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Picture

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Picture is nothing special. Could we have one where her face is visible more ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.228.73.11 (talk) 16:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-23T16:34:00.000Z","author":"205.228.73.11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-205.228.73.11-2008-01-23T16:34:00.000Z-Picture","replies":[]}}-->

I think the older picture of Ana was better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratazana (talk • contribs) 02:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-24T02:53:00.000Z","author":"Ratazana","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ratazana-2008-03-24T02:53:00.000Z-Picture","replies":[]}}-->

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Updating

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Her prize money just went up after the Australian Open, i'd change it but i don't know if someone else already periodically adjusts these things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waht (talk • contribs) 13:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-28T13:13:00.000Z","author":"Waht","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Waht-2008-01-28T13:13:00.000Z-Updating","replies":[]}}-->

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Re: Picture

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The older picture gives the reader a poor means of identification. Somebody has already raised this concern. Pictures further down the page can show her playing tennis if that's perceived as beneficial; the top photo should help the audience in identifying the player. She's hardly an obscure player, I know, but not everyone who comes to this page will be familiar with her. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-01T01:32:00.000Z","author":"Yohan euan o4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yohan_euan_o4-2008-04-01T01:32:00.000Z-Re:_Picture","replies":[]}}-->

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Discussion concerning this article

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A discussion that may affect the name or title of this article is ongoing here. Please voice any opinions or concerns on that page. After the discussion concludes, this article may be moved to a different title, in accordance with Wikipedia's Naming Conventions. Thank you, Redux (talk) 05:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-11T05:53:00.000Z","author":"Redux","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Redux-2008-05-11T05:53:00.000Z-Discussion_concerning_this_article","replies":[]}}-->

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first Serbian player?

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Though the press are reporting that Ivanović is the first Serbian number one and woman grand slam winner, I would argue that Monica Seles is actually the first Serbian to do these. - Phildav76 (talk) 07:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T07:31:00.000Z","author":"Phildav76","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phildav76-2008-06-08T07:31:00.000Z-first_Serbian_player?","replies":["c-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z-Phildav76-2008-06-08T07:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree, given that Seles represented Serbia, and was Serbian. She only later played under U.S. Hxseek (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z","author":"Hxseek","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z-Phildav76-2008-06-08T07:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-JFMorse-2008-06-08T09:51:00.000Z-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z","c-GregorB-2008-06-10T23:35:00.000Z-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Even worse, the lead-in states that she's the second Serbian woman to be ranked #1 (after Seles), but that she's the first Serbian woman to win a grand slam title (which I'm sure would come as a surprise TO Seles). The question of Seles' nationality for this purpose needs to be resolved, but for now I'm changing that statement so it's not a self-evident contradiction. JFMorse (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T09:51:00.000Z","author":"JFMorse","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JFMorse-2008-06-08T09:51:00.000Z-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z-JFMorse-2008-06-08T09:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's odd... If Monica Seles is a Serbian, then how come her last name doesn't end in "ić"? Chimchar monferno (talk) 14:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z","author":"Chimchar monferno","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z-JFMorse-2008-06-08T09:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Phildav76-2008-06-08T22:58:00.000Z-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z","c-Vanjagenije-2008-06-10T13:33:00.000Z-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

Monica Seles is Serbian as in she's from Serbia, but she is not ethnically a Serb, but rather a Hungarian. And not all Serb names end in "ić" such as Nikola Tesla and Vojislav Koštunica - Phildav76 (talk) 22:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T22:58:00.000Z","author":"Phildav76","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Phildav76-2008-06-08T22:58:00.000Z-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am Serb, and my last name is not ended with "ić". Vanjagenije (talk) 13:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T13:33:00.000Z","author":"Vanjagenije","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Vanjagenije-2008-06-10T13:33:00.000Z-Chimchar_monferno-2008-06-08T14:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Seles never represented Serbia. Still, she should be in Category:Serbian tennis players, but she isn't. At least it's consistently wrong: if Tesla is a "Serbian inventor", then Seles can't be a Serbian tennis player. Of course, Tesla is a Serb inventor, not a Serbian inventor. Basis for categorization is nationality, not ethnicity. GregorB (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T23:35:00.000Z","author":"GregorB","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GregorB-2008-06-10T23:35:00.000Z-Hxseek-2008-06-08T08:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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New Rankings

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I notice that my removal of Jelena Jankovic as next number one WTA player was reverted. I know that as the results stand Jankovic would be number one. Even WTA website says that she'd be number one on Aug 11, but the rankings page still shows Ana as number one. What my point is, we should not take this upon ourselves to declare future ranking. It doesn't matter what was done in earlier cases, but at least the fact that you are writing a post-dated ranking should stroke your common sense. LeaveSleaves (talk) 02:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T02:03:00.000Z","author":"LeaveSleaves","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LeaveSleaves-2008-08-03T02:03:00.000Z-New_Rankings","replies":[]}}-->

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Request for wider input on discussion at Wikiproject tennis

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Hi, there is an extremely long and muddled discussion going on at WP:Tennis about the tournament tables found on tennis player articles (i.e. this type of table). The dispute is over the "Tournament Name" column, with the options being to either use the "sponsored tournament name" - in other words, the name involving the sponsor, for example Internazionali BNL d'Italia - or the "non-sponsored tournament name" - in other words, Rome Masters. I appreciate that this conversation is very long and convoluted, so a brief summary can be found here, which is also where I request the discussion continues. Thanks, rst20xx (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-03T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Rst20xx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rst20xx-2008-09-03T22:01:00.000Z-Request_for_wider_input_on_discussion_at_Wikiproject_tennis","replies":[]}}-->

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Poor quality of many articles

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See here for discussion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclover565 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-05T17:40:00.000Z","author":"Musiclover565","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Musiclover565-2008-10-05T17:40:00.000Z-Poor_quality_of_many_articles","replies":[]}}-->

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Place of birth

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The article says: "Place of birth: Belgrade, Serbia, then SFR Yugoslavia"
Yugoslavia existed since 1929, and Serbia was a part of it. In 1991-1992, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, and Bosnia declared independence. The remaining republics of Serbia and Montenegro declared a new Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) in April of 1992. In 2006 Montenegro declared itself an independent nation. Since Ana Ivanovic was born in 1987, she was born in country of Yugoslavia, republic of Serbia, city of Belgrade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.143.204.102 (talk) 15:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-11T15:55:00.000Z","author":"205.143.204.102","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-205.143.204.102-2008-11-11T15:55:00.000Z-Place_of_birth","replies":[]}}-->