Talk:Hot Wheels

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"Introduced" date

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In the InfoBox, it has an "Introduced" date of "July 10, 1968."

I don't know what definition of "introduced" is being used, but Hot Wheels were on the market in time for Christmas of 1967 ! ! ! Many people I've talked with over the years remember seeing them before Thanksgiving 1967.

1968 was the first FULL YEAR OF PRODUCTION (which is what most references state), not the actual year of introduction.

As such, I think the "Introduced" date should be changed to read "Late 1967."

Of course, someone could do some additional research and possibly find a more specific date. 2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 13:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-23T13:23:00.000Z","author":"2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6-2017-05-23T13:23:00.000Z-\"Introduced\"_date","replies":[]}}-->

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Lack of model and packaging images

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Hi all, cimpared to similar articles, this one lacks images illustrating how the models and the packaging and logo varied along time. Is there any reason (e.g. legal) for this? Thanks, DPdH (talk) 21:16, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-25T21:16:00.000Z","author":"DPdH","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DPdH-2017-06-25T21:16:00.000Z-Lack_of_model_and_packaging_images","replies":[]}}-->

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Confusing

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What is really confusing are the lines that are 'attributed' to/under the "Hot Wheels" banner/logo. There are several lines that were sold here in the U.S. that did NOT carry the banner/logo; yet when manufactured/packaged for sale outside the U.S., DID carry the banner/logo.

And yet, there are lines like the "Micro Air Defenders" (1990) that one would NOT expect to see under the banner/logo but WERE released under the banner/logo.

Given this dichotomy, I think there should be some mention about the differences in packaging for the exact same items sold around the world.

Granted this may be more of a collector "thing," but the entry/article does have a "Collectors" section already.

As to whether this "differences in packaging" should be added to that section or have its own section, I leave up to you. 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-02T11:53:00.000Z","author":"2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D-2017-12-02T11:53:00.000Z-Confusing","replies":[]}}-->

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Why did you guys remove that picture? Itsmehbro (talk) 09:48, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-23T09:48:00.000Z","author":"Itsmehbro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Itsmehbro-2018-10-23T09:48:00.000Z-Who_removed_the_Camaro_picture?","replies":["c-Andy_Dingley-2018-10-23T10:16:00.000Z-Itsmehbro-2018-10-23T09:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

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I noticed that there were a number of Americanisms that wouldn't make any sense to international readers; perhaps they can figure out from context what a "tricked out" car is, but they shouldn't have to (and why would you call them "city or 'real life' cars"? "Real life" is the closest to actual English of the two terms, yet you put that in scare quotes?) Anyway, I tried to re-write as much of these sorts of issues as I found, and I italicized a bunch of the car titles, and series titles all through the article to improve the style (or so I believe). I also found that the years 1995-2016 were showing up as a hidden "notation", at least in visual editor, rather than showing as article text, so I pasted all those paragraphs back into the main body, which I hope is where they belong. I believe I added references to the couple small things I added, but if there is anything you disagree with about what I just did, I'd politely ask that you just change that thing that you have a problem with, rather than reverting the whole thing en masse, since I just spent probably over 3 hours doing all those changes. Thank you. Oh, and "The Snake and the Mongoose" are the nicknames of the race car DRIVERS, Prodhomme and McEvans. They painted this name on the sides of their cars, of course, but the nickname was the driver's, not the cars, until they got new cars, and the easiest way to demonstrate this to the audience is to write "Snake II" and "Mongoose II" on the new cars. But that doesn't make them "the drivers of the Snake and the Mongoose funny cars". They WERE the Snake and the Mongoose, whatever they were driving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.163.78 (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-26T08:33:00.000Z","author":"70.109.163.78","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-70.109.163.78-2018-11-26T08:33:00.000Z-My_edits","replies":[]}}-->

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We need to add things to verify what's mentioned here, but nobody has added anything. Let's try finding citations that support what is here, otherwise maybe we should edit this page to not include things without any citations? BBFanToys (talk) 15:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-01T15:16:00.000Z","author":"BBFanToys","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BBFanToys-2021-06-01T15:16:00.000Z-Box_at_top_of_Page","replies":[]}}-->

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Why no mention of Hot Wheels being inducted in 2011 into "the strong National Museum Of Play" ?

Info is here ---

https://www.toyhalloffame.org/toys/hot-wheels

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I'm sorry to say this, but...

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This page is a complete mess and needs to be completely rewritten from scratch.

Do we really need to know everything the company did on a year-by-year basis for the last decade and a half? Conversely, a 10 year period from 1989 - 1999 is covered in barely a single paragraph, despite a considerable lot occurring during that timeframe.

Furthermore...

