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Good evening. In a recent deletion discussion, you questioned the applicability of WP:CORP to a mall since that guideline "is for an individual company". The thing to remember is that the mall is an individual company - it's the landlord that the other tenants rent space from. Certain malls may qualify for extra consideration based on the building (for example, if they have exceptional architecture) but other than that, a mall is the same as any other landlord. We deliberately wrote WP:CORP broadly to encompass as many kinds of organizations as possible. Hope that clarifies things a bit. If you'd like to discuss it more, you might want to drop a comment on WP:CORP's Talk page. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 01:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-02T01:10:00.000Z","author":"Rossami","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rossami-2008-06-02T01:10:00.000Z-Applicability_of_WP:CORP_to_a_mall","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there, I was reading through wp:Ani, and found that a complaint has been made about you, regarding adding NPOV tags to articles, please remember to discuss on the relevent talkpage when you place a tag on an article, it stops confusion like this and means we know what is NPOV in your opinion, if you need anymore information about this, feel free to drop me a line on my talkpage. Best regards, Chafford (talk) 09:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-06T09:46:00.000Z","author":"Chafford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chafford-2008-06-06T09:46:00.000Z-NPOV","replies":["c-Trebor-2008-06-06T10:13:00.000Z-Chafford-2008-06-06T09:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

In the case of Chris Crocker, adding a tag saying it needs additional citations borders on the disruptive given how many references there already are. If you think there are uncited statements, tag or remove them and then discuss on the talk page. If you feel the article is POV, you also need to give your reasoning on the talk page. Continuing to readd the tags without engaging in discussion will be seen as disruptive editing and you could end up getting blocked. Trebor (talk) 10:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-06T10:13:00.000Z","author":"Trebor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Trebor-2008-06-06T10:13:00.000Z-Chafford-2008-06-06T09:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What correlation is there between x amount of citations and uncited content? If i have 90 references for 15 out of 20 statements but none for the rest, the rest still need citations. There is an error in your logic. I have mentioned it on the talk page. I could give additional information if necessary, however I believe it it pretty obvious what needs to be done. Here's my line. In general the article's tone is very unencyclopedic, it is full of useless trivia, a lot of content is inserted repetitiously. its not a good read at all. basically. its a bad article. lets improve it. if it must exist.

Replied on my talk page. Trebor (talk) 00:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-07T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Trebor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trebor-2008-06-07T00:39:00.000Z-NPOV","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding your comments on Chris Crocker: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You've now accused me twice of being Crocker - please stop. You have some valid concerns and if you would dial down the accusations we can have some constructive dialog and it could help the article improve. Banjeboi 03:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-07T03:53:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-07T03:53:00.000Z-June_2008","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Talk:Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity). Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 04:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-07T04:00:00.000Z","author":"Bidgee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bidgee-2008-06-07T04:00:00.000Z-June_2008","replies":["c-Benjiboi-2008-06-08T20:47:00.000Z-Bidgee-2008-06-07T04:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Per your request, in this diff your entire message on my talk page is "are you chris crocker?" A day later on the talk page of the Crocker article you wrote in this diff - "Also you have very serious POV issues since you are Chris Crocker." Crocker, if you hadn't seen it in the article, gets near-daily death threats so I encourage you to cease from accusing anyone' of being Crocker as death threats are not to be taken lightly. Banjeboi 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-08T20:47:00.000Z-Bidgee-2008-06-07T04:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

The first is not an accusation, it is a question that you have yet to answer. I personally feel you are very likely the individual in question. Death threats which may or may not be real are not my problem and thinking someone is the individual question has nothing to do with the alleged death threats as I am not threatening anyone. The only person liable is the person making the threats. I doubt Crocker has ever received any serious death threats. I think people just find him annoying and like to say off the wall shit on youtube etc.Myheartinchile (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T22:07:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-09T22:07:00.000Z-June_2008","replies":["c-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:41:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-09T22:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Since you seem determined to push the point, no I'm not the subject of the article. And yes, wikipedia takes death threats and violating policies seriously so please stop. Banjeboi 23:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T23:41:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:41:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-09T22:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T00:38:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

