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I have posted a comment on the titling of this article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation.PeterWD (talk) 19:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-17T19:52:00.000Z","author":"PeterWD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PeterWD-2012-08-17T19:52:00.000Z-Title_for_article_Mus\u00e9e_de_l'Air","replies":["c-MilborneOne-2012-08-17T20:05:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-17T19:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Users please do not copy and past content of this article as a means of moving it, if anybody wants to move it can they please start a move discussion per Wikipedia:Requested moves, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 20:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-17T20:05:00.000Z","author":"MilborneOne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MilborneOne-2012-08-17T20:05:00.000Z-PeterWD-2012-08-17T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nimbus227-2012-08-17T20:08:00.000Z-MilborneOne-2012-08-17T20:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Would oppose any move from the current title FWIW. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-17T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Nimbus227","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nimbus227-2012-08-17T20:08:00.000Z-MilborneOne-2012-08-17T20:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-PeterWD-2012-08-17T20:11:00.000Z-Nimbus227-2012-08-17T20:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nimbus"}}-->

I oppose any further title move for this article.PeterWD (talk) 20:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-17T20:11:00.000Z","author":"PeterWD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-PeterWD-2012-08-17T20:11:00.000Z-Nimbus227-2012-08-17T20:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I oppose Nimbus's and PeterWD's opposition. Truncating the institution's name on Wikipedia makes the article inaccurate, as would shortening the article title for "National Air and Space Museum" (in Washington) to just "National Air Museum", or more concisely "Air Museum", which is what editors have erroneously done in the past. The institution is offically and widely known as the "Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace". An editor in the past has gone so far as to write within the lede that the museum's name was officially changed to the shorter "Musée de l'Air" --as far as can be seen a complete fabrication which was corrected today.

A further issue is that on first view there is little context to the shorter name to assist readers. Musée de l'Air, literally 'Air Museum', at first has a similar construction to such titles as 'Marine Museum of....' (which WP has several articles on). 'Air and Space Museum' sets the context as a museum of aerospace technology; similarly 'Aviation Museum' and 'Aircraft Museum' lets readers know immediately what the article concerns, while 'Air Museum' is ambiguous and doesn't. Of course if you're an aviator or involved with aviation, you can infer its an aviation museum, which is still an improper title since the museum is an Air AND Space Museum. If you have doubts, just go to their website or look at the infobox photo which prominently features an Arienspace rocket. Sorry, "Musée de l'Air" (Air Museum) doesn't cut the mustard, and if you look at the MOS:Titles, as I've pointed out, key requirements are:

• "Conciseness – Titles are concise, and not overly long." At six words, it is one word longer than "National Air and Space Museum" -hardly 'overly long'. Also:
• "Precision – Titles usually use names and terms that are precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but not overly precise." -here the title which implies the museum is only an aviation museum fails. The museum is both an aviation AND space technology museum.

Again, if you insist that the article should be titled only as the 'Musée de l'Air', then you would also insist that the National Air and Space Museum be shortened to 'Air Museum'. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 00:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Harryzilber","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z-Title_for_article_Mus\u00e9e_de_l'Air","replies":["c-The_Bushranger-2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z","c-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T13:56:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, no they wouldn't, because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:47, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z","author":"The Bushranger","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Bushranger-2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

If there's to be further discussion on the correctness of the proper name 'Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace' for this article (which it was changed to the same day it was created), please raise it at this point; if not I will initiate a move to the proper name. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 13:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-18T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Harryzilber","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T13:56:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T00:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Bushranger-2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T13:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please do not unilaterally move the article. Please use the Requested Move process if you believe the article should be moved. Thank you. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:47, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z","author":"The Bushranger","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Bushranger-2012-08-18T23:47:00.000Z-Harryzilber-2012-08-18T13:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Please delete the "ST Aerospace A-4SU Super Skyhawk (serial number 928) BuNo 147797.[3]" from the Rosette Hall section. Did someone actually read the caption of the picture used in reference ? That bird is displayed in Bordeaux, 500+km South-West.

90.84.144.217 (talk) 11:59, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z","author":"90.84.144.217","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-90.84.144.217-2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z-Edit_request_on_28_September_2012","replies":["c-Nimbus227-2012-09-28T15:43:00.000Z-90.84.144.217-2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z","c-Anomie-2012-09-28T16:31:00.000Z-90.84.144.217-2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Agreed, this is a panorama of the hall that it is supposed to be displayed in. A photo can not be used as a reference anyway. I'll see if I can get the article unprotected as I can't edit it either. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 15:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-09-28T15:43:00.000Z","author":"Nimbus227","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nimbus227-2012-09-28T15:43:00.000Z-90.84.144.217-2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nimbus"}}-->

Not done: {{edit protected}} is not required for edits to unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Subject to consensus, you should be able to make the edits yourself. Anomie⚔ 16:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-09-28T16:31:00.000Z","author":"Anomie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Anomie-2012-09-28T16:31:00.000Z-90.84.144.217-2012-09-28T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nimbus227-2012-09-28T16:44:00.000Z-Anomie-2012-09-28T16:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Page protection level has been lowered, entry removed as requested (the subject aircraft is in a different museum with a similar name). Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 16:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-09-28T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Nimbus227","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nimbus227-2012-09-28T16:44:00.000Z-Anomie-2012-09-28T16:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Nimbus"}}-->