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A belated welcome!

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Sorry - I must have missed that question in the upload process. I've posted a source and removed the template now - is that OK? Mobi Ditch (talk) 09:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-19T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2018-12-19T09:47:00.000Z-Ronhjones-2018-12-15T21:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Issue on Confederate Roll of Honor

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This was a false positive - the content was added by someone else. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Diannaa-2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z-Issue_on_Confederate_Roll_of_Honor","replies":[]}}-->

Control copyright icon Hello Mobi Ditch, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Confederate Roll of Honor have been removed, as they appear to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues here.

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@Diannaa: Thanks for your note. It's a little hard to tell what text you removed. However I'm deducing that it was the same text I added here, in a previous edit: [1]. As you can see, I indicated that I'd copied it from another Wikipedia article, which is permissible. However, it appears that you were able to locate the non-free origin of that text. If that's the text in question, then it appears the text was first added to Wikipedia in 2014, with this edit to Helena Artillery: [2]. If that is all correct, then please let me know so I can rewrite the material in both articles. Also, I seem to recall there may have been other text, without copyright problems, that was added in the same edit. If so, could you please restore it? Mobi Ditch (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-24T20:18:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T20:18:00.000Z-Diannaa-2019-01-24T15:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T23:38:00.000Z-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T20:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
After investigating further, I found that the editor who made the original edit has made a habit of copying material, despite warnings. I've left a comment on his talk page[3] and posted at CCI.[4] Mobi Ditch (talk) 23:38, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-24T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T23:38:00.000Z-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T20:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Diannaa-2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T23:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi Mobi Ditch and thanks for your help investigating this matter. The website that is a match for the prose is this one. Unfortunately the page was never archived by the Wayback machine, but given the dates on the copyright notice at the bottom of the page and the history of the user who added it, I think we have to assume that it was indeed copied from that source. Sorry for not realizing that you'd copied it from another article - for some reason the bot I use detected the second time you added it but not the first. I have cleaned the Helena Artillery article. Regarding Confederate Roll of Honor, the only content I removed was the copyright prose (The roll was to list the names of soldiers from each company who were singled out for valor or good conduct displayed during victorious battles. The names were to be selected by vote of the company members. Companies voted after each battle. A company could also decline to choose a name, and the honor could be awarded posthumously. The completed roll was to be published and read in each regiment, and published in the newspapers across the Confederacy.), replacing it with a new version ( Nominations were made by company members after enemy engagements. The soldiers voted after each battle, and the results were listed in battle reports, read aloud to regiments, and published in newspapers across the Confederacy). While the edit where you added the content was larger than that, that was the only content was removed. I have collapsed my initial notice so that patrollers will realise this was a false positive on your part. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Diannaa-2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-24T23:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-25T01:43:00.000Z-Diannaa-2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for your diligence! Mobi Ditch (talk) 01:43, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-25T01:43:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-25T01:43:00.000Z-Diannaa-2019-01-25T01:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Mobi Ditc

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Hi, is the image on your user page intentionally labelled as 'Mobi Ditc'? JACKINTHEBOXTALK 08:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-26T08:37:00.000Z","author":"JackintheBox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JackintheBox-2019-01-26T08:37:00.000Z-Mobi_Ditc","replies":["c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-26T18:51:00.000Z-JackintheBox-2019-01-26T08:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, it was a typo. Thanks for catching that! Attention to detail is a good trait in an encyclopedia editor. Mobi Ditch (talk) 18:51, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-26T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2019-01-26T18:51:00.000Z-JackintheBox-2019-01-26T08:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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@CommanderWaterford:

I know that "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail". So maybe when you're using an anti-vandalism tool, everything looks like vandalism? I'm trying to understand why you reverted my edit to J. Clator Arrants, calling it "non-constructive".[1] The article failed to indicate the outcome of an election so I added the fact that the bio subject lost, which is covered in the already cited source. Can you explain your decision to me? Mobi Ditch (talk) 09:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC) (Originally posted to User talk:CommanderWaterford[5])

Sure I can explain it to you - you added "unsuccessfully" and "attacking" without giving any sources or references for these additions. Thats all. Have a nice day. CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-12T09:31:00.000Z","author":"CommanderWaterford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CommanderWaterford-2020-07-12T09:31:00.000Z-Your_Edit","replies":["c-Mobi_Ditch-2020-07-12T09:38:00.000Z-CommanderWaterford-2020-07-12T09:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for your prompt reply, but, actually, no. The word "attacked" was already there, I simply changed its tense. As I just wrote to you, and as you could have seen if you'd looked, the existing source for the sentence already has the information so no additional cite was necessary or possible. Did you check the source before reverting my edit? I know you're going fast with your anti-vandalism tool, but you're still responsible for all your edits. Mobi Ditch (talk) 09:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-12T09:38:00.000Z","author":"Mobi Ditch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mobi_Ditch-2020-07-12T09:38:00.000Z-CommanderWaterford-2020-07-12T09:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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