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Those who think Missa in B minor (Bach) should not be a disambiguation page should probably discuss that here. --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-02T23:20:00.000Z","author":"Francis Schonken","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-02T23:20:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}-->

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Do we need this page? Who would refer Bach's complete Mass in B minor as Missa? He hinself didn't. He titled only the first of four books "No. 1 Missa" (pictured), for him (and many other Lutheran composers) a Missa was a setting of Kyrie and Gloria.
If we arrive at "we need this page" or "it's good for something", we don't need "(Bach)" in the article name, because there is only one Mass in B minor and only one Missa in B minor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-03T07:43:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2014-11-03T07:43:00.000Z-Questions","replies":["c-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2014-11-03T07:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I think we don't need
  - Missa in B minor (Bach)
  nor
  - Missa in B minor
BWV 232 is not (ever) called this way; the 1733 composition is not (ever) called that way either.

I provided this disambiguation page for the temporary situation where some wikilinks needed to be dabbed, which has been largely accomplished now (and already completely for main namespace links). I'd take the page to WP:AfD now, unless, and there probably is, there is a speedy deletion rationale that can be applied. Same for the incoming Missa in B minor redirect. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-03T08:13:00.000Z","author":"Francis Schonken","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2014-11-03T07:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2014-11-03T10:51:00.000Z-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-03T08:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fine with me. I don't know a speedy rationale. Perhaps "confusing rather than helpful"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-03T10:51:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2014-11-03T10:51:00.000Z-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-03T08:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Found another "Missa in B minor", so for the time being I withdraw my suggestion to delete the page, I've redirected to Missa in B minor, and will move this talk page to Talk:Missa in B minor --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-11-03T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Francis Schonken","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Francis_Schonken-2014-11-03T13:12:00.000Z-Questions","replies":[]}}-->