Hi, noticed you're somewhat the resident expert on the fine clubs of the West Lands league, and have written some good articles. I created a small article for Eagley F.C. in one of my 'argh, a red link, destroy it!' moments, using info gleaned from other articles. However, it could use your touch. Also, the article on Eagley, if you know anything of the place. Cheers and happy wiki'ing! Grunners15:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-26T15:40:00.000Z","author":"Grunners","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grunners-2007-01-26T15:40:00.000Z-Eagley_F.C.","replies":["c-Grunners-2007-01-26T15:45:00.000Z-Grunners-2007-01-26T15:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
Oh, and you may want to check any club articles you create are linked to from List of football clubs in England. Grunners15:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-26T15:45:00.000Z","author":"Grunners","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grunners-2007-01-26T15:45:00.000Z-Grunners-2007-01-26T15:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
No, I wouldn't say they're too small. Nowhere on the article does it say it's a list of clubs above a certain level, and there's some other equally small teams on there. Grunners18:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-30T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Grunners","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grunners-2007-01-30T18:00:00.000Z-Eagley_F.C.","replies":[]}}-->
Further to your edits to the page today, I would like to add an Infobox on the page similar to those on other club pages. Yesterday I added a basic infobox to the Wyre Villa F.C. page. Unfortunately I do not know the Wyre Villa second kit so made it all white for now. However, for Blackpool Wren Rovers, do you know the following that can be included in the infobox?
Manager
Capacity
Second Kit colours (inc sock colours)
If it is ok would you leave the info on my talk page? Or if you would prefer to add the infobox yourself, by all means do!
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Hi, many thanks for your response. I will add the details to the pages. I also just realised that the Blackpool Gazette might have some of the information from their match reports, so I will check their online site. ♦ BFC ♦·Talk14:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-06T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Tangerines","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tangerines-2007-04-06T14:56:00.000Z-Blackpool_Wren_Rovers_F.C.","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2666 BFC \u2666"}}-->
Hi, thanks for your message. I wasn't casting any doubt as to whether the three clubs should be included in the West Lancashire League (WLL) article. I was pointing out that there was no evidence to show that they competed in the WLL given that wikipedia is strict in having reliable verifiable sources. The other teams it is mentioned that they competed in the WLL, but Great Harwood Town F.C. and Kendal Town F.C. don't mention them playing (under the previous names) in the WLL. The official Kendal website I see now does mention they played for 3 seasons in the 1930s in the WLL so fair enough. However, the way the section is it comes across as if these are clubs who were WLL regulars who have gone on to bigger and better things. Yet Kendal (as Netherfield) played just three seasons in the league. I think the section is a good idea but (in my opinion) it should be much more than just a list of clubs - which is why I added details, again partly to get away from it just being a list. Perhaps it would be better if you wish to include the likes of Kendal (Netherfield) who have only played a very short time in the league, that each clubs entry is slightly expanded upon. Also I removed all the line breaks you had placed in as they were not required. Still good work though, the only thing that needs done and is perhaps more important than a list of clubs who have plated at a higher level is adjusting the season to 2007-08 and the correct teams in each division. As you clearly have a lot of very good knowledge about the league, anc created most of the articles perhaps you could do that? Have fun! ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk23:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-24T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Tangerines","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tangerines-2007-06-24T23:23:00.000Z-West_Lancashire_League","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2666Tangerines BFC \u2666"}}-->
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Were all the "Player of the decade" accolades awarded on Tuesday, or just Humphreys'? - Dudesleeper / Talk13:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-07T13:46:00.000Z","author":"Dudesleeper","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dudesleeper-2008-05-07T13:46:00.000Z-Billy_Ayre","replies":["c-Higherwiki-2008-05-08T00:42:00.000Z-Dudesleeper-2008-05-07T13:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
