masta","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Discospinster I have made couple of research and improved the article Atto Abbas on draft please check it and Check all the sources they are notable now and verified thank you .

Hi Discospinster, Nope you're not going mad - I did move the BMW logo from "Former BMW logo" to just "BMW" without leaving a redirect behind,
Someone originally moved it without any consensus and I figured having it as "former" would confuse people and would invite people to cause more havoc hence me moving it back :),
Apologies for the confusion anyway, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 23:27, 18 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-18T23:27:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davey2010-2020-04-18T23:27:00.000Z-BMW_logo","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Discospinster I write two article with wikipedia roles. Please I wrote two articles according to Wikipedia rules. 1. Draft:Arash Ghaderi 2. Draft:Hasan Rahnamaeian Please check them and accept if there is no problem. Warm regards. Omid ahmadyani (talk) 10:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-07T10:12:00.000Z","author":"Omid ahmadyani","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Omid_ahmadyani-2020-05-07T10:12:00.000Z-Two_article","replies":[]}}-->

I am a certified in history and African latin studies. These stats are wrong most citizens were coerced into identify as something they were not due to low confidence and corrupt government. Also have various dna samples for a study.

You cannot change the numbers unless you cite a published source. ... discospinster _talk 03:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-15T03:51:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-05-15T03:51:00.000Z-\/*_Population_*\/_correcting_the_overall_racial_structure_in_Honduras._I_did_a_th","replies":[]}}-->

Okay got it. Another administrator showed me the process once I get the my studies published I will be back. Thank you!

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Gadhawa Rural Municipality ( गढवा गाउँपालिका). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 7#Gadhawa Rural Municipality ( गढवा गाउँपालिका) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-07T21:05:00.000Z","author":"1234qwer1234qwer4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2020-06-07T21:05:00.000Z-\"Gadhawa_Rural_Municipality_(_\u0917\u0922\u0935\u093e_\u0917\u093e\u0909\u0901\u092a\u093e\u0932\u093f\u0915\u093e)\"_list","replies":[]}}-->

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Rao Dargahi Singh Bhati ( Dadri King ). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 7#Rao Dargahi Singh Bhati ( Dadri King ) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-07T21:17:00.000Z","author":"1234qwer1234qwer4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2020-06-07T21:17:00.000Z-\"Rao_Dargahi_Singh_Bhati_(_Dadri_King_)\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

Hello sir, You do not need to create new content on this topic. There is already written article about this topic by local of this rural municipality.

Hi Discospinster,

Could you elaborate on the deletion of my recent CHAZ addition to the list of micronations? Although CHAZ has only recently formed, it appears very comparable to Freetown Christiania as an autonomous zone in Copenhagen. It has its own Wikipedia entry, it has attracted considerable media attention, it has a serious purpose (or purposes), and merits inclusion on historical grounds at least as much as some other micronations in the list which are now inactive or wholly defunct.

Looking forward to hearing your thinking.

Thanks,

Eastkeil

As stated on the article's talk page, it's described as an autonomous zone, not a micronation. These are two different things in that a micronation claims to be an actual independent state, while an autonomous zone is still within an existing state, but they govern themselves in some way. If you can find a reliable source that describes CHAZ/CHOP as a micronation then feel free to add it back. I don't believe that Freetown Christiania should be in the micronations list either, so I will look more closely at that. There are reliable sources that describe Freetown Christiania as a micronation. ... discospinster _talk 14:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-18T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-06-18T14:26:00.000Z-CHAZ_(Capital_Hill_Autonomous_Zone)_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, Discospinster. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! ~SS49~ {talk} 01:14, 27 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-27T01:14:00.000Z","author":"SS49","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SS49-2020-06-27T01:14:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!","replies":[],"displayName":"~SS49~"}}-->

Thank you! ... discospinster _talk 18:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-27T18:42:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-06-27T18:42:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!","replies":[]}}-->

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-27T18:25:00.000Z","author":"CAPTAIN RAJU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-06-27T18:25:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-06-27T18:41:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-06-27T18:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you! How time flies. ... discospinster _talk 18:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-27T18:41:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-06-27T18:41:00.000Z-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-06-27T18:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Discospinster, Could you check Draft:2027 AFC Asian Cup and accept if there is no problem. Warm regards. --Qby (talk) 06:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-01T06:31:00.000Z","author":"Qby","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Qby-2020-07-01T06:31:00.000Z-Draft:2027_AFC_Asian_Cup","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-07-01T14:47:00.000Z-Qby-2020-07-01T06:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

