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Hi Abhay Tiwari subh.vokk (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230517202000","author":"Abhay Tiwari subh.vokk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abhay_Tiwari_subh.vokk-20230517202000-Some_baklava_for_you!","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20230722100800-Abhay_Tiwari_subh.vokk-20230517202000"]}}-->

Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230722100800","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20230722100800-Abhay_Tiwari_subh.vokk-20230517202000","replies":[]}}-->

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Could you come to the Barbie (film) article and look into the #Nine-dash line controversy section? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 08:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230722082700","author":"JSH-alive","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSH-alive-20230722082700-The_Barbie_Real_World_map_controversy","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20230722101200-JSH-alive-20230722082700"]}}-->

It looked OK to me. do you have a specific concern? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230722101200","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20230722101200-JSH-alive-20230722082700","replies":["c-JSH-alive-20230722104800-Wtmitchell-20230722101200"]}}-->

I honestly don't know. I just wanted you to check if there's any bias or error in phrasing, quotation, etc.. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 10:48, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230722104800","author":"JSH-alive","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JSH-alive-20230722104800-Wtmitchell-20230722101200","replies":[]}}-->

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Enjoy Denisarona (talk) 08:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230810084000","author":"Denisarona","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Denisarona-20230810084000-A_beer_for_you!","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20230810093700-Denisarona-20230810084000"]}}-->

A bit early in my day -- I just finished breakfast. I'll enjoy it later. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230810093700","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20230810093700-Denisarona-20230810084000","replies":[]}}-->

Would this work [5]? Vacosea (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230829184800","author":"Vacosea","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vacosea-20230829184800-Date_sensitive_information","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20230830111600-Vacosea-20230829184800"]}}-->

Looks good to me. An editor with source-supported updated info could notice this and update it easily, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:16, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230830111600","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20230830111600-Vacosea-20230829184800","replies":[]}}-->

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The redirect Full Metal Jacket should redirect to the disambiguation page. Existing links in articles needs to be changed. Blockhaj (talk) 12:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231230120900","author":"Blockhaj","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blockhaj-20231230120900-Full_Metal_Jacket_links_need_to_be_changed_to_feature_(film)","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20231230124400-Blockhaj-20231230120900"]}}-->

I don't understand why we are going back and forth about this, but here's what appears to have happened; see here:

1. You created a new redirect named Full Metal Jacket redirecting to the Full Metal Jacket (movie) article
2. You then changed the redirect target to Full metal jacket [6]
3. I reverted that [7]
4. You unreverted back to the error [8]
5. I un-unreverted [9]

Wikilink references in various WP articles are a separate issue. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231230124400","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20231230124400-Blockhaj-20231230120900","replies":["c-Blockhaj-20231230133000-Wtmitchell-20231230124400"]}}-->

What error? I moved the article "Full Metal Jacket" to "Full Metal Jacket (movie)" so that page name can be redirected to the disambiguation page full metal jacket, which covers both spellings. Previously the movie article sat at "Full Metal Jacket" with "full metal jacket" redirecting to it. That is erronous since the name can refer to several things, especially the ammunition from which the movie got its name. Blockhaj (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231230133000","author":"Blockhaj","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Blockhaj-20231230133000-Wtmitchell-20231230124400","replies":["c-Bkonrad-20231230154800-Blockhaj-20231230133000"]}}-->

Blockhaj, besides the above, the move was undiscussed. You broke many many links with the move. Please establish consensus with a requested move discussion. older ≠ wiser 15:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231230154800","author":"Bkonrad","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Bkonrad-20231230154800-Blockhaj-20231230133000","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20231230234300-Bkonrad-20231230154800"],"displayName":"older"}}-->

I agree that this needs to be worked out by editorial consensus. I took a quick look at how the articles are currently disambiguated and it looks OK to me except that I would add

For other uses of the term full metal jacket in various capitalizations, see Full metal jacket (disambiguation).

to the Full Metal Jacket Diary article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231230234300","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20231230234300-Bkonrad-20231230154800","replies":[]}}-->

