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Hi, I'm Aozza42. I see that you reverted my edit of Nirmal Purja on 24 September and stated that the information I provided was inaccurate. The information was accurate but I acknowledge that there is some confusion about the margin of Nirmal Purja’s record for climbing the 8,000m peaks that needs further clarification.

All of the previous holders of this record (Reinhold Messner, Jerzy Kukuczka and Kim Chang-ho) had their records measured from the date they climbed their first 8,000er to the date they climbed their last one.

Kim Chang-ho climbed his first 8,000er, Nanga Parbat, in July 2005 and his last, Everest, in May 2013. His record was therefore 7 years and 10 months. Nirmal Purja climbed his first 8,000m peak, Dhaulagiri, in May 2014, and his last one, Shishapangma, in October 2019. His record is therefore 5 years and 5 months (correction from my edit). If we’re going to compare the records like we do in the first paragraph, we need to compare like with like. By climbing Dhaulagiri twice (and he also climbed Everest, Lhotse and Makalu prior to Project Possible) Nirmal Purja changed the way this record is measured. But if we measured it this way then Messner’s record would also be shortened, as he climbed Nanga Parbat twice. I don’t have enough information about Kim’s climbing record to calculate whether his record would also be shortened.

I don’t want to get into an edit war by reverting your reversion, as that would waste both our time, but can you suggest a mutually acceptable edit that would help to clarify this point? Perhaps we remove the clause “beating the previous record of just under 8 years” from the first paragraph and add a separate paragraph at the end of the section Project Possible 14/7 clarifying how this record is defined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aozza42 (talk • contribs) 08:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-11-03T08:10:00.000Z","author":"Aozza42","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aozza42-2021-11-03T08:10:00.000Z-November_2021","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello, I'm Fowler&fowler. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to K2 have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. It is not appropriate to delve into excessive details in the lead paragraph of a WP article. See WP:SS. You may add the two-decimal-place precision in a later section, but not to the lead. Rounding to whole numbers Is more appropriate there, especially in the instance of the sentence providing secondary information, i.e. the height of another peak. Per WP:BRD, please take to the talk page, Talk:K2, if you must, and reach consensus there for your version; but please do not engage in further edit-warring. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 16:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-06T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Fowler&fowler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fowler&fowler-2021-05-06T16:39:00.000Z-May_2021","replies":[]}}-->

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OK. I would argue that we are being precise by stating what the record is and explaining how it was calculated. This is not misleading at all – quite the contrary. I don’t think there is any value in adding a paragraph to explain how the record is calculated without stating what the record is (i.e. 5 years 5 months). If we’re not going to mention this, then I think it’s better not to refer to previous records at all. I have therefore just removed the phrase “beating the previous record by 8 years” from the first paragraph, as we discussed. Aozza42 (talk) 19:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-11-08T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Aozza42","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aozza42-2021-11-08T19:44:00.000Z-Nirmal_Purja","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello, I'm Lord Belbury. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Nirmal Purja, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. marriedbiography.com does not look like a reliable source. Lord Belbury (talk) 11:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-12-04T11:00:00.000Z","author":"Lord Belbury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lord_Belbury-2021-12-04T11:00:00.000Z-December_2021","replies":[]}}-->

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I have strated this many times now.

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MY TANKS INTRODUCED THING ISNT JUST FOR TANKS ITS ALSO FOR RAILWAY GUNS AND ANYTHING TRACKED THATS NOT A HALF TRACK. Simohayhafan (talk) 07:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220713073000","author":"Simohayhafan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Simohayhafan-20220713073000-I_have_strated_this_many_times_now.","replies":[]}}-->

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