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Hello Sir,

You declined this page as it was inadequate for submission, page link - Draft:GPTZero

I made a proper page on this same topic that got declined because of the above existing draft, Link to my page - Draft:GPTZERO

Please advice me, what i am supposed to do in this case? As i took alot of time drafting mine for submission, yet the existing one is declined with one line of code Yabancii (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC) Yabancii (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427092500","author":"Yabancii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yabancii-20230427092500-GPTZero_Draft","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230427092800-Yabancii-20230427092500"]}}-->

The draft that I declined as a test edit, had a single line “GPTZero is an AI detector” you should edit the other draft and blank the test one. Theroadislong (talk) 09:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427092800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230427092800-Yabancii-20230427092500","replies":["c-Yabancii-20230427100900-Theroadislong-20230427092800"]}}-->

Okay Sir, i was able to contact the person with the single line draft, he will delete his draft.

and then we will re-submit our main draft.

Thank you so much for replying back.

Yabancii (talk) 10:09, 27 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427100900","author":"Yabancii","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yabancii-20230427100900-Theroadislong-20230427092800","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, I just submitted two drafts of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Indoor_Advertising. Please consider the later because is has some errors corrected. Thank you. Fraredemptor (talk) 09:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230422095000","author":"Fraredemptor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fraredemptor-20230422095000-Indoor_Advertising","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230422095400-Fraredemptor-20230422095000"]}}-->

As you have been told the draft is "riddled with problems" tone is not appropriate and we already have an article on advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 09:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230422095400","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230422095400-Fraredemptor-20230422095000","replies":["c-Fraredemptor-20230424102200-Theroadislong-20230422095400"]}}-->

My article refers to a specific form of advertising - indoor advertising. This is different from put of home advertising and this is the sole purpose of my article. I have tried to correct the problems of my article. Please take a look at it. Fraredemptor (talk) 10:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230424102200","author":"Fraredemptor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fraredemptor-20230424102200-Theroadislong-20230422095400","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230424110300-Fraredemptor-20230424102200"]}}-->

I suggest you ask for help here Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk Theroadislong (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230424110300","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230424110300-Fraredemptor-20230424102200","replies":["c-Fraredemptor-20230428073500-Theroadislong-20230424110300"]}}-->

Hi. I followed your advice but I didn t get any replay. So what should I do now? are you going to revise my draft once more or not? it s been a week since my last attempt to post my text but i didn t get any answer. Fraredemptor (talk) 07:35, 28 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230428073500","author":"Fraredemptor","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Fraredemptor-20230428073500-Theroadislong-20230424110300","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230428074200-Fraredemptor-20230428073500"]}}-->

You can re-submit Draft:Indoor Advertising for review, I won't review it again, I don't think we need a separate article on indoor advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230428074200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230428074200-Fraredemptor-20230428073500","replies":[]}}-->

• Varun Godham (talk · contribs)
  • User:Varun Godham/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Varun Godham (talk) 14:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230429140300","author":"Varun Godham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Varun_Godham-20230429140300-Request_on_14:03:21,_29_April_2023_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Varun_God","replies":[]}}-->

Your draft needs to show how the subject passes the criteria at WP:NWRITER, also note that blogs and YouTube are not usually reliable sources.

Hello Theroadislong, can you please mention why I used copyrighted content? All the informations given on the article is from the official website of bKash Limited. Hence, it will be really helpful if you could inform me about the copyrighted details so that I can recover accordingly. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 12:43, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430124300","author":"Sakib.mahboob","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sakib.mahboob-20230430124300-Regarding_bKash_Limited_Wikipedia_Article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230430124700-Sakib.mahboob-20230430124300"]}}-->

Exactly Sakib.mahboob, you also said in your edit summary "All the informations are taken from their official website: https://www.bkash.com/en/about" you CANNOT copy and paste content from their site, we have no interest in what their own website says in any case, we need independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:47, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430124700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230430124700-Sakib.mahboob-20230430124300","replies":["c-Sakib.mahboob-20230430130600-Theroadislong-20230430124700"]}}-->

Thanks Theroadislong. I have updated the writeup and did it on my own. Now, I have not copied from any article/website rather did the writeup which I used on my University assignment. Requesting you to please check and approve. I am really eager on Wikipedia and want to be an active participant. If it is possible, I will be very glad to learn more from you. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 13:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430130600","author":"Sakib.mahboob","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sakib.mahboob-20230430130600-Theroadislong-20230430124700","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230430130800-Sakib.mahboob-20230430130600"]}}-->

I have reverted your edit it was entirely promotional an unsourced, please STOP. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430130800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230430130800-Sakib.mahboob-20230430130600","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I have tagged you on the Talk section of bKash Board of Director section. Please have a look. I think it is an important information and has to be updated. Sakib.mahboob (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430200200","author":"Sakib.mahboob","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sakib.mahboob-20230430200200-bKash_Information_Update","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Theroadislong. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:IndieVest/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 10:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230502101900","author":"FireflyBot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FireflyBot-20230502101900-Concern_regarding_User:IndieVest\/sandbox","replies":[]}}-->

Hi @Theroadislong,

Thank you for getting back.

The Interior Design industry regard is driven primarily by published interior design projects, ‘design’ focused features and thought leadership in interviews, dialogues, teaching, books and published articles.  

An attempt has been made to establish Gary’s notability and cite reliable, in-depth sources.

Amongst all the cited sources, which ones can be retained to get the Wiki approved? SKCOTT (talk) 17:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230502171400","author":"SKCOTT","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SKCOTT-20230502171400-Draft:_Gary_Hutton","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230502175500-SKCOTT-20230502171400"]}}-->

The sources you have added are an improvement on what was there, do you have an undisclosed conflict of interest by any chance? the personal life section has zero sources where did the content come from? With regard to establishing notability Wikipedia ignores interviews and dialogues as they are not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 17:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230502175500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230502175500-SKCOTT-20230502171400","replies":[]}}-->

1.If we don't find any independent resources on the topic on which we want to make an article, will an article on that topic can enter wikipedia article space?