Well there are no death threats on wikipedia so you have nothing to worry about. What policy am I violating exactly?Myheartinchile (talk) 00:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T00:38:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T00:38:00.000Z-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you please give me a break, I didnt refer to you as stupid I said I think the idea is stupid, That is my opinion and I have every right to express it--Yankees10 22:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Yankees10","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yankees10-2008-06-08T22:59:00.000Z-Stupid\"","replies":["c-Yankees10-2008-06-10T00:53:00.000Z-Yankees10-2008-06-08T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah I proably shouldn't have used that word, sorry--Yankees10 00:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T00:53:00.000Z","author":"Yankees10","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yankees10-2008-06-10T00:53:00.000Z-Yankees10-2008-06-08T22:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No problem, thanks--Yankees10 00:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T00:56:00.000Z","author":"Yankees10","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yankees10-2008-06-10T00:56:00.000Z-Stupid\"","replies":[]}}-->

Note: warning removed per[1]

Since you insist: [2]. There is absolutely no justification for this sort of accusation. Please read WP:BLP. Wikipedia talk pages are not fan forums for discussing rumors about people, and it particularly is not a place for you defame people. Gwernol 23:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z-Crocker","replies":["c-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:38:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","c-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:47:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","c-Gwernol-2008-06-10T01:11:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","c-Sarah-2008-06-10T01:28:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, YouTube is not a reliable source and even if it was, its an obvious fake/hoax. We do no defame people based on an unreliable hoax. Gwernol 23:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:38:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

FYI Crocker posted the original video then removed it for his own reasons, it showed him and his "brother" who he revealed to be his boyfriend at the time in a reliable source. it was indeed a hoax likely to shock people. The video itself isn't notable enough for inclusion but could be if it becomes so. Banjeboi 23:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:47:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

Two further points. First, read WP:BLP. You may not defame living people on Wikipedia. If you continue to put yourself and Wikipedia in legal jeopardy by doing this you will be blocked from editing. Second, it would be (at the least) courteous for you to notify me if you are going to question my actions at ANI or any other forum. Thanks, Gwernol 01:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T01:11:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-10T01:11:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Myheartinchile, please be more careful with the way you phrase comments on Wikipedia as the comment you posted to the Crocker talk page was a clear violation of the Biographies of Living People policy. I believe that you didn't intend to do anything wrong but the fact is that it was a violation of policy and the warning was therefore correct and you were lucky you weren't blocked. If you want to post a controversial topic like this in future, please provide a link to an article in a newspaper or other reliable source discussing the issue and remember that the WP:BLP policy applies to all pages on Wikipedia, not just the article itself. YouTube isn't a reliable source on Wikipedia; please read the guideline on reliable sources to see what kinds of sites are acceptable to use as sources. On Wikipedia, we are very strict with biographies of living people so please be more careful. Sarah 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T01:28:00.000Z","author":"Sarah","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sarah-2008-06-10T01:28:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-09T23:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gwernol-2008-06-10T02:15:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T01:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Myheartinchile, the administrator at WP:ANI did not tell you my warning was unjustified. He said you were permitted to remove the warning, which you are. Your addition to Talk:Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) clearly breached our policy of WP:BLP. If you continue this kind of disruptive editing you will be blocked. Please stop be much more careful in your editing, and please read what editors are actually saying. You should also read the clarification left at WP:ANI. Gwernol 02:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T02:15:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-10T02:15:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T01:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