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Checked. I just ref-ized a source citation already present, assuming good faith. It may or may not be verifiable, but I am not able to check that. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240305224400","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240305224400-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20240121064000","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I'm Hannahlouise5678 (talk) 11:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC). In the article - The Spanish-American War, you marked a citation as FV in the section - 'aftermath in acquired territories.' I've just double-checked the reference and quote, and it is referenced correctly.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125115600","author":"Hannahlouise5678","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hannahlouise5678-20240125115600-Spanish-American_War","replies":[]}}-->

Also, in your comment you mentioned POV OR, would you be able to comment further on which aspects of the edit that refers to, I would like to alter the section if it doesn't have neutrality. Thank you! Hannahlouise5678 (talk) 11:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125115600","author":"Hannahlouise5678","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hannahlouise5678-20240125115600-Spanish-American_War-1","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240125130800-Hannahlouise5678-20240125115600"]}}-->

Hi. Thanks for pointing that out. Placing the fv tag was a clear error on my part; I've removed it. I had checked the source and I don't know how I missed seeing that the snippet quoted is in there. That quote states a 2008 characterization by the author of the source cited, Sam Erman. I don't recognize that name, but I'm not an academic. In any case, I don't know if his characterization is reliable enough to support framing it as fact that those words marked the legislation mentioned. That sort of thing is common in WP, but it seems POVish and ORish to me. I didn't do any research on this, but I suspect that there might be other published sources of comparable reliability and significance but with with differing viewpoints. Perhaps a bit of research is in order in the interests of WP:DUE. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 13:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125130800","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240125130800-Hannahlouise5678-20240125115600","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi Wtmichell, see if you agree with my edit here. I believe your wording here was clear and corresponds to the intent of the statement. It was changed here, now it makes no sense as legality is a state of. Wjereas laws make provision for penalties, the legality of an act can at most make references to such attendant penalties. [FWIIW, the account that made the change is blocked for disruptive editing] Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 10:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416101000","author":"Rui Gabriel Correia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-20240416101000-Rewording_that_fails_logic","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240416112600-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-20240416101000"],"displayName":"Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia"}}-->

I have no problem with that. Thanks for asking. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416112600","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240416112600-Rui_Gabriel_Correia-20240416101000","replies":[]}}-->

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As you can see in my edits, the "clarifying quotation" was retained in both cites as seen here The sovereignty of a State is co-extensive with its territorial limits — and here (quotation retained). What you did was introduce a citation error back into the article seen here (that I had fixed}, and duplicated the same ref again as seen here - ref 19 and here - ref 108 (that I had fixed} (with the same quotation you claimed I removed). In the future, please be more careful when reverting valid edits. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 23:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240511231100","author":"Isaidnoway","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Isaidnoway-20240511231100-List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation","replies":[]}}-->

I walked thru the versions.

• This one had a maint/error reading harvnb error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFBautista2009.
• In this one, you cleaned that up by re-using another cite.

I: clearly missed seeing that the quote at issue was present in the re-used cite. My error. However, on taking this fresh look at this, I question the appropriateness of that quotation in a citation asserting (in the other ref to that cite) that the date of the latest territorial change of the Philippines was 2012. Offhand, I think not -- but that is an entirely separate issue. I may bring that up separately on the article talk page. Thank you for your cleanup work, and I apologize for havig gotten in the way of that with a ham-handed edit. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240512020600","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240512020600-List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation","replies":[]}}-->

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I think i have sorted the First Philippine Republic formatting issue now, by moving the notelist out of the List of cabinets of the Philippines article. Can you see if it affects any other related articles? Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240616014400","author":"Matilda Maniac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Matilda_Maniac-20240616014400-First_Philippine_Republic","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240616020300-Matilda_Maniac-20240616014400"]}}-->

I don't think any other articles are involved. I introduced all this complication long ago in an attempt to avoid having two separately-maintained tables that could bbe counted on to get out of sync. It's been a headache ever since. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240616020300","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240616020300-Matilda_Maniac-20240616014400","replies":["c-Matilda_Maniac-20240616055800-Wtmitchell-20240616020300"]}}-->

there are different ways to transclude sections, and they appear all the time on soccer tournament articles to maintain information to be in sync. Transclusion is my friend ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240616055800","author":"Matilda Maniac","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Matilda_Maniac-20240616055800-Wtmitchell-20240616020300","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, did you intend List of cabinets of the Philippines sandbox to be created in main space? Wikishovel (talk) 04:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240616045600","author":"Wikishovel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wikishovel-20240616045600-List_of_cabinets_of_the_Philippines_sandbox","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240616085100-Wikishovel-20240616045600"]}}-->

no. my error. I'll remove it. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240616085100","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240616085100-Wikishovel-20240616045600","replies":[]}}-->

