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I reverted your edits to Hydrotherapy [1] because you linked to an introduction to the book rather than a page within the book. As such, it looks more like promotion for the book rather than a reference. --Ronz (talk) 18:35, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-04T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Ronz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ronz-2016-11-04T18:35:00.000Z-Hydrotherapy","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, I am quite happy if you wish to remove the reference. However, the reference relates not to hydrotherapy, nor even hydropathy (which would be the correct term for its use during the 19th century, but to Turkish baths in the 19th century. There are no specific page references because the whole book is about Victorian Turkish baths. Furthermore it is the only book to have been written about the subject. I cannot help it if I happen to be its author. It is intended to guide readers to the book in a library, and can hardly be considered an advertisement for a book which, alas, costs between £44 and £63. I have no personal axe to grind. I gave the whole sum paid to me for the Historic England commission to Save the Children. If Turkish baths are mentioned, I think it's a pity that the acknowlededged expert book on the subject is not referenced. (See: http://www.victorianturkishbath.org/EBOOK/5Reviews.htm) including a review which indicates that the book is "a major act of historical recovery"} However, it's not something I would go to the stake for, and I bow to your sense of correctness. Best wishes. Ishpoloni (talk) 19:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)Ishpoloni[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-04T19:19:00.000Z","author":"Ishpoloni","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ishpoloni-2016-11-04T19:19:00.000Z-Hydrotherapy","replies":["c-Ronz-2016-11-04T20:19:00.000Z-Ishpoloni-2016-11-04T19:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've already happily accepted your view 213.160.112.162 (talk) 22:41, 4 November 2016 (UTC)Ishpoloni[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-04T22:41:00.000Z","author":"213.160.112.162","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-213.160.112.162-2016-11-04T22:41:00.000Z-Hydrotherapy","replies":["c-Ronz-2016-11-05T15:27:00.000Z-213.160.112.162-2016-11-04T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
I thought I made it quite clear I was not promoting my own work here; it does not need promoting, and frankly, to someone of my generation, your last post following my complete acceptance of you point of view, was rather impertinent. This conversation is now closed as far as I am concerned. 195.157.66.36 (talk) 17:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)Ishpoloni[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-05T17:35:00.000Z","author":"195.157.66.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-195.157.66.36-2016-11-05T17:35:00.000Z-Hydrotherapy","replies":["c-Ronz-2016-11-06T15:28:00.000Z-195.157.66.36-2016-11-05T17:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for the apology, which is appreciated. Hydrotherapy is not my subject and I doubt I will be adding anythng further. I had thought of adding some clarification to the Turkish baths page, where clarification whas actually requested, but life is too short. I wasn't in fact aware of the document you mentioned, but that is my fault. I should, or course, have read it first. But none of my additions to several subject pages over the years has ever before been questioned. If I refer to a page on my website, that seems OK, but clearly it would have been better not to refer to the book. Purely as a matter of interest, last time I looked at the Turkish baths page someone had inserted a reference solely to a venue in an old Turkish baths which hires itself out for functions (and very expensvely). This time I was the person querying it, but no-one seemed to care. I think the hydrotherapy page is actually much much better than the Tukish baths page! Best wishes. 195.157.66.36 (talk) 17:08, 6 November 2016 (UTC)Ishpoloni[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-06T17:08:00.000Z","author":"195.157.66.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-195.157.66.36-2016-11-06T17:08:00.000Z-Hydrotherapy","replies":[]}}-->
Hello, Ishpoloni,
Thank you for creating Swindon Victorian Turkish baths.
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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Hammam into Bathing. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 22:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240406225200","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Diannaa-20240406225200-Copying_within_Wikipedia_requires_attribution","replies":["c-Ishpoloni-20240407064500-Diannaa-20240406225200"]}}-->
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P.S.
What follows is not a grumble or a complaint but is mentioned purely as a matter of interest because it might be that my lack of attribution might have been down to a subconscious feeling that it was OK to copy the initial Hammam paragraphs.
I just went back to the 'Bathing' page at 11:12, 29 February 2020 (date chosen randomly) and found under the heading 'Hot public baths' four paragraphs which were taken, seemingly without attribution, from the old 'Turkish Baths' page, all but one sentence of which was either written by me or adapted from something on my website. My memory is so bad these days that I can't remember whether I might even have written the original Turkish baths page myself. But I doubt it. I suspect that if I had actually been the writer I would have inserted original sources for each sentence, rather than just a single one to my own website! (See 'Full disclosure' on talk:Victorian Turkish baths)
It really doesn't bother me. As long as the facts are correct, it's fine by me.Ishpoloni (talk) 07:41, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240407074100","author":"Ishpoloni","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ishpoloni-20240407074100-Copying_within_Wikipedia_requires_attribution","replies":["c-Bastun-20240407104900-Ishpoloni-20240407074100"]}}-->
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You will have seen that the City has given permission for a tower to be built over the Bishopsgate Victorian Turkish bath! [3] KJP1 (talk) 15:25, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240604152500","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-20240604152500-Bishopsgate","replies":["c-Ishpoloni-20240604170700-KJP1-20240604152500"]}}-->
See, generally MOS:IMAGELOC. It says that we generally want to avoid squeezing text between an image or infobox on both sides of the screen, and most images should go on the right. Note that, different users have different screen sizes and have choses different font sizes, so this will change how left-aligned interact with headings and text. Where it would be more attractive, or if a figure faces into the page from the left, we sometimes put images on the left side, but you have to be careful about that. Also, sometimes aspects of a long caption can be put in a footnote. It's an art, not a science. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607180500","author":"Ssilvers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ssilvers-20240607180500-Image_placement","replies":["c-Ishpoloni-20240607182600-Ssilvers-20240607180500"]}}-->
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