respectfully, that's patent bull. the article in question uses youtube as a source dozens of times and the claims in question are represented in a video from the article's subject that he made and posted on youtube. it was the only source i had and its the only source for all the other videos besides "Leave Brittany Alone". I asked on the administrators reporting page and they said the warning was unwarranted. i don't think anything i claimed was controversial with regarads the to behavior and "art" that this individual is reported on in the context of this article or his life. see the video for yourself [3] if a video is not a reliable source for the subject at hand i don't know what is.Myheartinchile (talk) 02:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:05:00.000Z-warning","replies":["c-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please re-read the administrator's noticeboard Wikipedia:ANI#warning_removal - I was one of the admins who responded to you and none of us have said the warning was unwarranted. We have only said that you may remove the messages if you want to, which is something that all users on Wikipedia are allowed to do on their own talk page so long as they don't do it in a disruptive manner. No one on ANI has told you the warning was unwarranted. YouTube is not a reliable source, again, please read - reliable sources, verifiability and Biographies of Living People. Links to YouTube are used to link to the videos in question but they are not suitable to use as reliable sources for a blp and most certainly not for controversial claims like asserting that someone is in an incestuous relationship with their brother. If you want to make controversial claims, you need to find reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia and if you don't you are going to end up being the blocked. That's the bottom line, really. You can think it's "patent bull" if you wish but you've been warned by multiple admins now and if you continue to make such comments about living people without reliable sources (again, as defined by Wikipedia, not by your own opinion) then you will be blocked. Sarah 02:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z","author":"Sarah","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:48:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z","c-Sarah-2008-06-10T04:48:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

well how can i talk about it then, how can i ask about it, if i'm not allowed to.?Myheartinchile (talk) 02:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T02:48:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:48:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Benjiboi-2008-06-10T03:11:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Myheartinchile, as I've stated a few times now, it was the semantics and tone that got you into trouble. Your statement was that Crocker was is a incestuous relationship, instead you can simple link to the source (video in this case) and ask something like, this seems likes it's worth mentioning, anyone else agree or have seen it before? You could even state he seems to be in an incestuous relationship - is that true? It allows other editors to check the source and likely someone will respond with the correct info, in this case that it was a hoax. Banjeboi 03:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T03:11:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-10T03:11:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-06-10T02:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

As explained by others, you need to be careful with how you phrase comments on biographies. That question you asked was phrased as though it were a statement of fact and that is a large part of the problem. The other thing is that if it is something likely to be considered controversial or something that might be considered libelous, then you need to have a link to a source. Also, remember that article talk pages are for discussing the article only, not for discussing gossip so it's really not the place to go to to ask if something is true or not. Sarah 04:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T04:48:00.000Z","author":"Sarah","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sarah-2008-06-10T04:48:00.000Z-Sarah-2008-06-10T02:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. Please do not engage in edit warring. It's unhelpful, if you feel layout issues should be address you could ask for help or assistance rather than simply reverting something because you don't like how it looks. Per the Wikipedia manual of style infoboxes for articles do indeed go on top on justified to the right side just as it was. Banjeboi 23:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-09T23:44:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-09T23:44:00.000Z-Infoboxes","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

It is inappropriate to prod an article after it has undergone a deletion debate. If you wish to contest the result of the discussion the proper place to do so is at deletion review. Shereth 18:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T18:04:00.000Z","author":"Shereth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:04:00.000Z-March_19,_2008_anti-war_protest","replies":[],"displayName":"Sher"}}-->

Please clarify your question posed on my talk page. Also note that I will respond to questions placed on my talk page there, rather than here. Shereth 18:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z","author":"Shereth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z-March_19,_2008_anti-war_protest","replies":["c-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T19:22:00.000Z-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z","c-Ohconfucius-2008-06-11T12:42:00.000Z-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Sher"}}-->

Thank you very much for alerting me to the deletion review.--ragesoss (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Ragesoss","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T19:22:00.000Z-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T20:09:00.000Z-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

No. It would be canvassing if you were only notifying editors who shared your view on the matter, but there's nothing wrong with alerting participants in an earlier discussion about a related one.--ragesoss (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Ragesoss","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T20:09:00.000Z-Ragesoss-2008-06-10T19:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• From your comments on User:Shereth's talk page, it's getting to the point where you are ceasing to make reasoned arguments and starting to harrassing him/her. I feel that it is likely to become counter-productive in the DRV, and suggest that you laid off. Ohconfucius (talk) 12:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-11T12:42:00.000Z","author":"Ohconfucius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ohconfucius-2008-06-11T12:42:00.000Z-Shereth-2008-06-10T18:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have nominated Student lounge, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Student lounge (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-10T22:14:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-06-10T22:14:00.000Z-AfD_nomination_of_Student_lounge","replies":[],"displayName":"Ten\u00a0Pound\u00a0Hammer"}}-->

