PROFILPELAJAR.COM

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Encantadia template.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

This template is within the scope of WikiProject Soap Operas, an effort to build consistent guidelines for and improve articles about soap operas and telenovelas on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit WikiProject Soap Operas, where you can join the project and/or the discussion.Soap OperasWikipedia:WikiProject Soap OperasTemplate:WikiProject Soap Operassoap opera

Television

This template is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion. For how to use this banner template, see its documentation.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision

Tambayan Philippines

This template is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related

Media franchises

This template is within the scope of WikiProject Media franchises, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to media franchises on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Media franchisesWikipedia:WikiProject Media franchisesTemplate:WikiProject Media franchisesmedia franchise

This page is not a forum for general discussion about Encantadia. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this template. You may wish to ask factual questions about Encantadia at the Reference desk.

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notes-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z-Notes"],"text":"Notes","linkableTitle":"Notes"}-->

Notes

__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notes-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z-Notes"]}}-->

__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T09:08:00.000Z-Jojit_fb-2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-03-01T09:08:00.000Z"}__-->__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__-->__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__-->

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notes-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z-Notes"],"text":"Notes","linkableTitle":"Notes"}-->

Hi. This template is just a prototype, and is not yet meant for use. Please join the discussion on this talk page or here. Thanks. --Mercurio 09:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Mercury McKinnon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z-Notes","replies":["c-Jojit_fb-2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Mercurio"}}-->

Why did you remove the other characters that I added? I think that these characters (Agane, Hitano, Ornia, Animus etc) contribute heavily to the whole saga. For example, the death of Animus triggered the war between Etheria and the rest of Encantadia. It is important that these characters should be included in the template because they are major characters. Also, if my suggestion that I stated in the Encantadia talk page will be implemented then this template would serve as a supplement to the absence of the information about the Encantadia universe. --Jojit fb 05:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z","author":"Jojit fb","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jojit_fb-2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-02-25T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T09:08:00.000Z-Jojit_fb-2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, Jojit. I'm sorry I wasn't able to immediately explain why I took out some of the characters you added. (I had internet trouble and wasn't able to save my Talk.)

As I say below, my idea of the navigation box is to be an overview of Encantadia. Apparently, your view is different - that it be an information supplement.

I agree that Animus is important, but I don't consider him a major character in the story/saga. I feel he is a footnote rather than necessary knowledge. You don't need to know about Animus to get an idea of what the Encantadia series is about. To make an analogy, Emre is definitely important as the creator of Encantadia and the elemental jewels. However, story-wise he is a minor character. Let's discuss further. Thanks. --Mercurio 09:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-01T09:08:00.000Z","author":"Mercury McKinnon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T09:08:00.000Z-Jojit_fb-2006-03-01T05:01:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Mercurio"}}-->

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Characters-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z-Characters"],"text":"Characters","linkableTitle":"Characters"}-->

Characters

__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Characters-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z-Characters"]}}-->

__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z-Characters","timestamp":"2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z"}__-->__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__-->__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__-->

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Characters-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z-Characters"],"text":"Characters","linkableTitle":"Characters"}-->

Which characters should be included in the navigation box?

I conceived the navigation box to be an overview of the entire Encantadia saga. An overview must be concise, so I think the navigation box must also reflect that. Also, another characteristic of a good overview is that it is inviting, especially to people who are reading about the topic for the first time. By giving readers a well-measured introductory "bite", a good overview encourages them to read further. On the flip side, an overview/navigation box that looks overwhelming may discourage readers as being "too much to swallow".

For these reasons, I thought to include only the saga's major characters in the navigation box. (By the way, I deliberately chose to refer to Encantadia as a "saga" to highlight its epic feel.) Lesser characters can always be "discovered" in the complete character listings in each series' article. The next question is to determine what makes a character "major" in order to see which ones qualify.

I think a major character is one that was significant throughout the saga. (Again, this follows from the premise that the overview is of the entire saga, not just of one book.) Encantadia consists of 3 Books so far, so characters that were important in all 3 would be the "most major" characters. Characters who featured in 2 out of the 3 Books, would be the "second-most major".

No one will argue that the 4 Sang'gre sisters and Ybrahim are the saga's primary, "most major" characters. I also think that most will consider the royals Mine-a, Raquim, Hagorn, Asval and Cassiopea --due to their significance in the history of Encantadia (as shown in Books 1 & 2) -- major characters.

If including only the above 10 first-level characters is not enough to give an overview of the saga (which I think is the case), we may also consider the next-level major characters. Personally, I think we can include:

Gurna, Aquil, Imaw and Evades - They have each appeared in at least 2 Books, and, although they themselves played supporting rather than primary roles, they had significant relationships with first-level major characters. Imaw I particularly want to include to have a representative of Adamya.
Lira, Mira, Kahlil and Cassandra - Aside from Lira and Cassandra having appeared in 2 Books, they also have significant relationships with first-level major characters. Additionally, I think presenting the concept of a younger generation of characters (in contrast to the senior generation of Mine-a, Hagorn, et al) would be interesting/appealing.
The 4 surviving Herans - They played major roles in Book 2 (as counterparts to the 4 Sang'gre sisters), and it's looking like they'll still be significant in Book 3. Also, I want to include representatives of Etheria.

My exceptions:

Muros, Apek, Wantuk, Wahid, Banak, Nakba - Though they've appeared in more than one series, their roles weren't major (so far).
Anthony - Major role in Book 1, but not essential to the overall saga.

--Mercurio 08:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z","author":"Mercury McKinnon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mercury_McKinnon-2006-03-01T08:54:00.000Z-Characters","replies":[],"displayName":"Mercurio"}}-->

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mulawin-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z-Mulawin"],"text":"Mulawin","linkableTitle":"Mulawin"}-->

Mulawin

__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mulawin-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z-Mulawin"]}}-->

__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z-Mulawin","timestamp":"2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z"}__-->__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__-->__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__-->

__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Mulawin-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z-Mulawin"],"text":"Mulawin","linkableTitle":"Mulawin"}-->

'm adding Mulawin here based on this source.--[[User:Buhay Tao|Buhay Tao (ᜊᜓᜑᜌ᜔ ᜆᜂ)]] ([[User talk:Buhay Tao|Buhay Tao (ᜊᜓᜑᜌ᜔ ᜆᜂ)]]) (talk) 17:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z","author":"Buhay Tao","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buhay_Tao-2010-01-30T17:24:00.000Z-Mulawin","replies":[],"displayName":"[[User:Buhay Tao|Buhay Tao (\u170a\u1713\u1711\u170c\u1714 \u1706\u1702)]] ([[User talk:Buhay Tao|Buhay Tao (\u170a\u1713\u1711\u170c\u1714 \u1706\u1702)]])"}}-->