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Re: the text "granted independence on July 4, 1946 by the Treaty of Manila", MOS:YEAR shows that for mdy-formatted dates like involved here, "A comma follows the year unless other punctuation obviates it." AWB typos correct this accordingly, and anyone using AWB to fix typos will come across this and fix it again. To be clear, I'm not blaming AWB - I'm saying AWB is correct per guidelines and I take responsibility for the correct typo fix I made with it. This is not a big deal for the time-being, but I hope you will revert the revert. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 16:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719160700","author":"StefenTower","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-StefenTower-20240719160700-Territories_of_the_United_States","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240719235700-StefenTower-20240719160700"],"displayName":"Stefen Towers among the rest!"}}-->

Done. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719235700","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240719235700-StefenTower-20240719160700","replies":[]}}-->

Hey! I noticed that you've been active in editing some Philippine history related articles. I'm currently trying to gauge interest in reviving the old PH history taskforce and would like to invite you if you're interested. What do you think? Cheers NyanThousand (talk) 08:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727083100","author":"NyanThousand","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NyanThousand-20240727083100-Reviving_the_PH_history_taskforce","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240727091400-NyanThousand-20240727083100"]}}-->

Hi. That is a major topical interest area for me, with focus on the 1896-1946 time period. I'm not currently interested in the mechanics of administrating or managing a task force, but please keep me in the loop. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727091400","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240727091400-NyanThousand-20240727083100","replies":[]}}-->

Just noted your recent clean up of Paracel Islands references into Havard style. Are you using the Havardb template rather than the more concise sfnp template (which I have never used myself but does same thing) because article style started using ref entities ? Just asking as someone more interest in geology than history and I know how to use sfn and efn correctly in a new article which most do not, and do not want to use sfn template shorthand wrongly. ChaseKiwi (talk) 19:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240803195100","author":"ChaseKiwi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChaseKiwi-20240803195100-reference_style","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240804002800-ChaseKiwi-20240803195100","c-Wtmitchell-20240804021600-ChaseKiwi-20240803195100"]}}-->

To answer your question directly -- yes; harv style shortened footnotes predate rp and sfnp in this article

WP generally tries to make life easy for users who use it as a resource. As a WP editor, I try to keep that in mind. Inconsistency in citation styles within an article introduces needless difficulties for users. I should probably have replaced the {{sfnp}}s with {{sfn}}s using the optional p= parameter, but I'm comfortable with {{harvnb}} and used that by habit. See here -- please do take a look at it.

Without trying to describe how it came to be this way, I'll note that inline parenthetical referencing was used early on in WP and became deprecated in favor of shortened footnotes. However. the {{rp}} template, which presents pageno information for a footnoted cite inline rather than in the footnote, survived that deprecation. At some point, {{sfn}} appeared. To an editor, sfn looks like harvnb except that it doesn't need to be wrapped in a Ref. Some time later, {{sfnp}} appeared, uses the inline style of rp to present the pageno info.Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804002800","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240804002800-ChaseKiwi-20240803195100","replies":[]}}-->

As is apparent from my strikeouts above, I misunderstood sfnp -- I thought that I had looked at how one instance was rendered and seen the pageno inline in rp style. Apparently, my deconstructing the snmps into Ref'd harvnbs was not needed. I don't think it's a problem as it is now, so I won't change it back. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804021600","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240804021600-ChaseKiwi-20240803195100","replies":["c-ChaseKiwi-20240804035200-Wtmitchell-20240804021600"]}}-->

Ok, although I believe snf and snfp substute the call to harvnb for quicker load times. ChaseKiwi (talk) 03:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804035200","author":"ChaseKiwi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ChaseKiwi-20240804035200-Wtmitchell-20240804021600","replies":["c-ChaseKiwi-20240806010500-ChaseKiwi-20240804035200"]}}-->

