Talk:Ralph Cifaretto

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Ralph wanted Jackie gone

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This article suggests Ralph's inspiring Jackie to hold up the poker game, and subsequently run away/get shot was an accident. But Ralph chose to tell Jackie this story on the night Ralph had a game going. Ralph would have known that Jackie's fate would be in his hands if Jackie robbed Ralph's game. Then after it went ahead, Ralph just opted to have Jackie leave and never come back. This suggests to me that Ralph just wanted Jackie out of his life; he wanted to fuck Jackie's mother in peace and not put up with Jackie's disrespect and demands for backup in his smalltime x dealing, or Ralph may have realised that Jackie was thinking about jumping ship and sending his taste to Chris, who offered to be Jackie's captain in the pizza parlour (I like this theory, because why else would this scene have been written in by Chase, knowing that Jackie would be dead before he could take up the offer?). Finally, I reckon Ralph wanted Jackie gone but - at first - not necessarily dead. That's why he just left Jackie in the projects, Ralph would have been happy with that situation continuing, but had him killed just because Tony told him he had to make a decision, and the only alternative was giving Jackie a pass.

I dont think Ralph did it on purpose. Look at how he reacts after jackie robs the game and Ralph knows he has to make a decision, he seems genuinely bothered by it.

I loved Ralphie because he's the craziest fucking bastard to grace the series, I loved him being a loose cannon with all his gladiator shit, and after he beat that girl to death his reply to everything was 'she was a HOOAH! a HOOAH!' just saying that word 'whore' in such a ridiculously funny way slightly out of step with the rest of his accent. --86.141.51.41 12:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-12-09T12:06:00.000Z","author":"86.141.51.41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-86.141.51.41-2006-12-09T12:06:00.000Z-Ralph_wanted_Jackie_gone","replies":[]}}-->

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Reference in season 2?

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I think Carmela referenced his name at the end of season two. I just want to know if someone could possibly put this in this article. Even though he was never shown in season two I just want the article to say he was mentioned. User:Chasesboys

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Redirect or Not

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I don't understand exactly why Ralph himself isn't important enough to warrant a page, as opposed to other characters, like Richie Aprile or Jackie Aprile, both of whom have a weaker plot-relevance, little citations to assert their notability, and also a plot summary-type article. It's a discrepancy that makes little sense, and either a cleanup of those articles or the approval of this article would straighten that out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnyGuy (talkcontribs) 02:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z","author":"AnyGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z-Redirect_or_Not","replies":["c-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T03:10:00.000Z-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z","c-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T04:30:00.000Z-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z","c-TAnthony-2019-08-28T13:56:00.000Z-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

  • I've since edited the page with this reference and more, and will wait to see if it is approved.AnyGuy (talk) 04:30, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-28T04:30:00.000Z","author":"AnyGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T04:30:00.000Z-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for adding some sources and making an effort to improve the article. No one is saying that Ralph "isn't important enough" to warrant a page. I'm sure the sources are out there. It's just that the content of your last restoration does meet the criteria for an individual character article. WP:GNG requires that a topic have received "significant coverage in reliable sources". Ralph is only mentioned casually in the sources you provided. That said, the articles in Category:The Sopranos characters that I've looked at so far are just as undersourced, don't be surprised if they are eventually redirected for the same reason.— TAnthonyTalk 13:56, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-08-28T13:56:00.000Z","author":"TAnthony","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TAnthony-2019-08-28T13:56:00.000Z-AnyGuy-2019-08-28T02:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
  • Thank you. I was wondering though, if the fact that his murder of Tracee caused a drop in HBO subscription counts as significant. If not, I'll leave it be.

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