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CONSIDERING RETIREMENT
Historyday01 is considering retirement, although nothing is set in stone...
Note: I am considering either full retirement or semi-retirement, per what is stated at WP:RETIRE, on December 31st the way things are going. Perhaps I will regain interest, but I'm feeling pretty dispirited these days.--Historyday01 (talk) 17:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804171400","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Historyday01-20240804171400","replies":[]}}-->
Hello!
Feel free to post comments, suggestions, and whatnot, and I'll do my best to respond to them in a timely manner. Please do not ever invite me to participate in AfD discussions as you can't trust anyone there to lend a helping hand, and I know this from experience. July 22nd will live as a day of infamy, a day in which my dastardly block ended.--Historyday01 (talk) 20:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726202500","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Historyday01-20240726202500","replies":[]}}-->
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Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel are usually updated pretty frequently so I'm not going to worry about those.
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Hello! What do you think about characters who weren't (yet) stated or revealed as gay in the adaptation but went through that phase later in the original manga or LN? Skip since the anime hasn't positioned characters this way yet? In some cases this "gay thing" was already in the show, it's just that the adapted chapters at the time didn't confirm it yet. Solaire the knight (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240829084200","author":"Solaire the knight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Solaire_the_knight-20240829084200-Shows_with_LGBTQ_characters_that_were_only_confirmed_later_in_the_original_work","replies":["c-Historyday01-20240831014900-Solaire_the_knight-20240829084200"]}}-->
- How about creating tentative entries for them (and put them in a section on the Talk:List of animated series with LGBT characters: 2020–present page) and IF it is confirmed in the anime adaptation, THEN add it into the main page?--Historyday01 (talk) 01:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831014900","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Historyday01-20240831014900-Solaire_the_knight-20240829084200","replies":["c-Solaire_the_knight-20240831064000-Historyday01-20240831014900"]}}-->
- So you're suggesting we keep it until the anime confirms it too? Solaire the knight (talk) 06:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831064000","author":"Solaire the knight","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Solaire_the_knight-20240831064000-Historyday01-20240831014900","replies":["c-Historyday01-20240831124300-Solaire_the_knight-20240831064000"]}}-->
- Yes, we should keep it until the anime confirms it, but still go to the effort to create tentative entries, if that makes sense. I say that because there's already a sourcing problem with entries across the Lists of animated series with LGBT characters, so I don't want to cause any more issues. Historyday01 (talk) 12:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831124300","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Historyday01-20240831124300-Solaire_the_knight-20240831064000","replies":["c-Solaire_the_knight-20240831135900-Historyday01-20240831124300"]}}-->
- Reasonable. I just noticed that some all-female works have rather platonic anime adaptations, while further LN or manga confirms the relationships of the characters or at least the identity of one of them. But if we think about it, we won’t always be able to say that the author had this in mind back then. Solaire the knight (talk) 13:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831135900","author":"Solaire the knight","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Solaire_the_knight-20240831135900-Historyday01-20240831124300","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello! The Kanojo mo Kanojo controversy once again reminded me of one thing. Since some characters are obviously worthy or could potentially be on different LGBTQ lists, in controversial cases this leads to the fact that a dispute about a particular character can affect several pages at once, including their show. In this case, the dispute about Saki was actually divided into three parts, which is why I even had to decide to freeze the dispute in other articles, so as not to waste energy on 3 disputes about the same thing at once and in the future decide on them based on the original discussions on the front page talk page. What do you think about this? Is there a way to somehow resolve the issue of intersections to avoid such cases in the future? I haven't looked at the other pages, but remembering our conversation, I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar ends up in the same story. Not to mention that articles about trans and lesbian characters seem to simply duplicate information about such characters from the general list. Or even includes many characters that have already been removed from the main as original research. Solaire the knight (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030234800","author":"Solaire the knight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Solaire_the_knight-20241030234800-List_intersection","replies":["c-Historyday01-20241031010500-Solaire_the_knight-20241030234800"]}}-->
- Hmm, you make a good point here. Maybe we can make an informal list (I could refashion one of my sandboxes for it) of characters which are disputed which span different pages? It might be useful. However, it could take time to assemble a list and decide which characters are disputed. Historyday01 (talk) 01:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031010500","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Historyday01-20241031010500-Solaire_the_knight-20241030234800","replies":["c-Solaire_the_knight-20241031021700-Historyday01-20241031010500"]}}-->
- This is a good idea, but I naturally do not require you to do this immediately or against your wishes. This is a global issue, so it can be left for later. Just to keep that in mind, as they say. Solaire the knight (talk) 02:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031021700","author":"Solaire the knight","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Solaire_the_knight-20241031021700-Historyday01-20241031010500","replies":[]}}-->
