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Took out the "unreferenced" stub here. It should go on the main page. -RomeW

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Mention what is so bad

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So say what is so bad about sleeping 18:00-03:00? One will miss the prime time TV ads? At least Circadian rhythm sleep disorder admits it has to do with 'society's view' of what is normal. Jidanni (talk) 21:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-11T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Jidanni","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jidanni-2008-12-11T21:17:00.000Z-Mention_what_is_so_bad","replies":[]}}-->

I agree. I don't see why this is called a "disorder". I'd just call it a "condition". Can be good or bad, depending on the circumstances. For me personally I imagine this would be a great improvement in life quality, because I need lots of coffee and many hours of "being awake" before actually being awake. And for example for a baker or someone who has to get up very early to get to work this is not bad. And maybe if we were still "hunter-gatherers" it could actually be an evolutionary advantage. I can imagine that it was quite normal to get to sleep with sunset some hundred years ago when they had no tv, no internet, no discos and no electric light. Modern society might be seen as a disorder from a different point of view. 130.234.201.68 (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-23T11:25:00.000Z","author":"130.234.201.68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-130.234.201.68-2009-09-23T11:25:00.000Z-Mention_what_is_so_bad","replies":[]}}-->

While I can imagine you thinking it isn't a disorder because there are some benefits, in reality it is at best inconvenient with slight upsides, and at worse devastating. Can you imagine what it would be like to have jet lag every day of your life. (Clue: it isn't much fun) I have suffered from APSD for just over 9 years and the effects are no fun whatsoever. The only slight advantage I found was that when I was a freelancer I could get up and work for almost a full day before my clients were awake and pestering me with questions. When I awake I am AWAKE. Yes, that is awesome in that you don't have to have drink coffee (I do anyway) but really, did you think this through when you didn't see this as a problem? Okay YOU are awake at this time but no one else is. Can you think what the problem might be? Clue: think of the other end of the day. Yes, if you are like m, extremely sociable with a lot of friends, the issue becomes not what happens first thing in the morning but what happens at 6pm when you are desperately trying to stay awake and your friends are planning to meet for drinks and dinner in THREE HOURS TIME! Yeah, start to see what the problem might be yet? Also my advanced phase is only 5 hours so I generally sleep from 7:00pm till 2:30am. Bear in mind that some people have a 12 hour advance in the sleep cycle. And they have families, which I don't. Imagine you go to sleep at 5pm every day as your kids get home from school and you wake up at midnight and go off to work (because your only choice with that kind of APSD is night work.) You never see your kids. Lights, drugs, behavioural therapy, sleep clinics, doctors, a sleep psychologist, acupuncture, even a naturopath have failed to cure mine. So before assuming there is nothing so bad about it, think of some of the other sides. Andrew Riddles (talk) 11:58, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-13T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Ariddles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ariddles-2012-10-13T11:58:00.000Z-Mention_what_is_so_bad","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew Riddles"}}-->