That looks fine to me. ... discospinster _talk 14:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-01T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-07-01T14:47:00.000Z-Qby-2020-07-01T06:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-04T06:49:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-08-04T06:49:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary","replies":[]}}-->

There are references now so can you undraft it please. GaA24 (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-08T16:06:00.000Z","author":"GaA24","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GaA24-2020-08-08T16:06:00.000Z-2018_Duhallow_Junior_A_Hurling_Championship","replies":[]}}-->

This appears to be an enthusiastic editor who doesn't yet understand verifiability. I see that you draftified some of their pages, and that some have been draftified more than once. I AFD'd The Killing Bottle and three others in the same series. It looked to me as if that is either the only way to get them adequately sourced with Japanese references (since a Google search doesn't find anything) or to get rid of them. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:23, 18 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-18T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-2020-08-18T22:23:00.000Z-Oliverdrinkstars57","replies":[]}}-->

Wondering why you deleted the Fabiola Vargas article since I am neither a blocked nor a banned user in violation of a block or ban.

Cheers. Cocu15 (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-24T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Cocu15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cocu15-2020-08-24T16:46:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Fabiola_Vargas","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-08-24T18:25:00.000Z-Cocu15-2020-08-24T16:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry about that, I read the log wrong. I will restore it. ... discospinster _talk 18:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-24T18:25:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-24T18:25:00.000Z-Cocu15-2020-08-24T16:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

please can you help me with the wikipage .....please i need it published today. i have tried and tried but to no avial. after 18 edit. i am tied please help Iceone2000 (talk) 23:59, 25 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-25T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Iceone2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iceone2000-2020-08-25T23:59:00.000Z-Some_baklava_for_you!","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T00:42:00.000Z-Iceone2000-2020-08-25T23:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't know what page you are referring to. ... discospinster _talk 00:42, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T00:42:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T00:42:00.000Z-Iceone2000-2020-08-25T23:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, you moved this page to draft earlier today and it was almost immediately returned to mainspace without much improvement, if any. I was unable to move it to draft again as Draft:Adrianna So already exists. Can you assist please? Thanks! Eagleash (talk) 15:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T15:03:00.000Z","author":"Eagleash","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eagleash-2020-08-26T15:03:00.000Z-Adrianna_So","replies":[]}}-->

OK, not to worry; it has ended up at AfD. Thanks anyway. Eagleash (talk) 21:49, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Eagleash","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eagleash-2020-08-26T21:49:00.000Z-Adrianna_So","replies":[]}}-->

Hello:

Sorry but I'm not sure whether to post this on your Talk page or mine. Mikeo1938 (talk) 15:30, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Mikeo1938","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:30:00.000Z-Translation_of_the_article_from_Italian_into_English_-_Ship_'Elettra'","replies":[]}}-->

Here it is again:

Hello discospinster and thanks for your comment. But there is a note with the Italian article requesting a translation. And that is what I am trying to do. However, I'm not creating an article from scratch. I am merely translating the article that appears in the Italian Wiki. This is the request ... Wikipedia is requesting a translation.

It is one thing to translate an article but quite another to find citations. Are you saying that my translation will not be accepted unless I find citations? There may be some citations in the Italian article (cannot remember just at the moment) and if there are, I will, of course, include them.

I am happy for my work to be held in draft form until my translation is complete - but at that point I would like it to be published. My translation will be a total waste of time if it is denied publication because of a lack of citations.

Mikeo1938 (talk) 15:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T15:25:00.000Z","author":"Mikeo1938","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:25:00.000Z-My_translation_of_Elettra","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T15:43:00.000Z-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

If there are citations in the Italian article then those can be imported into the English translation as well. Once the citations are added you can move the article back into published mode. ... discospinster _talk 15:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T15:43:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T15:43:00.000Z-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

OK and all noted. So I will continue with my translation and include any citations and references that appear in the Italian article. At that end point I will "undraft" the new article and include a mention that it is a translation.