2.how you write an article on those topics which don't have any reliable or independent sources? Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503082000","author":"Bhubaneswar2009","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bhubaneswar2009-20230503082000-Some_questions","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230503082500-Bhubaneswar2009-20230503082000"]}}-->

Wikipedia articles are based on reliable independent sources, if they don't exist then we can't have an article on that topic. Theroadislong (talk) 08:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503082500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230503082500-Bhubaneswar2009-20230503082000","replies":["c-Bhubaneswar2009-20230503082800-Theroadislong-20230503082500"]}}-->

Thanks for the information. Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503082800","author":"Bhubaneswar2009","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bhubaneswar2009-20230503082800-Theroadislong-20230503082500","replies":[]}}-->

Can you please accept it now? The mainspace article is a redirect now tagged for deletion. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503122700","author":"Kailash29792","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kailash29792-20230503122700-Draft:_Ponniyin_Selvan:_II","replies":[]}}-->

Hi! I don't know how I've come here, but an article I've created does not exist. I do not understand how this project works now, but I worked hard on it. Having read some of the policies, it's up for some review, and you're on that list. Can you review it for me? דפישולץ (talk) 12:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503123800","author":"\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5-20230503123800-Can_you_help_me?","replies":[]}}-->

It's Draft:Ayala Hasson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by דפישולץ (talk • contribs) 12:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503123900","author":"\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5-20230503123900-Can_you_help_me?","replies":[]}}-->

I'll be very grateful if you do it for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by דפישולץ (talk • contribs) 12:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503124200","author":"\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5-20230503124200-Can_you_help_me?","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20230504094100-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5-20230503124200"]}}-->

@דפישולץ: please stop posting your request on reviewers' talk pages; the draft has been submitted, and someone will get around to it sooner or later, you don't need to personally request reviews. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230504094100","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20230504094100-\u05d3\u05e4\u05d9\u05e9\u05d5\u05dc\u05e5-20230503124200","replies":[]}}-->

Hello sir/madam

I saw that you declined my submission on the Wiki page about Korat Adveentist International School. Can you please be more specific about where it wasn't neutral? Thanks. Airuang3004 (talk) 01:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230505012600","author":"Airuang3004","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airuang3004-20230505012600-Please_specify","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230505070100-Airuang3004-20230505012600"]}}-->

The whole draft is just blatant advertising for the school, all the sources are their own website, we have zero interest in what that says. Sources need to be independent. Theroadislong (talk) 07:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230505070100","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230505070100-Airuang3004-20230505012600","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Theroadislong. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230506063700","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20230506063700-Your_draft_article,_User:IndieVest\/sandbox","replies":[]}}-->

In the UK, honorary titles are not put before a name. The topic of Mordaunt's honorary rank is also open on the talk page. Can you go to that before reverting edits, please? Catiline63 (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230506104100","author":"Catiline63","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Catiline63-20230506104100-Honorary_Ranks,_Penny_Mordaunt","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230506104400-Catiline63-20230506104100"]}}-->

Apologies, I was reverting the idiotic censorship of "cock" which your edit re-added! Theroadislong (talk) 10:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230506104400","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230506104400-Catiline63-20230506104100","replies":["c-Catiline63-20230506104500-Theroadislong-20230506104400"]}}-->

No problem. Thanks :) Catiline63 (talk) 10:45, 6 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230506104500","author":"Catiline63","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Catiline63-20230506104500-Theroadislong-20230506104400","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks, mate. I kind of promised the creator to help with this, but didn't get around to it. Good to know you've accepted it now. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430073400","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20230430073400-The_Fourteen_of_Meaux","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230430073700-DoubleGrazing-20230430073400"]}}-->

Yes though strangely they had messed the draft up again with this edit [1] It looks Ok now though and an interesting topic. Theroadislong (talk) 07:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430073700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230430073700-DoubleGrazing-20230430073400","replies":["c-Rowbarton-20230509052700-Theroadislong-20230430073700"]}}-->

Theroadislong: Thank you for your continuing patient and kind support but I have to say that, at my advanced age, I do not believe I have the faculty to easily assimilate these tortuous instructions and the technical language required to meet the required standards for acceptance of my submission. This you have long mastered as evidenced by your great experience and contributions over such a long period. Would it be therefore impudent of me (in noting your positive remarks about my subject to DoubleGrazing) be prepared (if protocols allow) to complete my contribution to an acceptable standard under your name? It is, I firmly believe, of considerable theistic importance to the Protestant movement in France and to the history of Meaux in particular that the history of The Fourteen of Meaux should have its' place in Wikipedia. If this be impertinence I will not be offended to be told and I will persevere but question my ability, at 93, to complete before Azrael gathers me into his arms. Deo volente! Rowbarton. Rowbarton (talk) 05:27, 9 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230509052700","author":"Rowbarton","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rowbarton-20230509052700-Theroadislong-20230430073700","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230509072000-Rowbarton-20230509052700"]}}-->

Rowbarton As previously advised on your talk page, your article was accepted on 30th April you can see it if you click the link here The Fourteen of Meaux. Theroadislong (talk) 07:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230509072000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230509072000-Rowbarton-20230509052700","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your support of the Michael Felts article! Can the notability warning be removed? I am wary of doing it myself for fear of seeming biased. -Etoile ✩ (talk) 15:16, 9 May 2023 (UTC) I am also wary, maybe leave it a while and see if others add more references. Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 9 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230509151600","author":"Etoile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Etoile-20230509151600-Thank_you!","replies":[],"displayName":"Etoile \u2729"}}-->

Can we use school website as a "reference" for staff details and student enrollment details in school articles? Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 04:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230510041600","author":"Bhubaneswar2009","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bhubaneswar2009-20230510041600-Some_Questions_2","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230510072300-Bhubaneswar2009-20230510041600"]}}-->

Yes you can but the draft still fails WP:NSCHOOL and YouTube is not a reliable source, neither are listings. Theroadislong (talk) 07:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230510072300","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230510072300-Bhubaneswar2009-20230510041600","replies":[]}}-->

Except the problem you stated in my draft, what other problems are there in my draft? and what improvements can be done ?