Hope you get to read Tonnesson which I have tried to send you ChaseKiwi (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240806010500","author":"ChaseKiwi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ChaseKiwi-20240806010500-ChaseKiwi-20240804035200","replies":[]}}-->

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I have now investigated as far as possible for me lack of doi that you discovered at Territorial disputes in the South China Sea at Agusman article. The paper in the journal website is definite and the author seems to be a lawyer high up in Indonesian Foreign Ministry as well as holding academic posts so its not really an uncontaminated secondary source but could have been written and published with an eye of getting Indonesia's evolving position in print. I found an apparent pre-print of the article as well as the accepted version with minor content changes. I have also identified at least one other recent paper in journal where doi reported and not assigned example. Not sure how long is reasonable to wait for doi to be registered so not sure if best to remove the doi and add access-date to the url instead. ChaseKiwi (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816074300","author":"ChaseKiwi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChaseKiwi-20240816074300-Verification_doi","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240817002200-ChaseKiwi-20240816074300"]}}-->

Hi, and thanks for your work there. I am not an academic, and I have other personal circumstances that generally limit me to online access. It is not uncommon for me to be unable to access cited sources via doi links -- I don't know why, but I sometime3s add a url link to such cites if I am able to access a copy by online searching, as I did here. In this particular case, I know nothing about the potential intrest conflict indications you describe and have no competence to pursue that. All that aside, the doi link in the article ([10]), for me, navigates to a not-found notice on doi.org. I was able to locate an online-accessible copy of the article by searching, however, so I added a url link to that to the cite. I am also not legally trained, and my understanding of the legal technicalities here are those of an interested layman -- interested because I am a longtime resident of the Philippines. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240817002200","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240817002200-ChaseKiwi-20240816074300","replies":[]}}-->

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Just checking to see if you recall this edit [11] because it kind of appears that there may have been some unintentional changes. It looks like you edited an earlier version of the article than the current one. Dawnseeker2000 19:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911191800","author":"Dawnseeker2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dawnseeker2000-20240911191800-Battle_of_Manila_Bay","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20240912001400-Dawnseeker2000-20240911191800"]}}-->

I vaguely recall that edit but not the details that led to it. Thanks for calling it to my attention -- I'll try to take another look at it later today. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912001400","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240912001400-Dawnseeker2000-20240911191800","replies":[]}}-->

continuing ... The edit summary of my 06:54, September 1 ecit was confusing and incomplete. I was probably innterrupted in mid-edit and rushed it out. I should not have done that -- my error. The edit inserted a sentence saying, "Dewey cabled Washington that he controlled the bay but would need 5,000 additional men to seize the city.", and that should have been done in a separate edit with a separate summary. The reason I inserted that sentence is a bit complicated and I'll try too explain it briefly here, but first I'll note that it is in the Subsequent action section, and that section is full of unsupported assertions somewhat related to this addition in that they do indicate that maintaining the blockade wasn't dead simple for Dewey. It's beyond this article's scope, but it is covered in other articles that the land forces would not begin arriving until the end of June. Dewey needed to do something to keep the Spanish forces here from focusing on him while he maintained the blockade during that period. What he did was to return Emilio Aguinaldo from exile in Hong Kong This is in scope for the Philippine Revolution article; that says: "Dewey cabled Washington, stating that although he controlled Manila Bay, he needed 5,000 additional men to seize Manila itself. The fleet remained in Manila Bay while reinforcements were sent from the United States.[89][90]" and goes on to describe Dewey bringing Aguinaldo to Manila. Some messy details related to this are in Hong Kong Junta § American involvement in the Philippines. Other articles also contain info about all of this and they all generally mention and wikilink this article, yet this article contains nothing about it. Supported mention of some of this should probably be added to the Subsequent action section, and those expected land forces are probably the only reason that Dewey needsd to hang around to maintain the blockade. There are probably sources that give details about this, but I haven't seen them (I'm limited to what I can find on the internet). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912052600","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20240912052600-Battle_of_Manila_Bay","replies":[]}}-->