I added some references to Stan Neeleman. --Eastmain (talk) 02:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-12T02:17:00.000Z","author":"Eastmain","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eastmain-2008-06-12T02:17:00.000Z-Stan_Neeleman","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soda jerk: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Gwernol 10:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-12T10:42:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-12T10:42:00.000Z-June_2008_2","replies":["c-Gwernol-2008-06-12T19:39:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-12T10:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

On a text medium like Wikipedia, it is very hard to tell that a statement like that was meant as a joke. It looks exactly like a personal attack and would likely be read like that by most people reading it. I suggest you avoid such "jokes" in the future. Thanks, Gwernol 19:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-12T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Gwernol","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gwernol-2008-06-12T19:39:00.000Z-Gwernol-2008-06-12T10:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, you were probably unaware but renaming articles should generally not be done when they are in AfD or in this case deletion review. Once that process is over we can probably find a new name for the article. Banjeboi 22:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-13T22:41:00.000Z","author":"Benjiboi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Benjiboi-2008-06-13T22:41:00.000Z-Article_moves_(renaming)","replies":[],"displayName":"Banje"}}-->

Excellent template addition, though it needs to be cleaned up a bit. However, navigation templates like that go at the bottom of the articles, below any "see also", "references", "external links", etc. sections. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-14T03:06:00.000Z","author":"SchuminWeb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SchuminWeb-2008-06-14T03:06:00.000Z-War_on_terror_protest_template","replies":["c-SchuminWeb-2008-06-14T03:15:00.000Z-SchuminWeb-2008-06-14T03:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Another thing - I'm paring down the reach of the now-renamed {{Protests against the Iraq War}} template, so if you see a lot of rollbacks from me, don't worry about it. I'm doing some reworking. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-14T03:15:00.000Z","author":"SchuminWeb","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SchuminWeb-2008-06-14T03:15:00.000Z-SchuminWeb-2008-06-14T03:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

"...the article she links to only speaks of the methodology used in the protests and shows that it was a small minor one as there wasn't even a march." - I am a guy. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 19:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-17T19:21:00.000Z","author":"Nwwaew","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nwwaew-2008-06-17T19:21:00.000Z-FYI...","replies":[]}}-->

		The Citation Barnstar
		Good job on adding those references at International Surfing Day! I think those will really turn the tide at its AfD --Explodicle (talk) 13:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-26T13:55:00.000Z","author":"Explodicle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Explodicle-2008-06-26T13:55:00.000Z-Good_job!","replies":[]}}-->

KUDOS for your dedication in working to get the International Surfing Day article of AfD. Please send me a PM via the ISD MySpace if possible. Would like to send you an ISD package (skateboard, t-shirt, etc.) for your efforts. Otherwise email me at [email protected]. Matty3121 (talk) 07:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-02T07:15:00.000Z","author":"Matty3121","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Matty3121-2008-07-02T07:15:00.000Z-Good_job!","replies":[]}}-->

It is highly inappropriate for an editor to initiate a non-admin closure for an article with which he/she has a vested editing interest. It taints the process. Simply suggest a "speedy keep" or let the AfD run its course. Rklawton (talk) 00:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-27T00:36:00.000Z","author":"Rklawton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rklawton-2008-06-27T00:36:00.000Z-International_Surfing_Day","replies":[]}}-->

Please also take a moment to review what Wikipedia holds forth as a reliable source. This will help you both with article writing and defence. Rklawton (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-27T01:08:00.000Z","author":"Rklawton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rklawton-2008-06-27T01:08:00.000Z-International_Surfing_Day","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, can you clarify why you think Brimley Ball shouldn't be deleted? Please keep in mind that deletion discussions aren't head counts, so you should give an argument. Thanks --AW (talk) 20:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-01T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Awiseman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Awiseman-2008-07-01T20:32:00.000Z-Brimley_Ball","replies":["c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-01T22:33:00.000Z-Awiseman-2008-07-01T20:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"AW"}}-->

like i said, its notable.Myheartinchile (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-01T22:33:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-01T22:33:00.000Z-Awiseman-2008-07-01T20:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Awiseman-2008-07-02T15:18:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-01T22:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