Bhubaneswar2009 (talk) 08:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230510083700","author":"Bhubaneswar2009","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bhubaneswar2009-20230510083700-Some_Questions_2","replies":[]}}-->

Hey! Keep seeing you at AFC. Have you ever considered adminship? Very few admins work at AFC. We could so use an admin at AFC. If you’ve been around this long with your experience and never gone for it, you probably have no interest I guess. But you’d be great? — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511113500","author":"MaxnaCarta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MaxnaCarta-20230511113500-Admin","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230511113600-MaxnaCarta-20230511113500"]}}-->

I have been asked a number of times, but could really do without the extra stress involved! Theroadislong (talk) 11:36, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511113600","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230511113600-MaxnaCarta-20230511113500","replies":["c-Bishzilla-20230511114300-Theroadislong-20230511113600","c-MaxnaCarta-20230511123400-Theroadislong-20230511113600"]}}-->

[Bishzilla amused.] Bishonen admin, she never stress! Laziest user on Wikipedia! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 11:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511114300","author":"Bishzilla","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bishzilla-20230511114300-Theroadislong-20230511113600","replies":[]}}-->

Honestly don’t blame you at all. As I’ve gotten into backend areas I’ve seen the nonsense people have to put up with. But still, even if you only used your mop for speedy deleting at AFC and spam reduction it would be so useful! I’m not known enough to nominate but I’d be first in with a support vote if you decide! AFC has become turned into a dumping ground for COI spam nonsense instead of what it should be, a soft landing place for genuine new editors trying to develop a good article without it being tagged and deleted… — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:34, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511123400","author":"MaxnaCarta","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MaxnaCarta-20230511123400-Theroadislong-20230511113600","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230511124200-MaxnaCarta-20230511123400"]}}-->

I've had a fair amount of abuse on and also off Wikipedia in the past for what I do at AFC, I prefer to keep a low profile and plod on. You are correct about AFC being a dumping ground for COI spam nonsense and it seems to be getting worse! Theroadislong (talk) 12:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511124200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230511124200-MaxnaCarta-20230511123400","replies":["c-MaxnaCarta-20230511130200-Theroadislong-20230511124200"]}}-->

I’ll help you fight it however I can! — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511130200","author":"MaxnaCarta","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MaxnaCarta-20230511130200-Theroadislong-20230511124200","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Thank you for your input with this. I have made several corrections and re-written sections. I have put in verifiable references to the main body....but how do I verify the personal information such as, he is married with 3 children etc.........and/or do I need to verify this?

Many Thanks

KathyAustin KA23 (talk) 07:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511075900","author":"KathyAustin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KathyAustin-20230511075900-Keith_Thompson_(Musician)","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230511080400-KathyAustin-20230511075900"],"displayName":"KA23"}}-->

You absolutely MUST reference any personal details per WP:BLP, that entire section is unsourced at the moment where did you find the content? Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)`__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230511080400","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230511080400-KathyAustin-20230511075900","replies":["c-KathyAustin-20230512081500-Theroadislong-20230511080400"]}}-->

OK.....Uhmm I don't know how to reference that. I know Keith and his family personally so I know this information but I don't know how to prove that. Unless there is a way to source this that I don't know about...perhaps I should just leave it off????

Kathy KA23 (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512081500","author":"KathyAustin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-KathyAustin-20230512081500-Theroadislong-20230511080400","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230512081800-KathyAustin-20230512081500"],"displayName":"KA23"}}-->

Your personal knowledge has no place in Wikipedia, we base ALL content on reliable independent published sources. If there are no sources for the content you will need to remove it per WP:BLP. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512081800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230512081800-KathyAustin-20230512081500","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Theroadislong

Hope it’s OK to consult you again about this Draft article.

But first, could I just say something? There was a very interesting article about Wikipedia in the UK ‘Daily Telegraph’ a week or so ago. I am hardly the biggest contributor to Wikipedia, https://en.wikiscan.org/user/ArchaicW, with three original articles and quite a few additions to existing articles, but apparently as a result I am in the top 5% of contributors!

As a measure of involvement, I’ve also spent quite a bit of my own money on buying books and quality illustrations to help with my contributions to Wikipedia (and also made an annual donation.) So this Draft article is not a paid for ‘one off’ trying to promote some unknown person or commercial company. I do feel that Wikipedia could do more to encourage people like me.

Anyway, at your suggestion, I put this article up for Review two months ago – and since then nobody has looked at it! I suspect this is because it has your name above it, so other reviewers are reluctant to comment.

To be honest I’m a bit puzzled. On the basis of you previously approving my three articles, after I had written the first draft, but specifically without adding any references or illustrations etc, I asked if you would look at it. You replied as follows:

“ With sufficient sources I see no reason why Wikipedia couldn't have such an article. Theroadislong (talk) ”

I must say I took that to mean that, subject to adding those sufficient sources, you would accept the article? I therefore added, as I had intended anyway, a series of good references, eg in books published by Historic Scotland staff etc, and illustrations.

I re-submitted this to you, at which point you said it read too much like an essay. Re-reading it with that comment in mind, I could see there were too many ‘seems’ and ‘maybe’ phrases, so I have removed those and worked to make the Draft much more factual.

You also suggested that I put the Draft up for Review, but, as above, nobody has looked at it. Could I ask you therefore now to have another look? I’m sure you are very busy, but if you still think the draft article is not balanced enough, could you please advise me on exactly what you think is still wrong? If you have no time to do that, could you perhaps recommend another reviewer who might be in tune with this draft article?

I do feel that this article is a useful contribution to the whole ‘Scottish Castles’ field and not covered elsewhere. If the article is published, I feel sure others will come along and add more detail.

Apologies for the length of this essay Thank you. ArchaicW (talk) 13:47, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512134700","author":"ArchaicW","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ArchaicW-20230512134700-Draft:Scottish_Castles_Restoration_Projects","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230512173700-ArchaicW-20230512134700"]}}-->

I will leave this for another reviewer, it stills feels like it's written in an essay style to me. Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512173700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230512173700-ArchaicW-20230512134700","replies":[]}}-->

Hello there,

Since you are one of the most active users in AFC, would you mind reviewing Draft:Prakash Neupane? I have added reliable references to the article and it has been on the pending list for quite a while. Thank you for your consideration. DIVINE 18:07, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512180700","author":"DIVINE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DIVINE-20230512180700-Draft_article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230512181100-DIVINE-20230512180700"],"displayName":"DIV"}}-->

I see it has been deleted 9 times, you need to ensure that the draft passes the criteria at WP:NSINGER and I'm not clear how it does so I'll leave it for another reviewer rather than disappoint you with a decline. Theroadislong (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512181100","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230512181100-DIVINE-20230512180700","replies":["c-DIVINE-20230512182400-Theroadislong-20230512181100"]}}-->