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Accepting and following up from your comments about Hanni (singer) and observing a widespread problem in music artist pages and news sources with a multi-national background, I have written a section under Wikipedia:Nationalist editing regarding my understanding of WP:BLP, in particular, about making presumptions about citizenship and ethnicity in biographies. It deserves to be reviewed and refined by those with a long-term interest in Wikipedia policy, in particular someone who understands the legal complexities of citizenship. Travelmite (talk) 07:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241029075300","author":"Travelmite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Travelmite-20241029075300-Hanni_Pham_nationality","replies":[]}}-->

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With all due respect to the revert of Natural-born-citizen clause (United States). How do we know that the mentioned December immediately followed the previously mentioned November date, and didn't happen one year later? What if someone took the December sentence and cited it in another article in Wikipedia or elsewhere? Without the year, it could be confusing or, worse yet, inaccurate. WP:DATE recommends always using the year for clarity. Would you please consider reverting your revert. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114014700","author":"Truthanado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Truthanado-20241114014700-Natural-born-citizen_clause_(United_States)","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20241114085000-Truthanado-20241114014700"]}}-->

Thanks for asking. With equal respect, I disagree with that usage. It is common practice to say or to write something like "in [named month], [specified year[, [...]. In [later month in the same year], [...]." without repeating the year. Re your example, that would be an error and should be corrected by an editor noticing it, probably by specifying or otherwise indicating the differing year. If you disagree, please bring this up on the article talk page and/or the talk page of the relevant MOS page. I think that consensus would be with my view, but I could be wrong. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114085000","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20241114085000-Truthanado-20241114014700","replies":[]}}-->

Hi - I don't understand.

The subject of the section is the Acquisition of Alaska. The map shows U.S. Territorial Acquisitions, including an inset in the lower left which shows the acquisition of Hawaii via annexation and the acquisition of Alaska via purchase from Russia. Your edit summary reverting my edit says as much: "Lower left shows acquisition of Alaska..." Yet you reverted to your original version that says "...showing the Alaskan acquisition in an inset in the upper right". The upper right inset does indeed show Alaska, and Hawaii, and the whole hemisphere including all of North America, but in a general way without any mention of acquisition.

It seems plain to me that the lower left inset shows the acquisition of Alaska (and Hawaii), whereas the upper right inset does not. What am I missing? Cheers! Captainllama (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117003000","author":"Captainllama","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Captainllama-20241117003000-Manifest_destiny,_acquisition_of_Alaska_caption","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20241117014700-Captainllama-20241117003000"]}}-->

That was apparently an error on my part, and thanks for rubbing my nose in it. I've rolled back my reversion. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:47, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117014700","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20241117014700-Captainllama-20241117003000","replies":["c-Captainllama-20241117020100-Wtmitchell-20241117014700"]}}-->

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Greetings and felicitations. I noticed that you reverted my edit to Spratly Islands with the comment "Reverted good faith edits by DocWatson42 (talk): Note 'islands'. See table in the Geographic and economic overview section." I'm afraid I don't understand your point. I changed the conversion from square kilometers to hectares because the latter are more analogous to acres. The table you mention and the summarizing sentence below it both use hectares, so I am confused, as well as why you stated "Note 'islands'". (BTW, "which edit.Including a link" in the first paragraph on this page is missing a space.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215035800","author":"DocWatson42","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DocWatson42-20241215035800-Your_reversion_of_my_edit_to_\"Spratly_Islands\"","replies":["c-Wtmitchell-20241215120200-DocWatson42-20241215035800"]}}-->

I did this hurriedly because of the pressure of work outside of WP. I've taken a second quick look at it after seeing your message above and it still looks to me like there is a problem with your edit. Perhaps I am in too much of a rush and misunderstand; perhaps you misunderstand. I am writing this after having received notification of your comment here and taken a quick look at it. I simply don't have the time now to look and think carefully -- I will ask you to do that.

As I read your edit, it changed the area converted to acres from two square km to just two ha ha. That is a big change in the area being converted. I read your edit as an assertion that the total area of all of the Spratly islands is just 2 ha, not 2 square km -- perhaps I am confused and/or misread it. I have not taken the time to take a look at what the article or supporting sources say is the total area of all of the Spratlys I will try to look back at this when I have more time -- perhaps tomorrow my time here in the Philippines. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215120200","author":"Wtmitchell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wtmitchell-20241215120200-DocWatson42-20241215035800","replies":[]}}-->