But why? --AW (talk) 15:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-02T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Awiseman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Awiseman-2008-07-02T15:18:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-01T22:33:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"AW"}}-->

Please visit the International Surfing Day DYK nomination to address some concerns raised. Thanks. Bebestbe (talk) 22:59, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-01T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Bebestbe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bebestbe-2008-07-01T22:59:00.000Z-International_Surfing_Day_DYK","replies":[]}}-->

On 2 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article International Surfing Day, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-02T14:50:00.000Z","author":"BorgQueen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BorgQueen-2008-07-02T14:50:00.000Z-International_Surfing_Day_2","replies":[]}}-->

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Myheartinchile for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. ⇔ ∫Æ_S dt @ 21:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-03T21:41:00.000Z","author":"AubreyEllenShomo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AubreyEllenShomo-2008-07-03T21:41:00.000Z-Sockpuppetry_case","replies":["c-AubreyEllenShomo-2008-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-AubreyEllenShomo-2008-07-03T21:41:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u222b\u00c6S"}}-->

• While this was a good faith report on my part, given the existence of an alternate possible explanation for the apparent sockpuppetry, and the fact that both explanations seem equally likely, I concede there is no proof even by a burden of the preponderance of the evidence (requiring sockpuppetry to be more likely than not) that this is a case of sockpuppetry. I will thus assume good faith and have withdrawn the report. My apologies. ⇔ ∫Æ_S dt @ 22:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-07T22:49:00.000Z","author":"AubreyEllenShomo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AubreyEllenShomo-2008-07-07T22:49:00.000Z-AubreyEllenShomo-2008-07-03T21:41:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u222b\u00c6S"}}-->

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What's up with this "sock puppetry" thing? what's going on? How will it proceed?Myheartinchile (talk) 04:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-07T04:27:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T04:27:00.000Z-help_me","replies":["c-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T07:53:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T04:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

It means someone has suspected you of possessing more than one accounts on Wikipedia and using them abusively, i.e. to aid you in deciding consensus ——RyanLupin • (talk) 07:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-07T07:53:00.000Z","author":"RyanLupin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T07:53:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T04:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T08:09:00.000Z-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T07:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

what can i do?Myheartinchile (talk) 08:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-07T08:09:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T08:09:00.000Z-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T07:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T08:13:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T08:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

The only thing you can do is read through this ——RyanLupin • (talk) 08:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-07T08:13:00.000Z","author":"RyanLupin","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-RyanLupin-2008-07-07T08:13:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-07T08:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

See Template talk:Muni for my full rationale. I will agree to stop reverting if you start discussing on the talk page instead of in edit summaries. —Kurykh 17:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z-Template:Muni","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T22:10:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z","c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T22:16:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just curious, but what stations do you plan to have articles about? All of the platform stops, or...? (not saying that creating those articles is wrong...) —Kurykh 22:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T22:10:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T22:10:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It's because that while there is a tendency to create articles for platform stops, there is an aversion to create articles for regular stops (those on the J, K, L, M, and N, with exceptions). Ok. Oh, and btw, you might want to fix your copy-and-pastes; the addresses are different for each article. And it's spelled "Brannan." —Kurykh 22:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T22:16:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-08T17:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No, no, I'm cool, but I live too far from the beach And my house has no air conditioning. =( —Kurykh 22:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-08T22:24:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-08T22:24:00.000Z-Template:Muni","replies":[]}}-->

Two notes: the signage of the UCSF Mission Bay station says "Gene Friend Way", as do all Muni references, and Williams station has only "Williams" and not "Van Dyke" or any inclusion of that phrase in any Muni reference. —Kurykh 06:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T06:59:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T06:59:00.000Z-T_Third_Street_stations","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:05:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T06:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

UCSF Mission Bay: change it back to the original Gene Friend Way Station, then use "Lane" in address.