You’re absolutely correct here that it has been deleted multiple times which can be clearly seen from the deletion logs. As the Ratopati, Lokantaar, Nepallivetoday, republica (as their staffs are mentioned as a contributor) but not an actual contributor platform which we can see from depth-review, The Hindu are WP:RS and national medias where it has been covered that the singer has won awards and has toured internationally , ABC Nepal TV is national TV, Taha Khabar national media of Nepal, BBC : The Cultural Program is actually a radio show which can be seen so, believe it passes the above criteria of WP:NSINGER for me but I’m not sure about you as you know very well than me I believe. But again Thankyou for your response & happy editing ! DIVINE 18:24, 12 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230512182400","author":"DIVINE","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DIVINE-20230512182400-Theroadislong-20230512181100","replies":[],"displayName":"DIV"}}-->

Hi there, just fixed the links to Will Lyle article through Discogs, All About Jazz, and Bass Magazine. Removed references to website. Thanks for your feedback! Th!ccdad587 (talk) 19:44, 13 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230513194400","author":"Th!ccdad587","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Th!ccdad587-20230513194400-Will_Lyle_-_bassist","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Sir Aartii previous name was Akruti Mistry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aartii_Naagpal Rayemufc1995 (talk) 12:55, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514125500","author":"Rayemufc1995","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rayemufc1995-20230514125500-Aartii_Naagpal_Wiki_Page","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514125800-Rayemufc1995-20230514125500"]}}-->

OK but we still need sources need to be reliable, in-depth and independent and yours are not, they are just listings. Theroadislong (talk) 12:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514125800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514125800-Rayemufc1995-20230514125500","replies":["c-Rayemufc1995-20230514130200-Theroadislong-20230514125800"]}}-->

please could you help me out Rayemufc1995 (talk) 13:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514130200","author":"Rayemufc1995","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rayemufc1995-20230514130200-Theroadislong-20230514125800","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Theroadislong, thank you so much for reviewing my article in the draft space. However, the comments stayed the same from the last review, even though I added a few more sources. Personally, I do think that the stories in the books are giving an in-depth information about the company. Besides that, I added a couple of secondary sources, which might not be independent, but they are still considered secondary. I really wish to receive a proper feedback, which I am not getting already for a month, and it is really discouraging me from counting to edit in Wikipedia. Please, if you will have time, could you please go over the article one more time, and suggest what I can add and what to change? Thank you. I hope to get a proper feedback this time. Gevorg Ghazaryan (talk) 13:06, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514130600","author":"Gevorg Ghazaryan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514130600-Draft:Gray_and_Sons","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514131100-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514130600"]}}-->

[2] is just an advert not a reliable source [3] is a press release so not independent and [4] is a blog so not reliable. Theroadislong (talk) 13:11, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514131100","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514131100-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514130600","replies":["c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514131400-Theroadislong-20230514131100","c-Theroadislong-20230514132500-Theroadislong-20230514131100"]}}-->

Theroadislong, what about the two other ones? Because the sources you mentioned, I was considering them as secondary ones, which I think can be press releases and blog posts. The first one is an informative page on the town's government websites, can it be an advertisement? thank you. --Gevorg Ghazaryan (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514131400","author":"Gevorg Ghazaryan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514131400-Theroadislong-20230514131100","replies":[]}}-->

They may be secondary sources, but they are NOT reliable so cannot be used to establish any notability I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514132500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514132500-Theroadislong-20230514131100","replies":["c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514132800-Theroadislong-20230514132500"]}}-->

What about the books? And, isn't the government website considered reliable? Besides that, I can also provide some more sources from books, and also interviews with the owner that are published on Amazon Music, Apple Music, and so on.--Gevorg Ghazaryan (talk) 13:28, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514132800","author":"Gevorg Ghazaryan","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514132800-Theroadislong-20230514132500","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514133200-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514132800"]}}-->

i can't comment on the books, but inerviews are also NOT independent or reliable so cannot be used. Theroadislong (talk) 13:32, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514133200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514133200-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514132800","replies":["c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514133800-Theroadislong-20230514133200"]}}-->

Then, what is the problem with the books? Because, as far as I know, this kind of books or publications are considered main sources in many cases. If the publications, press releases, interviews, blog posts, government websites, competition websites and so on are not reliable sources, then at least I should be able to use the books.--Gevorg Ghazaryan (talk) 13:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514133800","author":"Gevorg Ghazaryan","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514133800-Theroadislong-20230514133200","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514134400-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514133800"]}}-->

there is no problem with the books except I have no idea what they say about the subject do they have in-depth significant coverage of the company? You need to be able to pass the criteria at WP:NCORP. Theroadislong (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514134400","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514134400-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514133800","replies":["c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514135200-Theroadislong-20230514134400"]}}-->

I wish I was able to share the information in the books, but I cannot do so because of copyright restrictions. I would also love to cite the sentences and the paragraphs where it is mentioning about Gray and Sons. More than half of the books in the world are not available online, does that mean that they cannot be used as sources? --Gevorg Ghazaryan (talk) 13:52, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514135200","author":"Gevorg Ghazaryan","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514135200-Theroadislong-20230514134400","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514135800-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514135200"]}}-->

You are perfectly free to share what the books say without copy and pasting any content. Theroadislong (talk) 13:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514135800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514135800-Gevorg_Ghazaryan-20230514135200","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230514140100-Theroadislong-20230514135800"]}}-->

You can also get other opinions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. I will not review the draft again. Theroadislong (talk) 14:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230514140100","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230514140100-Theroadislong-20230514135800","replies":[]}}-->

• Sujit Tiwary (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bikrant Tiwary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I can not understand why my acticle is denied from being published in the main page. Please help me to understand my mistakes. i will sureky correct it and submit to review it again.

thank you.

Sujit Tiwary (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230515141800","author":"Sujit Tiwary","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sujit_Tiwary-20230515141800-Request_on_14:18:35,_15_May_2023_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Sujit_Tiwar","replies":["c-Tenryuu-20230515145200-Sujit_Tiwary-20230515141800"]}}-->

(talk page watcher) @Sujit Tiwary: The most obvious thing is the use of external links in the body, which aren't done on Wikipedia articles. If they must exist, they have to go in their own section at the bottom of an article. The references you're using link to the site's home page instead of to whatever page is supposed to link to, and even then, they seem like primary sources, which do not establish the subject's notability as defined on Wikipedia.

I find the use of promotional language to be the number 1 reason why your draft would not be accepted. Wikipedia is not a place to tell people how Tiwary:

From his early childhood he was a very brilliant student and was also a very social person and attracted towards environment. He always wanted to do something for the betterment of the society.

The use of gratuitous boldface isn't needed.

