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Happy editing! Cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221026163900","author":"Fettlemap","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fettlemap-20221026163900-Welcome!","replies":[]}}-->

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

A lot of advertising verbiage about quality and other promotional tones is still in the article. Needs to be rewritten neutrally by someone not associated with the company. Whole sections of the article remain unreferenced and seem to point to website's Our History sections rather than independent coverage by external news sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Springbar and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:19, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230117181900","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-20230117181900-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Springbar_(January_17)","replies":[],"displayName":"AngusW\ud83d\udc36\ud83d\udc36F"}}-->

Hello, Xlea Nollmav! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:19, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230117181900","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-20230117181900-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Springbar_(January_17)-1","replies":[],"displayName":"AngusW\ud83d\udc36\ud83d\udc36F"}}-->

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

The submission is still exceptionally promotional. There is a reason WP:COI editing is strongly discouraged.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Springbar and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Greenman (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230222222000","author":"Greenman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Greenman-20230222222000-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Springbar_(February_22)","replies":[]}}-->

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Even with everything referenced and promotional tone fixed, the company does not meet WP:NCORP. References in the draft fail WP:ORGCRIT and a quick search online found nothing better.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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CNMall41 (talk) 19:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230412195800","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CNMall41-20230412195800-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Springbar_(April_12)","replies":[]}}-->

Are you an employee of the company or are they your client? Not important as you have declared your paid status but just curious. Also, you do need to hit that Resubmit button for it to be considered. If the draft is accepted you or anyone affiliated with company should not edit it directly but rather make WP:edit requests (there is a handy WP:Edit Request wizard). S0091 (talk) 18:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230428185300","author":"S0091","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-S0091-20230428185300-Question...","replies":["c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230428185500-S0091-20230428185300"]}}-->

@S0091Springbar is a client. And, yes, resubmitting would be good! Thanks for the insight! Xlea Nollmav (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230428185500","author":"Xlea Nollmav","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230428185500-S0091-20230428185300","replies":[]}}-->

Springbar, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

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At several Wikipedia pages you have recently added links to Springbar. This not the only brand of spring-loaded tent, so singling out this particular brand is effectively advertising. Since you have noted that you have a conflict of interest in this area, I would suggest that you refrain from adding such links directly. If you think that such a link should be in a tent-related article, please put a request to add that link on the talk page of the article, and then let someone without a conflict of interest consider the addition. Murray Langton (talk) 07:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230808070500","author":"Murray Langton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Murray_Langton-20230808070500-Inappropriate_links","replies":["c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808132300-Murray_Langton-20230808070500","c-Murray_Langton-20230809045600-Murray_Langton-20230808070500"]}}-->

@Murray Langton thank you for the feedback! I wasn't sure how to go about dealing with the "orphan" link issue. Clearly that is not the way, so thanks again. Should I go in and remove the links I added? Xlea Nollmav (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230808132300","author":"Xlea Nollmav","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808132300-Murray_Langton-20230808070500","replies":["c-Murray_Langton-20230808155900-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808132300"]}}-->

If you look, you will see that I have already removed three such links. Murray Langton (talk) 15:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230808155900","author":"Murray Langton","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Murray_Langton-20230808155900-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808132300","replies":["c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808170500-Murray_Langton-20230808155900"]}}-->

Appreciate it, @Murray Langton! Xlea Nollmav (talk) 17:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230808170500","author":"Xlea Nollmav","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230808170500-Murray_Langton-20230808155900","replies":[]}}-->

I am not sure how to advise you re 'orphan' links. In my opinion, the Springbar article itself is rather close to being an advertisement. One possibility is to search for references to such tents which are independent of the company (i.e. no press releases) and see how such references can be incorporated in the article or related articles. Another possibility is to consider whether you can add links to Springbar in the 'See also' section of some tent or camping articles, or preferably suggest the addition of such links on a related talk page. Your basic problem is that Wikipedia discourages advertising, which is what you are being paid to do, so you need to be cautious. Murray Langton (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230809045600","author":"Murray Langton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Murray_Langton-20230809045600-Murray_Langton-20230808070500","replies":["c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230810210800-Murray_Langton-20230809045600"]}}-->

@Murray Langton Thank you for your insight. I will look into all of that. How big of a deal is the orphan link thing — or is it? Xlea Nollmav (talk) 21:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230810210800","author":"Xlea Nollmav","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230810210800-Murray_Langton-20230809045600","replies":["c-Murray_Langton-20230811052900-Xlea_Nollmav-20230810210800"]}}-->

'orphan link' means that no other Wikipedia pages link to this one, which in turn means that very few readers will ever find the page, which rather defeats the purpose of having the page in the first place! Murray Langton (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230811052900","author":"Murray Langton","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Murray_Langton-20230811052900-Xlea_Nollmav-20230810210800","replies":["c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230815032000-Murray_Langton-20230811052900"]}}-->

Thank you for the insight, @Murray Langton Xlea Nollmav (talk) 03:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230815032000","author":"Xlea Nollmav","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Xlea_Nollmav-20230815032000-Murray_Langton-20230811052900","replies":[]}}-->