Williams: I think change it back, but add Van Dyke to the address. Following signage is the best route, I think. —Kurykh 07:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T07:05:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:05:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T06:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:09:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

what about the muni map or the official name. i think we should include van dyke for practicality since all the other stations show the double intersections dual namings.

That's because they actually do have both names on the signs. For example, the Oakdale/Palou station actually has signs that say "Oakdale/Palou". —Kurykh 07:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T07:09:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:09:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

About the T line template: don't add "Visitacion Valley" in, or else it screws up the template for Arleta. It's supposed to have "terminus" right underneath "Sunnydale", but only if the template is in a certain format. —Kurykh 07:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T07:12:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:12:00.000Z-T_Third_Street_stations","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T16:23:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

Um, the trains actually only say either "Sunnydale & Bayshore" (rolling signs) or just "Sunnydale" (digital signs), but never "Visitacion Valley" in whatever form. —Kurykh 16:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T16:23:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-10T07:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The article title, infobox title, and the first mention in the article body are supposed to have the full name of the station (minus "station"), such as "Folsom and The Embarcadero", etc. The contraction, "Folsom", can be used in the rest of the article. That's why I keep changing them back. —Kurykh 00:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T00:24:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:24:00.000Z-T_Third_Street_stations","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:38:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

There's being aesthetically pleasing, and there's being informative. The latter is predominant. On Wikipedia, at least. —Kurykh 00:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T00:38:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:38:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T01:32:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Before you get all angry at me (I think that was unintended), here are my policy citations: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)#Design and usage for infoboxes, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings and sections. —Kurykh 01:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T01:32:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T01:32:00.000Z-Kurykh-2008-07-12T00:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

From Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)#Design and usage:

The top text line should be bold and contain the full (official) name of the item. This does not need to match the article's Wikipedia title. It should not contain a link. Avoid {{{PAGENAME}}} as pages may be moved for disambiguation.

From Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings and sections:

If possible, an article title is the subject of the first sentence of the article...

From Wikipedia:WikiProject Stations:

The lead paragraph shall include the name of the station as it appears on the system map, and not a short-hand name, but those can and should be mentioned later.

The article title is taken to conform with the other articles (e.g. Montgomery, where on Wikipedia it is denoted as "Montgomery Street") —Kurykh 02:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T02:47:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T02:47:00.000Z-T_Third_Street_stations","replies":[]}}-->

meh fuck it i don't care that strongly it just looks ugly. so uh hey would you check out the Hercules (Amtrak station) i just created? i'm working on the new stations of the capitol corridor line now.Myheartinchile (talk) 03:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T03:00:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-12T03:00:00.000Z-T_Third_Street_stations","replies":["c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T03:20:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-12T03:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Uh, the Capital Corridor already has all of its articles. —Kurykh 03:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T03:20:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-12T03:20:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-12T03:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Next time when you edit templates, please remember to check if you're breaking them. For example, on Template:S Castro Shuttle, you inadvertently created a gaping hole on the line of images with the inclusion of the end of the T line (which wasn't necessary anyway). There's detail, but workability of the templates come first. They do have limitations, and can't accommodate all details. —Kurykh 17:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T17:03:00.000Z","author":"Kurykh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurykh-2008-07-10T17:03:00.000Z-Templates","replies":[]}}-->

Um, I think you gave the wrong AfD nomination for Melora Creager. They're not a cello player. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-12T02:29:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-07-12T02:29:00.000Z-Melora_Creager","replies":[],"displayName":"Ten\u00a0Pound\u00a0Hammer"}}-->

While you have done great job expanding the article, the ref provided doesn't mention that being the first direct rail-to-ferry connection on the bay. If you can't find a ref for that, you may want to revise your hook. Thingg^⊕⊗ 14:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-17T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Thingg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thingg-2008-07-17T14:16:00.000Z-Re:_Your_DYK_nom","replies":["c-Thingg-2008-07-18T23:35:00.000Z-Thingg-2008-07-17T14:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah, that's verifiable. :) Hook verified. Thingg^⊕⊗ 23:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T23:35:00.000Z","author":"Thingg","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thingg-2008-07-18T23:35:00.000Z-Thingg-2008-07-17T14:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Template:STD/STI worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you.David Ruben ^Talk 23:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-18T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Davidruben","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davidruben-2008-07-18T23:23:00.000Z-creating_red_links","replies":[],"displayName":"David Ruben"}}-->