Also, if you're related to the subject, please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have with him. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230515145200","author":"Tenryuu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tenryuu-20230515145200-Sujit_Tiwary-20230515141800","replies":[],"displayName":"Tenryuu\u00a0\ud83d\udc32"}}-->

Please do not harassment/accusation other editors, as you did at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Comment on notability, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. 1.47.16.104 (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230520110300","author":"1.47.16.104","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1.47.16.104-20230520110300-May_2023","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20230524161900-1.47.16.104-20230520110300"]}}-->

LOL :))

Straight from the 'best defence is a good offence' school...

Do you feel suitably reprimanded now, TRIL? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230524161900","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20230524161900-1.47.16.104-20230520110300","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230524174800-DoubleGrazing-20230524161900"]}}-->

Yes and I am also pleased that the "character Sun Wukong from the book is likely amused". Theroadislong (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230524174800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230524174800-DoubleGrazing-20230524161900","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there, I spotted that you have corrected my article/given some good suggestions. Hopefully it's headed in a good direction.

I wanted to ask whether you have any tips on which pictures to choose for an actor's wiki page - are there any type that I should avoid, or any recommended ones? I am keen to find one for both the Alice Fearn's page I am working on, as well as the one for Grace Mouat.

Any help is really appreciated, as I am quite new to wiki! :) Musicalge3k5 (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230525181600","author":"Musicalge3k5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Musicalge3k5-20230525181600-How_to_choose_an_actor's_picture_to_upload","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230525201300-Musicalge3k5-20230525181600"]}}-->

I have left you some info on your talk page, any photograph would have to have the correct license, I only ever upload photographs that I have taken myself, that is the safest option. Theroadislong (talk) 20:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230525201300","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230525201300-Musicalge3k5-20230525181600","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, why are we re submitting draft Draft:She Code Africa when it just got declined, am I missing something? And also in general, when do we know to take the page creator's word for it when they say they are not paid? Thank you The Tips of Apmh 13:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230526133000","author":"The Tips of Apmh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230526133000-Theroadislong","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230526135200-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230526133000"],"displayName":"The Tips"}}-->

If you check the draft history you will see that another user submitted it, we always take other editors word when they say they are not paid, unless there is good evidence to suggest otherwise. Theroadislong (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230526135200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230526135200-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230526133000","replies":[]}}-->

hello, no one is paid for doing this article. The radio station and owning company are both non profit and we are all volunteers. However you and a few others said i needed to put the paid part in before it could be considered for publish. so I am at a loss of what to do.

KC0UUF Kc0uuf (talk) 21:44, 26 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230526214400","author":"Kc0uuf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kc0uuf-20230526214400-KLZY-LP","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230527065200-Kc0uuf-20230526214400"]}}-->

As advised on your talk page "you still have a conflict of interest since you are involved with the organization" you need to make the disclosure on your talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 06:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230527065200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230527065200-Kc0uuf-20230526214400","replies":[]}}-->

I made it less "inappropriate" for encyclopedia .

could you check it once again please ? MuseologyLabIU (talk) 16:10, 24 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230524161000","author":"MuseologyLabIU","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MuseologyLabIU-20230524161000-Tha_battle_of_crete","replies":["c-195.130.124.5-20230525223800-MuseologyLabIU-20230524161000"]}}-->

Just removed it 195.130.124.5 (talk) 22:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230525223800","author":"195.130.124.5","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-195.130.124.5-20230525223800-MuseologyLabIU-20230524161000","replies":["c-MuseologyLabIU-20230527190000-195.130.124.5-20230525223800"]}}-->

which article do you think needs more sources ? would you like to help me by be more specific. I am doing this first time ass a homework for the university. MuseologyLabIU (talk) 19:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230527190000","author":"MuseologyLabIU","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MuseologyLabIU-20230527190000-195.130.124.5-20230525223800","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230527191500-MuseologyLabIU-20230527190000"]}}-->

Articles are based on what reliable, independent sources say, virtually all the content here is unreferenced. Where did the content come from? Please cite your sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230527191500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230527191500-MuseologyLabIU-20230527190000","replies":[]}}-->

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can u pls add my article? pls? 2404:4402:23F7:2B00:ECBD:F08:ABF:5DE1 (talk) 05:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230529054900","author":"2404:4402:23F7:2B00:ECBD:F08:ABF:5DE1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2404:4402:23F7:2B00:ECBD:F08:ABF:5DE1-20230529054900-my_article_i_want_to_be_added_ok?","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Theroadislong. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:The Hon. Erin Massey, 6th. Lady Clarina, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Regarding your doubts on reliability - you might be surprised. DS (talk) 02:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230602022900","author":"DragonflySixtyseven","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DragonflySixtyseven-20230602022900-Circopedia","replies":[],"displayName":"DS"}}-->

Hi again!

Why did you remove the submission template and add a comment as if it was pending review? I'm curious as I'm learning to become a reviewer --Apmh 15:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230602152900","author":"The Tips of Apmh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230602152900-Draft:Michael_Leiters","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230602155300-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230602152900"]}}-->

Looks like that was a glitch in the software, I have re-added the submit template. Thanks for noticing! Theroadislong (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230602155300","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230602155300-The_Tips_of_Apmh-20230602152900","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, could you help me understand why the four references used do not satisfy the requirements? There are 3 from news agencies and 1 from the league itself. PixelStudiosSocial (talk) 09:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604090100","author":"PixelStudiosSocial","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090100-Telugu_Talons","replies":["c-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090800-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090100"]}}-->

I just saw your message concerning Paid editing. I am not being paid to create this article. Rather, I am a friend of a few players on the team. I noticed that the league page showed all the teams in red. So, I decided to create this page for them, so they can get more exposure. Handball is very small in India. This is a HUGE opportunities for all the players. Every single one of them has full time jobs, in addition to their sports endeavors. However, the league is not managing this well. If I were paid by the team, I would rather spend my time creating a website for them, which they also don't have; or at least manage their social media accounts. But since I am unrelated, the best I can do is to put something on Wikipedia. PixelStudiosSocial (talk) 09:08, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604090800","author":"PixelStudiosSocial","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090800-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090100","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230604091000-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090800"]}}-->

That is absolutely NOT what Wikipedia is for, please use social media or create a website for them. Theroadislong (talk) 09:10, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604091000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230604091000-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604090800","replies":["c-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604091900-Theroadislong-20230604091000"]}}-->