Dudesleeper - The "Player of the decade" accolades were all announced on Tuesday, May 6th. Special votes were taken on these categories because Hartlepool United is celebrating its centenary this year - Higherwiki (talk) 00:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-08T00:42:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2008-05-08T00:42:00.000Z-Dudesleeper-2008-05-07T13:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I was unaware of Stoke City's previous name. Thanks for correcting it. --Tocino21:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-24T21:07:00.000Z","author":"Tocino","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tocino-2008-05-24T21:07:00.000Z-Stoke_City","replies":[]}}-->
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Do you have a source for the FA rejecting the Corinthian League name? Cheers, Number5715:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-09T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Number 57","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Number_57-2019-11-09T15:10:00.000Z-Athenian_League_name","replies":[],"displayName":"Number"}}-->
Yes, my source for the Athenian League name change is the Athenian Football League minutes 1912-1921 which are held at National Football Museum in Preston. Apparently the name 'Home Counties League' was also suggested before the name Athenian League was found to be acceptable. Higherwiki (talk) 15:47, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-09T15:47:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2019-11-09T15:47:00.000Z-Athenian_League_name","replies":["c-Number_57-2019-11-10T00:35:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-11-09T15:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
Could you add it to the article? Cheers, Number5700:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-10T00:35:00.000Z","author":"Number 57","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Number_57-2019-11-10T00:35:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-11-09T15:47:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Number"}}-->
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Why did you undo my revisions of this article yesterday while I was still in the process of making corrections to try and get it into an acceptable format? As the article stands it is full of inaccuracies and omissions. It's alright writing that 'sources say 1897' but this is not a good enough reason if the particular source is wrong in what it says. I have thought for a long time that this is an article that needs an almost complete re-write. In particular - the birth year is wrong - it should be 1895; the birth place is wrong - it should be Waddington (near Clitheroe); the information about him being a professional is wrong - he was an amateur throughout his playing career; there is no mention of him playing for Fleetwood FC; there is no mention of him playing for the England Amateur International team - he made 5 appearances; there is no mention of him being picked to play for Amateurs v. Professionals in an FA Charity Shield match; etc. Of course one of the first corrections needed is that the title of the article ought to be 'James Mitchell (footballer, born 1895)'. Please let me know what authority I need for you to allow me to update the article. - Higherwiki / Talk22:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-16T22:21:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2019-12-16T22:21:00.000Z-James_Mitchell_(footballer,_born_1897)","replies":["c-GiantSnowman-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-12-16T22:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information. What sources do you have for 1895/Fleetwood etc.? All the ones present on the article say 1897. GiantSnowman09:31, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z","author":"GiantSnowman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GiantSnowman-2019-12-17T09:31:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-12-16T22:21:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Giant"}}-->
Thankyou for the reply about reliable sources. I believe that my sources are more reliable than some of the current sources referenced in this article. In particular: The GRO online index of deaths gives his birthdate as 18 November 1895. The 1939 Register also gives this birthdate. The 1911 Census gives his age as 15 (agreeing with a birth year of 1895), and gives his birthplace as Waddington, Yorkshire. The ENFA website (which includes updated information from Michael Joyce) gives a birthdate of 18 Nov 1895 and a birthplace of Waddington (Lancashire) [NOTE: Waddington was actually in Yorkshire at the time of his birth - I am a contributor to ENFA and will suggest this be corrected]. The England Football Online website also gives this same birthdate/birthplace information. The 1920-21 Lancashire Daily Post Football Handbook lists him as a Fleetwood FC player. I also have references for his England Amateur International appearances, and for his FA Charity Shield appearance. He was never a professional. As I said previously, one of the first corrections needed is that the title of the article ought to be 'James Mitchell (footballer, born 1895)'. I hope that this all sounds ok to you. Please let me know if you have any further comments (NOTE : apologies I originally updated your 2019 archive talk page, but have since undone this update). - Higherwiki / Talk16:16, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-22T16:16:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2019-12-22T16:16:00.000Z-James_Mitchell_(footballer,_born_1897)","replies":["c-GiantSnowman-2019-12-22T16:45:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-12-22T16:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