On 19 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hercules station, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T02:35:00.000Z","author":"Gatoclass","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gatoclass-2008-07-19T02:35:00.000Z-DYK","replies":[]}}-->

On most of those maps there is a link to the guidelines, Wikipedia:Route diagram template, but it doesn't say much, and there's also the pictograms catalog, Wikipedia:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms. Sorry if I say anything you knew already. fiddling around with | lines is usually the best way to get good aesthetics. Tlantanu (talk) 03:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T03:29:00.000Z","author":"Tlantanu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tlantanu-2008-07-19T03:29:00.000Z-Route_map_templates","replies":[]}}-->
I think the integral part of route ferry icon means that everyone leaves the train and goes onto the ferry, or the train itself goes onto the ferry. the icon is for connecting ferries. One of the things I notice was that the icons didn't match up when there were 2 icons on the same row. try to start the line with {{BS3|| instead of {{BS2| (note the number of lines) this will make the symbols match up. keep up the edits. Tlantanu (talk) 16:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Tlantanu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tlantanu-2008-07-19T16:49:00.000Z-Route_map_templates","replies":[]}}-->

{{help}} I need help with Birds Landing, California.^MY♥_INchile 00:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-21T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-21T00:10:00.000Z-help","replies":["c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-21T00:44:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-21T00:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

never mind.^MY♥_INchile 00:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-21T00:44:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-07-21T00:44:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-07-21T00:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Tagging an article like you did in Salesian High School (Richmond, California) making it unreadbale can also be construed as vandalism. I'm going to revert your chnages again. Take it to the talk page. Philly jawn (talk) 23:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-21T23:07:00.000Z","author":"Philly jawn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Philly_jawn-2008-07-21T23:07:00.000Z-Speaking_of_vandlaism","replies":[]}}-->

Because you misspelled the title -- it is now at Template:Altamont Commuter Express (you typed "Tamplate"). NawlinWiki (talk) 00:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-23T00:54:00.000Z","author":"NawlinWiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2008-07-23T00:54:00.000Z-Altamont","replies":[]}}-->

On 23 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Precita Eyes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-23T21:14:00.000Z","author":"PeterSymonds","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PeterSymonds-2008-07-23T21:14:00.000Z-Precita_Eyes_DYK","replies":["c-PeterSymonds-2008-07-23T21:32:00.000Z-PeterSymonds-2008-07-23T21:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

It was reviewed by a few other DYK regulars, and found to be a derivative work and therefore non-free (see the comment by Daniel Case on my talk page). Wikipedia does not allow non-free images on the Main Page, so the hooks were reorganised. Hope this helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-23T21:32:00.000Z","author":"PeterSymonds","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PeterSymonds-2008-07-23T21:32:00.000Z-PeterSymonds-2008-07-23T21:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 26 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Birds Landing, California, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 07:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-26T07:22:00.000Z","author":"Bedford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bedford-2008-07-26T07:22:00.000Z-July_26_DYK","replies":[]}}-->

Please don't use the + and - symbols at afd -- there are other places where they are used, but not here. just bold face is clear enough. It's clearer for us admins if everyone contributes in the usual way. DGG (talk) 01:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-01T01:14:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DGG-2008-08-01T01:14:00.000Z-at_afd","replies":[]}}-->

Re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spencer Roloson Winery, please don't emphasize your comments over others by inserting graphics. Just use bullet points like everyone else.