Very odd, because this is exactly how most of the pages for sports team and leagues are for. You are reading into my intent rather than focusing on the information at hand. Regardless of my intent, the value of the information is neither that of self promotion nor worthless. Thank you for your time, but I believe you are way more emotional about this content than a qualified reviewer should have. Have a nice day. PixelStudiosSocial (talk) 09:19, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604091900","author":"PixelStudiosSocial","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-PixelStudiosSocial-20230604091900-Theroadislong-20230604091000","replies":[]}}-->

I have declined the speedy deletion as the redirect there is from a merge and the history is required for attribution. I think a form of history merge is required but i am not familiar with how to do it. You might need to ask at WP:RM for somebody with more experience to look at it. - Whpq (talk) 13:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604134500","author":"Whpq","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Whpq-20230604134500-198_(number)","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230604141000-Whpq-20230604134500"]}}-->

Ok thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 14:10, 4 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230604141000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230604141000-Whpq-20230604134500","replies":[]}}-->

Hey,

I want to know why Bookchor company profile rejected. We are verified account - fb and Whatsapp, more than 2+ Million users. Can You help me listing company profile on wikipedia. 

Thank You 103.61.197.51 (talk) 10:38, 7 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230607103800","author":"103.61.197.51","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-103.61.197.51-20230607103800-Hey_I_want_to_know_the_reason--","replies":["c-331dot-20230607103900-103.61.197.51-20230607103800"]}}-->

Wikipedia does not have "company profiles", not a single one. Wikipedia has articles, typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic. Wikipedia is not a mere database where existence permits inclusion. This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called notability. 331dot (talk) 10:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230607103900","author":"331dot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-331dot-20230607103900-103.61.197.51-20230607103800","replies":[]}}-->

I need your assistance completing this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shareen_Mantri_Kedia Shashwat185 (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230607122900","author":"Shashwat185","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shashwat185-20230607122900-Need_Help_Completing_this_Draft_of_Shareen_Mantri_Kedia","replies":["c-UtherSRG-20230607124200-Shashwat185-20230607122900"]}}-->

@Shashwat185: That draft has been rejected. You should stop work on it and consider working on something else. I suggest reading WP:BACKWARD if you want to create a new article. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:42, 7 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230607124200","author":"UtherSRG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-UtherSRG-20230607124200-Shashwat185-20230607122900","replies":[]}}-->

You have reviewed and declined my article, could you please help me. Poojasrireddy (talk) 11:39, 5 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230605113900","author":"Poojasrireddy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Poojasrireddy-20230605113900-Continental_Hospital","replies":["c-UtherSRG-20230607124400-Poojasrireddy-20230605113900"]}}-->

@Poojasrireddy: Your draft fails WP:GNG. I suggest you read that and WP:BACKWARD to understand how to better create an article. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230607124400","author":"UtherSRG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-UtherSRG-20230607124400-Poojasrireddy-20230605113900","replies":[]}}-->

Hi i am from namah's internal team, i understand that there is i issue but can you please help me out with the following i am happy to connect on WhatsApp/Txt my number +91 7985442554 Shashwat185 (talk) 12:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608120600","author":"Shashwat185","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shashwat185-20230608120600-Help_to_publish_the_article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230608183200-Shashwat185-20230608120600"]}}-->

Your draft has been rejected it won't be considered again. You still haven't adequately responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor either. Theroadislong (talk) 18:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608183200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230608183200-Shashwat185-20230608120600","replies":[]}}-->

You seem to have added a COI tag to the article about me. I can't see any explanation of what it is that you object to, so I am at a loss to know what to do to improve it. Please could you advise? RoachPeter (talk) 19:03, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608190300","author":"RoachPeter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RoachPeter-20230608190300-Peter_Roach_(phonetician)","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230608190600-RoachPeter-20230608190300"]}}-->

As you are the subject of the article you should use the {{request edit}} template on the article's talk page and not edit the article directly. Theroadislong (talk) 19:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608190600","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230608190600-RoachPeter-20230608190300","replies":["c-RoachPeter-20230608200200-Theroadislong-20230608190600"]}}-->

The recent edits that I made (in response to comments that the article lacked references) were four in number. I have made a start on requesting that someone else make the edit for me, and have removed the offending references. Are all four to be regarded as cases of COI? In the "Research" section, all I have done is add references to published sources that are related to articles that are already in Wikipedia. I really struggle to see how this creates a conflict of interest, but if my edit requests work I will continue with the others. RoachPeter (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608200200","author":"RoachPeter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-RoachPeter-20230608200200-Theroadislong-20230608190600","replies":["c-Wpscatter-20230608201400-RoachPeter-20230608200200"]}}-->

Hi Peter. I think you might be misunderstanding; it's not that the specific references you added had issues (and I've restored them to the article for now). I think Theroadislong just happened to notice that the article has been contributed to in large part by you, which can be a sign of a poor article. You should make edit requests in the future as mentioned rather than edit the article directly, but that doesn't mean every contribution you have made has to be removed. At some point in the future, another editor will assess the article to see if it's particularly biased due to your contributions (at a glance, it doesn't seem so to me), make any necessary changes to adhere to Wikipedia policies on neutral point of view, notability, reliable sources and due weight, and remove the COI notice. WPscatter ^t/_c 20:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230608201400","author":"Wpscatter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Wpscatter-20230608201400-RoachPeter-20230608200200","replies":["c-RoachPeter-20230609062700-Wpscatter-20230608201400"]}}-->

Thank you for explaining. I had not understood the COI rules. I'm happy to wait for further advice. RoachPeter (talk) 06:27, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609062700","author":"RoachPeter","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-RoachPeter-20230609062700-Wpscatter-20230608201400","replies":[]}}-->

In the Evolution page, one sentence claims the following: "Despite the estimated extinction of more than 99% of all species that ever lived on Earth, about 1 trillion species are estimated to be on Earth currently with only one-thousandth of 1% described.", while the next section claims something different: "Estimates on the number of Earth's current species range from 10 million to 14 million". This is why I removed the first section, it's bad to have contradictory statements like this. TheVictoryOfTheProletariat (talk) 16:15, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609161500","author":"TheVictoryOfTheProletariat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheVictoryOfTheProletariat-20230609161500-Contradiction","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Theroadislong,

I hope you are doing well. I replied to your message earlier, however, I'll also drop my response here. Regarding this wikipedia topic, I am not a paid editor; I am just a college student building this website for an academic credit. To clarify, the topic for this assignment is "impacts in your community". Since I am latino, and lowkey heading down the pre med track, I kinda figured this local org would be a cool topic to tackle.

