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Just noting that I have cleared my discussion list from this page - please see the archives if you'd like to read prior discussions. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-25T19:11:00.000Z","author":"KieferSkunk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-25T19:11:00.000Z-Discussions_cleared","replies":[]}}-->

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Anyone who's interested: I've started participating a bit more on Wikipedia again, and may start getting more involved in some of my old favorite topics (mostly video games, with the caveat that I am a WP:COI for anything related to Electronic Arts - I work there). I will consider also getting back into helping resolve disputes as I have the time and energy, but only when other things don't take priority.

If there are still debates going on about whether to call Sega's 16-bit console article "Mega Drive" or "Genesis", I'm going to continue to recuse myself from those debates due to past history. Otherwise, I will continue to speak for and support adherence to Wikipedia's policies and pillars, and the spirit of cooperative editing. I hope you will too. :) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:19, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-25T19:19:00.000Z","author":"KieferSkunk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-25T19:19:00.000Z-Back,_sorta","replies":[]}}-->

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Seems like you're back. If you don't mind, it would be greatly valued if you contribute to my Wikiproject Video games Newsletter survey that I'm conducting. To do so, simply answer the question below:

What would you consider the requirements of making a video game series article? What about franchise articles?

If you're interested, ping me here with a response and I'll handle the rest. My previous survey is here for a general example. Panini!^🥪 02:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z","author":"Panini!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Panini!-2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z-Wikiproject_Video_games_Newsletter_survey","replies":["c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T08:40:00.000Z-Panini!-2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z","c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T20:58:00.000Z-Panini!-2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey, thanks for thinking of me. :) Here's my response:

For a game series article, there should be at least three games that are strongly related to one another. In most cases, these are because the games are set in the same universe, have the same characters, relate to the same intellectual property, and/or are part of the same overall storyline. A popular example is the Paper Mario series - the games all center around Mario, and specifically the papercraft version of Mario and the worlds he interacts in, although each game tells its own unique and independent story. Since there are so many factors in common between them (the papercraft style, gameplay mechanics, similarity in writing, etc.), it is proper to refer to them as a series.

A series article should serve two purposes:

Talk about how the series as a whole came about - what prompted it in the first place? For example, Paper Mario was developed in response to Square taking the Final Fantasy franchise to Sony. And
Talk about what the games within the series have in common. This is a good place to describe common controls, common design elements (e.g. Mario's cutout design), etc..

In some cases, a series article can alleviate some of the burden of repeating the same common details in multiple game articles. I recall at one point that we did this with the Puzzle League series (including Tetris Attack), since at the time there were eight games in the series that all played identically. Having a series article can allow you to go into detail about the common rules, and then describe them more briefly in each individual article.

The main difference between a series and a franchise, as I understand it, is that a franchise includes more than just games. I referred to Paper Mario earlier. That's a series of games that resides within the Mario franchise, one of the best known in the world. The franchise spans many game series, but also includes Nintendo's main identity, a definite and recurring cast of characters, its marketing campaigns, a large part of its history, and many other factors that are not strictly video-game related. More to the point, it encompasses the Mario intellectual property in its entirety. Similarly, Final Fantasy is both a series AND a franchise - the games comprise the series, but there are many other things related to the I.P. that Square is very proud of and guards jealously.

A good franchise article covers not only the various series of games within the IP, but also talks in more depth about the relationship between the I.P. and its creators and owners. It is more likely to be a history article than necessarily a descriptive one - for example, in an article about the Mario franchise, I'd expect to see only a few details about Mario's typical controls in games, since that's more appropriate for either the series articles or in individual game articles. I'd turn to the franchise article to learn more about who designed Mario, why and how he became important as Nintendo's primary identity, how he became so popular and recognizable, etc..

There's never any single cut-and-dry rule for writing any of these kinds of articles, of course, but in general I find that series and franchise articles tend to follow somewhat of a common template, since their purposes are usually pretty clear and they convey the same spectrum of information.

(Hope this helps!) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 08:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-28T08:40:00.000Z","author":"KieferSkunk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T08:40:00.000Z-Panini!-2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(Panini! - I think this pings you?) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-28T20:58:00.000Z","author":"KieferSkunk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T20:58:00.000Z-Panini!-2021-05-27T02:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Panini!-2021-05-28T22:22:00.000Z-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

KieferSkunk, yea, hyperlinking someone's username will ping them. Thank you for the response! Panini!^🥪 22:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-28T22:22:00.000Z","author":"Panini!","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Panini!-2021-05-28T22:22:00.000Z-KieferSkunk-2021-05-28T20:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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