You need to present this information and sources on the article talk page and seek consensus to make such major changes. GiantSnowman16:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-22T16:45:00.000Z","author":"GiantSnowman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GiantSnowman-2019-12-22T16:45:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2019-12-22T16:16:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Giant"}}-->
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F5pillar - I don't understand why you have reverted my edit to this entry. As Peter Daniel did not make any Football League appearances for Derby County in the 1971-72 season, how can it be one of his honours that Derby County were Football League First Division champions that season? You have commented that this is also a source of information, but surely this is information related only to Derby County and not to Peter Daniel (and as you would expect the honour is appropriately listed on the Derby County wikipedia page). - Higherwiki / Talk14:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-08T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2020-06-08T14:55:00.000Z-Peter_Daniel_(footballer,_born_1946)","replies":["c-F5pillar-2020-06-09T09:12:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2020-06-08T14:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Previously there were two articles for Lawrence Cook - one as a footballer and one as a cricketer. It is the same person. I have now updated and improved the Lawrence Cook (cricketer) article to include both his football and cricket careers. Hence Lawrence Cook (footballer) is now redundant. I hope that this ok - Higherwiki (talk) 14:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-02T14:39:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2021-02-02T14:39:00.000Z-Lawrence_Cook_(footballer)","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. I disagree that this article should be deleted WP:NFOOTY WP:GNG. Jack Gordon was one of the leading professional footballers of the late 1880s and early 1890s. He played for Preston North End when they did the double in 1888-89, that season they were winners of the first ever Football League championship plus the FA Cup. I have added an Honours section to the article to try and make this more clear. I originally created this article in 2008, but have not updated it since. The article has been expanded by other contributors, but I can see that more information could be added. I will look at improving the article in the next few days. I hope that this is ok - Higherwiki (talk) 15:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-07T15:53:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2021-02-07T15:53:00.000Z-Bring_back_Daz_Sampson-2021-02-07T13:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hello. I have now updated this article with more information about his birth and his life after finishing as a footballer. As I say, I believe this article is notable and should not be deleted. There is one further change needed - the article title will need to be updated as his correct birth year is actually 1861. I hope that this is ok - Higherwiki (talk) 12:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-11T12:36:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2021-02-11T12:36:00.000Z-Bring_back_Daz_Sampson-2021-02-07T13:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Why have you partially reverted my update to the John Hiatt template to remove the reference to Leftover Feelings, his latest CD release? I realise that at this time there is no wikipedia page for Leftover Feelings, but this does not mean the CD does not exist (and it appearing in red should act as a prompt that a page does eventually get created). - Higherwiki (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-18T13:55:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2021-09-18T13:55:00.000Z-Template:_John_Hiatt","replies":["c-Jax_0677-2021-09-19T09:36:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2021-09-18T13:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yes, OK. However I think logically a page first needs to be created for his earlier CD Mystic Pinball (2012). As you suggest I'll create a wikipedia page for Leftover Feelings (I'll also create one for Mystic Pinball). As there is currently no page for Mystic Pinball I would prefer that you do not remove its existence from the John Hiatt template. - Higherwiki (talk) 19:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-21T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2021-09-21T19:55:00.000Z-Template:_John_Hiatt","replies":[]}}-->
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I have the CD, and there is an insert booklet which contains the wording 'All songs written by Vic Chesnutt except "Stevie Smith" adapted from the Stevie Smith poem "Not Waving But Drowning"'. Surely that will be a good enough source. - Higherwiki (talk) 12:48, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-06T12:48:00.000Z","author":"Higherwiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Higherwiki-2022-03-06T12:48:00.000Z-Little_(album)","replies":["c-Doctorhawkes-2022-03-07T07:46:00.000Z-Higherwiki-2022-03-06T12:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
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