If there is anything else I should attempt in order to successfully finish this topic, pls let me know.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best,

-MMM MedicalMrMoose (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609155500","author":"MedicalMrMoose","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MedicalMrMoose-20230609155500-National_Hispanic_Medical_Association","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230609160200-MedicalMrMoose-20230609155500"]}}-->

It's not at all clear how they pass WP:NORG? Theroadislong (talk) 16:02, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609160200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230609160200-MedicalMrMoose-20230609155500","replies":["c-MedicalMrMoose-20230609161700-Theroadislong-20230609160200"]}}-->

Overall, just by making a small Wikipedia post. It's supposed to be a quick and easy A, really. So here are the main parts of the assignment:

1. Why did you select this article to create or improve? What is the larger historical significance of this entry, and how does your work make it better?

2. How did you improve/create this entry and bring it to “good” status? Why did you choose to intervene in these ways?

3. How does your work show your skills completing historical research? In highlighting Latin American Joy or Impacts To Your Community?

4. How did you shape your edits to meet the Wikipedia community guidelines (5 Pillars)

5. What, if any, interactions did you have with other Wikipedia editors?

You are required to meet all of the "regular" specifications, but the total length and number of sources is higher:

compose at least five new paragraphs with at least three internal wikilinks each (around 5000-6000 characters or 750 to 1000 words total)

incorporate at least four reference sources that meet Wikipedia's standards for evidence (footnoted in the “Sources” section)

include an image from Wikicommons (where appropriate - if not, make sure to explain this in your project memo)

So, this really is mostly what the assignment revolves on and how I'm getting graded.

Best,

-MMM MedicalMrMoose (talk) 16:17, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609161700","author":"MedicalMrMoose","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MedicalMrMoose-20230609161700-Theroadislong-20230609160200","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230609164800-MedicalMrMoose-20230609161700"]}}-->

This is an encyclopaedia which has guidelines for inclusion of topics, your topic needs to pass the criteria at WP:NORG and it's not clear how it does yet. Has your tutor read Wikipedia:Student assignments? "Student assignments can help improve Wikipedia, but they can also cause the encyclopedia more harm than good when not directed properly." Theroadislong (talk) 16:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230609164800","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230609164800-MedicalMrMoose-20230609161700","replies":[]}}-->

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for all the AfC review work you do, it is appreciated. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 08:47, 10 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230610084700","author":"Zippybonzo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zippybonzo-20230610084700-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->

I have removed the google references Nanyutterman (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230614103100","author":"Nanyutterman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nanyutterman-20230614103100-Removal_of_google_references","replies":[]}}-->

You removed the name of the college. Government First Grade College, Carstreet this college was renamed as Dr.P.Dayananda Pai - P.Sathisha Pai Government First Grade College, Carstreet this name officially ordered by Government of Karnataka. if the college was not named then the college generally called as Government First Grade College. Sir can you explain why did you removed? Ardo27 (talk) 14:38, 16 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230616143800","author":"Ardo27","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ardo27-20230616143800-Removal_of_Name_in_Article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230616144200-Ardo27-20230616143800"]}}-->

The lede usually uses the name of the article as titled ie. Government First Grade College, Carstreet not Dr.P.Dayananda Pai - P.Sathisha Pai Government First Grade College if you want it to change then you will need to move the article to the new title. Theroadislong (talk) 14:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230616144200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230616144200-Ardo27-20230616143800","replies":[]}}-->

I understand, I chose to do this because the case had such a drastic impact on our culture, given how it made domestic violence and the use of social media nuanced topics and drew such massive attention. It also popularized social media as a form of news consumption. However, I feel that if I had focused a bit more on that and less on the substantive case itself, I may have had something. You're free to edit the page or delete it, however you feel is appropriate, and I apologize for any misunderstanding. If you choose to delete it, I understand and I urge you to do so if you feel it necessary, but if you think that there is room for fixing it to differentiate the page from the current article on the case so that it only focuses on the impact of the case, I ask that you take that into consideration because it is still a case that is being talked about to this day, as Biden's youngest delegate Victor Shi referenced the trial when presenting his case for the criminal trial of Donald Trump to be televised to the nation. 47.40.238.193 (talk) 00:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230617000200","author":"47.40.238.193","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-47.40.238.193-20230617000200-Apologies.","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230617072700-47.40.238.193-20230617000200"]}}-->

As I said before it is pointless to continue editing this draft, you can edit the article we already have here Depp v. Heard, you can't create a new version of it via the WP:AFC process. Theroadislong (talk) 07:27, 17 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230617072700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230617072700-47.40.238.193-20230617000200","replies":[]}}-->

Hi @Theroadislong, thanks for the comment on the page I am making. Are you able to elaborate why it is not at all clear what makes Nate notable? Maxclayman (talk) 09:00, 18 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230618090000","author":"Maxclayman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maxclayman-20230618090000-Draft:Nate_Wilbourne","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230618093000-Maxclayman-20230618090000"]}}-->

Well how do you think they pass WP:GNG? Theroadislong (talk) 09:30, 18 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230618093000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230618093000-Maxclayman-20230618090000","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Theroadislong, you have added an "undisclosed payment" banner above our article about the research project "FeGiS" for road safety. No one has payed for it. For the neutral point of view, we have a lot of scientific references and papers in our reference list. Isn't this enough? Can we ask someone for help to make the article more than it should be? Thanks in advance for an answer. Sichere.Straßen (talk) 09:26, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619092600","author":"Sichere.Stra\u00dfen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sichere.Stra\u00dfen-20230619092600-FeGiS","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230619093200-Sichere.Stra\u00dfen-20230619092600"]}}-->

You clearly have a conflict of interest though and please not you call it "our article' it is NOT your article it is Wikipedia's article about your organisation. Theroadislong (talk) 09:32, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619093200","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230619093200-Sichere.Stra\u00dfen-20230619092600","replies":[]}}-->

@Theroadislong Thank you for your comment on my article. My article is not finished yet, and I would appreciate it if you have any other comments آنا مهر (talk) 09:43, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619094300","author":"\u0622\u0646\u0627 \u0645\u0647\u0631","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u0622\u0646\u0627_\u0645\u0647\u0631-20230619094300-Regarding_the_comment_you_left_on_my_article","replies":[]}}-->

Dear TheRoadislong, Please Help me with my draft for wikipedia, how can i improve it ShareenMantriKedia (talk) 11:14, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619111400","author":"ShareenMantriKedia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ShareenMantriKedia-20230619111400-Draft_Declined","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230619111700-ShareenMantriKedia-20230619111400"]}}-->