  • There's nothing about the Malaysia plant opening in 1983, which enabled the company to produce its "Real Rider" rubber tyres.
  • Micro vehicle ranges, such as the 1989 - 1990 Formula Racers series, the 1995 Micro Vehicles series, and 2002 - 2005 Atomix series get zero mention, and neither do World's Smallest Hot Wheels for that matter.
  • There's absolutely no mention of the Handlers being ousted from Hot Wheels in 1974 due to their role in falsifying sales figures from a few years prior, which almost caused Mattel to go bankrupt and hurt them for most of the '70s.
  • No mention of the December 1969 fire at Mattel's Tijuana plant which destroyed a whole third of the Christmas inventory.
  • Nothing talking about Mattel's purchase of Mettoy in 1989, and its subsequent absorbing of Corgi Toys castings into the Hot Wheels line.
  • Nothing talking about Mattel's purchase of Mebetoys from 20 years prior, which helped to kickstart the brand in Italy.
  • Nothing talking about the company's early relationship with Monogram during Mattel's ownership of the latter.
  • Nothing talking about Mattel's relationship with Bandai in Japan, producing the CharaWheels range throughout the first half of the 2000s.
  • There's a brief mention of the company's four billionth car in 2008, but nothing talking about its 1 billionth in 1990.
  • Phil Riehlman and Mark Jones are mentioned precisely zero times, and are arguably two of the company's most influential designers after Larry Wood.
  • There's a brief reference to the dearly-departed Ryu Asada, but nothing talking about what he did for the company, and zero references to Jun Imai, who was head of design for 14 years with the pair helping to bring a lot of JDM vehicles to the brand.
  • The Bone Shaker is mentioned once in the entire article, despite having a life-size replica built and generally being known as one of the company's best-selling castings from long-time designer Larry Wood.
  • There's a reference to Mukys, an off-brand illicit reproduction of early Hot Wheels castings, but nothing talking about the Indian LEO plant, which produced its own Hot Wheels castings for over 15 years, nor the CIPSA and Aurimat-produced cars over in Mexico.
  • There's a one-worded reference to McDonald's as though the two companies barely interacted with each other, despite McDonald's playing a key role for sales of Hot Wheels cars from 1983 through to the end of diecast toys being sold in 2007 as a result of the Cars lead paint scandal, with plenty of unique McDonald's-exclusive castings being issued.

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can I copy and paste your hot wheel article into code.org. plz 204.29.66.34 (talk) 15:44, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230206154400","author":"204.29.66.34","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-204.29.66.34-20230206154400-copy_and_paste","replies":[]}}-->

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This should probably be added to this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld6qrjYwi_4 2607:FEA8:95E0:1700:91B9:46B:DC92:A97C (talk) 06:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230224062700","author":"2607:FEA8:95E0:1700:91B9:46B:DC92:A97C","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2607:FEA8:95E0:1700:91B9:46B:DC92:A97C-20230224062700-Hot_wheels_computer","replies":[]}}-->


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there seems to be an new TV show/competition based on hot wheels. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27047709/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexfordummys (talkcontribs) 12:06, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230629120600","author":"Sexfordummys","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sexfordummys-20230629120600-TV_show","replies":[]}}-->

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I added a couple more photos to it, I also agree that it should be rewritten. Over5help550 (talk) 17:26, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230726172600","author":"Over5help550","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Over5help550-20230726172600-Added_Photos+","replies":[]}}-->

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this article needs to be rewritten and actualized it has very little information of 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 and 2023 W!kipedista (talk) 20:42, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231031204200","author":"W!kipedista","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-W!kipedista-20231031204200-needs_to_be_rewritten","replies":[]}}-->

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The video games section appears to be missing the title Forza Motorsport 7 (2017), for which a Hot Wheels DLC car pack was released and a Hot Wheels-themed racing suit was given to players. I think the article would benefit from mentioning it in the same way a similar car pack for Forza Horizon 4 is mentioned. I feel that the detail in the Forza Horizon 5 listing could be scaled back to match the descriptions of the other games mentioned in the list, or at least the other Forza titles. I don't see how extensively describing the setting used in a video game, apart from the presence of orange Hot Wheels track or real-life pieces and inspirations for the game world, would benefit somebody interested in Hot Wheels history. CardinalWiki (talk) 08:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715084100","author":"CardinalWiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CardinalWiki-20240715084100-Missing_Video_Game_Title","replies":["c-CardinalWiki-20240715085200-CardinalWiki-20240715084100"]}}-->

Instead of naming the specific regions included in the Forza Horizon 5 Hot Wheels downloadable expansion, I would mention how this is the first Forza game, Horizon or otherwise, to include Hot Wheels cars in its campaign mode. A monster truck version of the Bone Shaker features in two events, and the player must beat an A.I. player by using a Ford Focus and a Ford Bronco to successfully complete them. CardinalWiki (talk) 08:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240715085200","author":"CardinalWiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CardinalWiki-20240715085200-CardinalWiki-20240715084100","replies":[]}}-->

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