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Splitting off books which are not HDM

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user:Woodensuperman you don't want the companion books split off as you think it "unnecessary" and you don't want the text altered so as to 'include' the companions as it is "messy". Surely accuracy trumps anything. The companions are NOT part of HDM and the current projection is that several more are going to be published in the next few years, therefore if continued, 5 or 6 books will be listed as part of HDM, which are not part of it at all! How do we make this both accurate and neat in your opinion? Pincrete (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","author":"Pincrete","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z-Splitting_off_books_which_are_not_HDM","replies":["c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:34:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:39:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:42:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is also inaccurate to refer to the Book of Dust series as a "companion" book. A split is not necessary at this stage. Why not wait until there are more of the Book of Dust series, then we could have three subheading splits under the HDM banner, or however reliable sources then refer to these. --wooden superman 08:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T08:34:00.000Z","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:34:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"wooden"}}-->

Also don't forget that {{His Dark Materials}} exists, which goes into more specific detail on the series. This navbox is here as an overview of Pullman's works, so should be kept simple. --wooden superman 08:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T08:39:00.000Z","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:39:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"wooden"}}-->

I've made a further revision. I know the article for La Belle Sauvage doesn't exist yet, but we couldn't have an empty group. What do you think? --wooden superman 08:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T08:42:00.000Z","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:42:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-12T16:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-*Treker-2017-10-13T08:49:00.000Z-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"wooden"}}-->

We can just follow guidelines and wait until the book comes out and not add redirects to navboxes. This is a problem that will solve itself soon enough, no need to rush.★Trekker (talk) 08:49, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T08:49:00.000Z","author":"*Treker","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-*Treker-2017-10-13T08:49:00.000Z-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T08:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pincrete-2017-10-13T09:08:00.000Z-*Treker-2017-10-13T08:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2605Trekker"}}-->

I agree with 42Treker that we don't need to create a section for the Book of Dust trio yet. If 'companion' isn't the best term, how about another, 'related'? Pincrete (talk) 09:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T09:08:00.000Z","author":"Pincrete","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Pincrete-2017-10-13T09:08:00.000Z-*Treker-2017-10-13T08:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T09:44:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-13T09:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Let's just leave it as it was and then split into groups when the article for La Belle Sauvage is created. --wooden superman 09:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T09:44:00.000Z","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T09:44:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-13T09:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pincrete-2017-10-13T10:28:00.000Z-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T09:44:00.000Z"],"displayName":"wooden"}}-->

Sorry, but I still think we need to distinguish HDM trilogy from 'related/companion' books, either with a distinct 'group' or textually. Pincrete (talk) 10:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T10:28:00.000Z","author":"Pincrete","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Pincrete-2017-10-13T10:28:00.000Z-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T09:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T11:18:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-13T10:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, La Belle Sauvage should be out next week, there should be an article soon after. Then we can go with my suggestion. Until then, best to leave as is. Remember that this is an overview of all of his work - we don't really need to make the differentiation. --wooden superman 11:18, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-13T11:18:00.000Z","author":"Woodensuperman","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Woodensuperman-2017-10-13T11:18:00.000Z-Pincrete-2017-10-13T10:28:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"wooden"}}-->