ShareenMantriKedia You will need to give me some clue as to what your draft is? Theroadislong (talk) 11:17, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619111700","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230619111700-ShareenMantriKedia-20230619111400","replies":["c-ShareenMantriKedia-20230619121000-Theroadislong-20230619111700","c-Theroadislong-20230619122600-Theroadislong-20230619111700"]}}-->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shareen_Mantri_Kedia ShareenMantriKedia (talk) 12:10, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619121000","author":"ShareenMantriKedia","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ShareenMantriKedia-20230619121000-Theroadislong-20230619111700","replies":[]}}-->

That draft was rejected, it will not be considered again. I suggest you find another topic to write about,one that is notable. Theroadislong (talk) 12:26, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619122600","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230619122600-Theroadislong-20230619111700","replies":["c-Zippybonzo-20230619163500-Theroadislong-20230619122600"]}}-->

You are aware that they are COI/UPE? Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619163500","author":"Zippybonzo","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Zippybonzo-20230619163500-Theroadislong-20230619122600","replies":[]}}-->

Dear @Theroadislong, thanks for the review!

I am trying to write a biography article on the movie producer, but I have problems with resources. Basically, iMDB is the industry standard for researching what these people have done in the past. Moreover, it is pretty tough creating a page for just one member of the crew on the movies - as most journals usually publish articles highlighting cast members, although sometimes there are more than 300 people working together on just one film. That's one of the reasons, actually the most important motivation for me to start creating articles for other members as well.

I deleted one of the resources, as I agree it's not that reliable, but not sure what can I do in order to make the article stronger as I spent a lot of time interviewing the person. Could that be somehow part of the reference?

Apologies for the longer question and thank you so much for your patience on this matter.

Here is the link towards the draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Philip_Waley?action=edit

Many thanks! Mili Radumilo (talk) 17:47, 19 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230619174700","author":"Mili Radumilo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mili_Radumilo-20230619174700-Help_Needed_-_Could_interviewing_a_person_be_legible_part_of_the_research?","replies":[]}}-->

See WP:IMDB and more generally reliable sources, interviews are NOT considered reliable and if you are interviewing them, then you have a conflict of interest which you will need to declare. Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable topic if those sources don't exist then we can't have an article.

I'm interested in your suggestion and have reviewed the article "street Photography"

But research shows me that urban photography is not the same as street photography

so it can be posted as a separate article

hope there's no problem with that

Good day Fahim Mostafa324 (talk) 11:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230621115900","author":"Fahim Mostafa324","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621115900-Regarding_my_sandbox_article:_Urban_Photography","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230621125500-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621115900"]}}-->

The problem with your draft is the lack of sources and the tone eg."an enthralling genre that seizes the liveliness and dynamism of city life" it will need a complete re-write referencing ONLY what reliable sources have reported. Theroadislong (talk) 12:55, 21 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230621125500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230621125500-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621115900","replies":["c-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621135000-Theroadislong-20230621125500"]}}-->

i'll try my best to make an acceptable rewrite Fahim Mostafa324 (talk) 13:50, 21 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230621135000","author":"Fahim Mostafa324","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621135000-Theroadislong-20230621125500","replies":["c-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230622113500-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621135000"]}}-->

They were repeated references. Now they're removed. Is there anything else?

kindly mention the problems together...it would be really helpful Fahim Mostafa324 (talk) 11:35, 22 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230622113500","author":"Fahim Mostafa324","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230622113500-Fahim_Mostafa324-20230621135000","replies":[]}}-->

Draft:Washington University of Science and Technology will qualify for deletion tomorrow, having been unedited for 6 months. Is there a process to tag it? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC) It is in the Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions, so I guess it happens automatically? Theroadislong (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230622200000","author":"Grand'mere Eugene","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grand'mere_Eugene-20230622200000-G13_request","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014 Grand'mere Eugene"}}-->

Hi, the Draft:Stephen Akindayomi wa rejected, kindly provide details on things to do Beeleafinme (talk) 20:27, 26 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230626202700","author":"Beeleafinme","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeleafinme-20230626202700-draft_rejected","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230626210500-Beeleafinme-20230626202700"]}}-->

I'm afraid there is nothing you can do, the draft was rejected which means it will not be considered again. Theroadislong (talk) 21:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230626210500","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230626210500-Beeleafinme-20230626202700","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello, Theroadislong. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Lucy Kayiwa".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230628185600","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20230628185600-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Lucy_Kayiwa","replies":[]}}-->

• RWRLI (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dr. Taryn Marie Stejskal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My new page was flagged as "unsourced trumpery". My page doesn't reference Trump, or anything related to trump.

RWRLI (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230628194400","author":"RWRLI","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RWRLI-20230628194400-Request_on_19:44:59,_28_June_2023_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_RWRLI","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230628195100-RWRLI-20230628194400"]}}-->

See the meaning of the word here [5] and I see it has been deleted as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Theroadislong (talk) 19:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230628195100","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230628195100-RWRLI-20230628194400","replies":[]}}-->

When I understood why this article was suspended, I added additional information, is it now under review? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elton_Heta Elton Heta (talk) 06:23, 30 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230630062300","author":"Elton Heta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Elton_Heta-20230630062300-Review_Article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230630064000-Elton_Heta-20230630062300"]}}-->

Draft:Elton Heta was rejected, it will not be considered again. Theroadislong (talk) 06:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230630064000","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230630064000-Elton_Heta-20230630062300","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, thank you for your comment on my article. I will happy, if you help me what should I do to get the draft article approved? I have made all necessary changes but it's still not accepted by you. Please tell me what is wrong? Anavean (talk) 13:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230629132500","author":"Anavean","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Anavean-20230629132500-Regarding_the_comment_you_left_on_Saribek_Sukiasyan_article","replies":["c-Theroadislong-20230629163900-Anavean-20230629132500"]}}-->

The sources simply do not show how they pass WP:GNG? Theroadislong (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230629163900","author":"Theroadislong","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Theroadislong-20230629163900-Anavean-20230629132500","replies":["c-Anavean-20230630070200-Theroadislong-20230629163900"]}}-->

Thank you, I have made some changes, please check it again. Hope it will be okay. Anavean (talk) 07:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230630070200","author":"Anavean","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Anavean-20230630070200-Theroadislong-20230629163900","replies":[]}}-->

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