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I've added Miller cycle since I saw it mentioned a lot on other pages, but perhaps it should not be in the template but rather be mentioned on the otto cycle page? -- Lio07:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-29T07:24:00.000Z","author":"Lio","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lio-2005-12-29T07:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Not much seen outside France and named for Gustave-Adolphe Hirn but needed for completeness [1]Cutler12:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-15T12:17:00.000Z","author":"Cutler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cutler-2006-03-15T12:17:00.000Z-Hirn_cycle","replies":[]}}-->
The Wankel uses an otto cycle doesn't it? --Gbleem10:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-12T10:37:00.000Z","author":"Gbleem","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gbleem-2007-01-12T10:37:00.000Z-Wankel","replies":[]}}-->
Hi Mikiemike
You did some changes on [2].
Are you sure that Regenerative cycle, Rankine cycle, Kalina cycle are not phase change cycles?
e.g. Rankine cycle Quote: "...Process 1-2: The high pressure liquid enters a boiler where it is heated at constant pressure by an external heat source to become a saturated vapor...". Liquid and vapor are two different phases, as far as I know.
--Glenn15:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-31T15:55:00.000Z","author":"Glenn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Glenn-2007-05-31T15:55:00.000Z-Template:Thermodynamic_cycles_changes","replies":["c-Glenn-2007-06-02T06:06:00.000Z-Glenn-2007-05-31T15:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Have now got an answer from Mikiemike. --Glenn06:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-02T06:06:00.000Z","author":"Glenn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Glenn-2007-06-02T06:06:00.000Z-Glenn-2007-05-31T15:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I see that you're trying to get the Navigation template to accommodate groups and subgroups. Template:Carbohydrates might serve as a model for how to accomplish this.
Separately, having external links in the template is extremely unorthodox. I see that they're provided in place of as-yet-unwritten articles, but what would be better -- if you get the chance -- is to use those references to start stub articles for each of the redlinks, and include them in "References" or "External links".--Father Goose00:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T00:47:00.000Z","author":"Father Goose","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Father_Goose-2007-07-10T00:47:00.000Z-Various_problems_with_nonstandard_formatting","replies":["c-Sno2-2007-07-11T01:25:00.000Z-Father_Goose-2007-07-10T00:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
I kind of liked it being narrow....so that it could be inserted next to the text...now seems to be used way down on the bottom of articles...with it next to text you could easily look up what you wanted to see while you were reading... Sno201:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-11T01:25:00.000Z","author":"Sno2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sno2-2007-07-11T01:25:00.000Z-Father_Goose-2007-07-10T00:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T02:23:00.000Z-Sno2-2007-07-11T01:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
When it was used in the Hot air engine article in its narrow form and flushed left at top, the article text was squished down to a width of about an inch (2.54 cm) because the article was squished btween the narrow template on the right and the diagram that was flushed left at about that same level. So the article had a narrow, difficult to read template on the right and a narrow text space of about one inch, both of which led to poor readabilty. - mbeychok02:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-11T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Mbeychok","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T02:23:00.000Z-Sno2-2007-07-11T01:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T05:34:00.000Z-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T02:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Father Goose, I like what you have done. Now if only someone could get those small links at very top left (v d e) into it as they are for the "Navigation" formatting. Thanks for your work. - mbeychok05:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-11T05:34:00.000Z","author":"Mbeychok","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T05:34:00.000Z-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T02:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Father_Goose-2007-07-11T07:51:00.000Z-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T05:34:00.000Z"]}}-->
There's no "parent template" to edit anymore, which is why (v d e) is gone. The new formatting is nothing more than a table using the CSS formatting for the "navbox" class, which is defined in MediaWiki:Common.css.--Father Goose07:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-11T07:51:00.000Z","author":"Father Goose","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Father_Goose-2007-07-11T07:51:00.000Z-Mbeychok-2007-07-11T05:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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This is pretty rare. Should this be removed? It confuses if it appears twice in exclusive columns. Donebythesecondlaw (talk) 08:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-05T08:36:00.000Z","author":"Donebythesecondlaw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donebythesecondlaw-2008-06-05T08:36:00.000Z-Joule\/Brayton_cycle_with_external_heating","replies":[]}}-->
Agreed.--137.205.174.41 (talk) 11:04, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-26T11:04:00.000Z","author":"137.205.174.41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-137.205.174.41-2014-08-26T11:04:00.000Z-Joule\/Brayton_cycle_with_external_heating","replies":[]}}-->
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Why are Staged Combustion, Gas Generator, and the Expander Cycle listed like thermodynamic cycles?
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I like rockets too but these are pretty specialized terms that are basically applications of other listed cycles (brayton for the first two, supercritical rankine for the third).
Also expander is external combustion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4900:D858:3D91:BC34:DDD0:182 (talk) 08:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-29T08:39:00.000Z","author":"2601:647:4900:D858:3D91:BC34:DDD0:182","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2601:647:4900:D858:3D91:BC34:DDD0:182-2017-06-29T08:39:00.000Z-Why_are_Staged_Combustion,_Gas_Generator,_and_the_Expander_Cycle_listed_like_the","replies":[]}}-->
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