Talk:Henry Petre

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that as well as being Australia's first military pilot, Henry Petre (pictured) led the Australian Flying Corps' first unit on active service and earned the DSO, MC and four Mentions in Despatches?
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Henry Aloysius P. had 6 siblings, 4 brothers and 2 sisters. Of the four brothers, two (Edward and John) died flying: Edward died on a flight from Brooklands to Edinburgh on 24 Dec. 1912, aged 26; John Joseph Petre DSC was "killed on active service" on 13 April 1917 (2 days after his 23rd birthday) as Acting Squadron Commander RNAS. I interpret this to mean that he had a fatal accident unrelated to combat, otherwise he would have been "killed in action". Some sources do indeed mention KIA but most say "killed on active service". --TraceyR (talk) 00:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T00:20:00.000Z","author":"TraceyR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:20:00.000Z-Brothers","replies":["c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:31:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Accident death confirmed: Flight 3 May 1917 contains the following: "A Requiem Mass for Squadron Commander JOHN PETRE, D.S.C., youngest son of Mr. Sebastian H. Petre, who lost his life in a flying accident abroad, took place at Ingatestone Hall on the 27th April. The congregation included officers of a bombing school and officers and men of the R.N.A.S. By a coincidence the service took place on the birthday of an elder brother, Edward Petre, a pioneer of aviation who lost his life in England five years ago. It is hoped to bring Commander Petre's body home after the war." This appears not to have happened, since his name is listed at the Commonwealth Graves Cemetery at Cerisy Gailly, Somme. --TraceyR (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T00:31:00.000Z","author":"TraceyR","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:31:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T05:26:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi Tracey, I thought I recognised the name -- we talked around Lebaudy Patrie, didn't we? Thanks for digging this stuff out -- you don't happen to have handy the Flight link from 3 May 1917 do you? I'd be happy to work it into the article in the appropriate spot... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T05:26:00.000Z","author":"Ian Rose","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T05:26:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T00:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T11:14:00.000Z-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T05:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
Here's the Flight link: http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1917/1917%20-%200421.PDF. The military cemetery entry (it is not be run by the Commonwealth Graves Commission after all) for John Petre reads

"PETRE JOHN JOSEPH United Kingdom Squadron Commander Royal Naval Air Service13/04/1917 Age: 23 I. D. 39."

Yes, we did co-operate on the Patrie. It's very quiet there now, largely because I could find no more information online. I think it's a good article (perhaps not by GA criteria) and I enjoyed working on it. --TraceyR (talk) 11:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T11:14:00.000Z","author":"TraceyR","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T11:14:00.000Z-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T05:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T12:14:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T11:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
Great, Tracey -- I just used the Flight info as the cemetery site doesn't appear to be in the same class reliability wise. Thanks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Ian Rose","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T12:14:00.000Z-TraceyR-2011-02-06T11:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T14:35:00.000Z-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T12:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
Looking at the dates, since Henry arrived in Australia to take up his appointment in January 1913, he must have been at sea in December 1912 when his Edward crashed.--TraceyR (talk) 14:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T14:35:00.000Z","author":"TraceyR","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-TraceyR-2011-02-06T14:35:00.000Z-Ian_Rose-2011-02-06T12:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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