Template talk:Welsh devolution

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Federalism

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@DankJae I agree that Proposed United Kingdom Confederation is essentially a form of independence within a confederal union rather than devolution. Federalism in the United Kingdom on the other hand is heavily associated with devolution and proposals for a federal UK have virtually always included some form of greater devolution or influence for the devolved governments. Titus Gold (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230112215900","author":"Titus Gold","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Titus_Gold-20230112215900-Federalism","replies":["c-DankJae-20230112224100-Titus_Gold-20230112215900"]}}-->

@Titus Gold, While I'd argue federalism is not part of devolution (two forms of dispersing sovereignty), I'll accept it being re-added if its worded like "Federalism (alternative)" / "Federalism (related)"? Clearly stating its not part of devolution itself but related, to any reader. DankJae 22:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230112224100","author":"DankJae","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DankJae-20230112224100-Titus_Gold-20230112215900","replies":[],"displayName":"Dank"}}-->
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Images and flagdeco

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@DankJae I think the template looks less interesting and attractive without the images and flagdeco. Titus Gold (talk) 15:13, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230223151300","author":"Titus Gold","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Titus_Gold-20230223151300-Images_and_flagdeco","replies":["c-Titus_Gold-20230223151600-Titus_Gold-20230223151300","c-DankJae-20230223151600-Titus_Gold-20230223151300"]}}-->

I now see that the guidelines advice against images and flags. I think this is overly restrictive to be honest. Titus Gold (talk) 15:16, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230223151600","author":"Titus Gold","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Titus_Gold-20230223151600-Titus_Gold-20230223151300","replies":[]}}-->
@Titus Gold, While I do agree that it looks less interesting, that is not navboxes are really for. And most readers will not see them. Tbh was gutted when I remembered WP:NAVIMAGES but in the end it makes sense and is policy. Images may look good to one person but distracting to another.
By the end of the day, Wikipedia is for information not images. DankJae 15:16, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230223151600","author":"DankJae","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DankJae-20230223151600-Titus_Gold-20230223151300","replies":["c-Titus_Gold-20230223151800-DankJae-20230223151600"],"displayName":"Dank"}}-->
Shame but there we go. Thanks for your recent work on the templates. Titus Gold (talk) 15:18, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230223151800","author":"Titus Gold","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Titus_Gold-20230223151800-DankJae-20230223151600","replies":[]}}-->

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