Regards Mikeo1938 (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T15:47:00.000Z","author":"Mikeo1938","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:47:00.000Z-My_translation_of_Elettra","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T22:57:00.000Z-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes that is a good approach. ... discospinster _talk 22:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T22:57:00.000Z-Mikeo1938-2020-08-26T15:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Discospinster, I'm a novice Wiki user and was referencing Thomas DeMark while trying to help create a new Wiki page for a company of his that didn't already have a Wiki. I heard it mentioned during a CNBC tv interview yesterday. I didn't mean or intend to make any changes to Thomas DeMark. Will you please help restore Thomas DeMark? I understand the text I used for Symbolik was from their website and could've been interpreted as promotional so I'll have to read more before helping Wiki add a Symbolik reference. There aren't any WP:COI or WP:PAID disputes for my contributions, I read Thomas DeMark books while in college and when I see articles on Bloomberg/CNBC I check Wiki and add the reference if they haven't already been added. Thank you! Kreid913 (talk)

It would probably be a better idea if you started it in draft space (Draft:Thomas DeMark), that way you can work on it without having the possibility of being deleted. The text from the previous article is, as you mentioned, quite promotional, so it doesn't make sense to restore it. ... discospinster _talk 17:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-26T17:53:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Thomas_DeMark","replies":[]}}-->

I assume that the main reason for the deletion is “significant coverage”. I agree that the subject is not something that everybody is talking about. Still, it has public interest: 1) research work of Gennady Ermak is frequently referenced by others; for example, researchgate.net says: “Gennady Ermak's 50 research works with 3903 citations and 2564 reads…” 2) his research might be not even the main interest to public. His books draws more attention, especially the controversial book “Communism: The Great Misunderstanding.” Famous American social critic characterized it as “interesting and important.” In fact, the reason that I decided to create this article is that, in a blog about this book, someone questioned: Who is Ermak? I could not find any information about him.

I improved the article a bit by providing some of the above information. Hope it is more suitable now. It is up to you whether to accept it and I am not going to contest your decision. Prosto aneg (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-26T17:24:00.000Z","author":"Prosto aneg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prosto_aneg-2020-08-26T17:24:00.000Z-Article_\"Gennady_Ermak\"_proposed_delition","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! Can You revert this moving to Draft space? Sorry about this request, but this is not a independent pages, it's just a part of a ThinkPad page, and... I must add a sources? But, it's just a list of current models. You can see a older version of these table here, the current page now have a these redlink, that's just a bad result. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 01:34, 31 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-31T01:34:00.000Z","author":"ThisIsNotABetter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-08-31T01:34:00.000Z-ThinkPad_Lineup_draft_moving","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-08-31T01:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

These pages were created as separate articles, which means that they should have some citations. If you mean them to be embedded in the ThinkPad page and other pages, then a template would be a way to do that. ... discospinster _talk 14:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-08-31T01:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-02T18:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z","c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-06T01:39:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for a advice, but why the "template" must be used? Because I have a previous recommendation, and it's has been a recommendation to create a mainspace page. That's a rule collision, or a non-transparent rule? You may see, currently I extensively use a templates in my userspace, and I prefer to use it for embedding code and formulas inside of tables. In my mind, that's a much better way to utilizing of templates power, I think. And one-time usable templates (like these tables), maybe - this is not a better solution (not bad, but non-elegant). ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 18:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-02T18:32:00.000Z","author":"ThisIsNotABetter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-02T18:32:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. Sorry, that's a silly question? ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 01:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-06T01:39:00.000Z","author":"ThisIsNotABetter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-06T01:39:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-08-31T14:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-09-06T18:35:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-06T01:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mainspace pages need citations. ... discospinster _talk 18:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-06T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-09-06T18:35:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-06T01:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-09T01:47:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-09-06T18:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for plain answer. But can You expand it? That's may be impolite, but I must know: why the template pages don't need a sources with the same content?.. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 01:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-09T01:47:00.000Z","author":"ThisIsNotABetter","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-09T01:47:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-09-06T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-09-09T03:26:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-09T01:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Templates are normally part of a larger article which itself would contain citations. ... discospinster _talk 03:26, 9 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-09T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-09-09T03:26:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-09T01:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-12T17:57:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-09-09T03:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's a better answer, thanks! Maybe, the Wiki engine must have a catchy warning block to prevent a creating of slashy sub-pages? That's a relevant request to a dev team, so. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 17:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-12T17:57:00.000Z","author":"ThisIsNotABetter","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-12T17:57:00.000Z-Discospinster-2020-09-09T03:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Discospinster-2020-09-13T22:11:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-12T17:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't think it happens often enough for devs to bother automating it. It's probably better that a human reviews it first. ... discospinster _talk 22:11, 13 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-13T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Discospinster","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Discospinster-2020-09-13T22:11:00.000Z-ThisIsNotABetter-2020-09-12T17:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->