The discussion resulted in deleting them as G4, [4] But the discussion did also explain why yu reasonably used then--they apparently are used in esWP.DGG (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-01T08:09:00.000Z","author":"DGG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DGG-2008-08-01T08:09:00.000Z-AfD_formatting","replies":[]}}-->

Also, please read the AfD proposal carefully and reconsider your position. This article is about a small start-up, having none of the qualities you mention in your comment. ~Amatulić (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-01T03:23:00.000Z","author":"Amatulic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Amatulic-2008-08-01T03:23:00.000Z-AfD_formatting","replies":[],"displayName":"Amatuli\u0107"}}-->

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Plase stop posting the picture of the "Maxterbation Guy" on every page you can find...That picture is very low quality and not every article needs a picture. Many articles already have many high quality pictures and many more high quality pictures on that same topic that are in the Wikimedia Commons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spikydan1 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-01T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Spikydan1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spikydan1-2008-08-01T17:36:00.000Z-\"Maxterbation_Guy\"","replies":[]}}-->

Your AfD nomination has me puzzled. How does this "substantiate" any other article on Wikipedia? This book is part of the notable "alphabet" series from Sue Grafton, who is without a doubt a notable author. There're two valid sources in the article already, and all of her other "alphabet" books have a page, so why did you single this one out? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T00:07:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:07:00.000Z-\"R\"_Is_for_Ricochet","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:20:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

• Okay. I still think it calls for a speedy close, as I can't imagine any of her alphabet books being non-notable. The series as a whole has received a ton of publicity, and some of the pages are fairly detailed, so I would imagine that you could write long articles on every book in the series. I'm pretty sure all of these have nicked the Best Sellers list at some point. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T00:20:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:20:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:32:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

• That's okay. Just keep in mind that if the author is notable, their works are almost certainly notable as well. A merge of her books would be out of the question — there're 20 of them, so it would make for one huge article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T00:32:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:32:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:54:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

• It's not my logic, it's just common outcomes. All of Grafton's novels have sold about equally well, so they're on pretty much even footing though their articles seem to be varied. If you think the articles need improvement, I'd say tag them with {{expand}}. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T00:54:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:54:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-03T00:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

Thank you for the lovely message. I am glad you enjoyed my observations -- I don't insult people on Wikipedia (not intentionally, at least) and I try to give praise where it is due. And I have seen and enjoyed your input to the project, so I am glad that I could pay tribute to your offerings. I love the Bay Area -- I was in San Francisco last month and will be back there in October (it is my favourite U.S. city). Please feel free to stay in touch. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z-Cogent_commentary","replies":["c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:38:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z","c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:14:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

I remember crossing paths with you in some AfD discussions (the name rings a bell, since I knew some people who emigrated to Chile and that is why I recalled you). I've also seen your DYK honours, which are impressive. I go to the Bay Area for a combination of business and pleasure. I usually like to ramble about and see where my feet take me (no agenda travel). Ecoleetage (talk) 03:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-04T03:38:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:38:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T13:02:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is a fine-looking article. I might suggest combining the two political sections and perhaps moving the demographics section further up the piece. I saw a couple of places where copy editing might help, but I would only swing me axe with your permission (you clearly put a lot of work into this and I don't want to stick my thumbprints in without your OK). Ecoleetage (talk) 13:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-04T13:02:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T13:02:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It seemed like political propaganda and not an encyclopedia article. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-08T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:14:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-04T03:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:25:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have to revisit the article, but I cannot do it know since I need to hit the laundromat (cleaning my clothing takes priority over cleaning up articles). Will return later. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-08T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:25:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-08T21:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I need help with the references at St. Mary's College High School, i can't seem to find the problem but it's all messed up and not showing the name of one of the athletes, a broken link perhaps?^MY♥_INchile 17:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-08T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-08-08T17:27:00.000Z-help_2","replies":["c-JGXenite-2008-08-08T17:29:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-08T17:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've fixed it. You had missed out the ending brace of the ref. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 17:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-08T17:29:00.000Z","author":"JGXenite","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JGXenite-2008-08-08T17:29:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-08T17:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"[Jam]"}}-->

It's definitely not a stub. To quote WP:STUB:

A stub is an article containing only a few sentences of text which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information. Sizable articles are usually not considered stubs, even if they lack wikification or copy editing. With these articles, a cleanup template is usually added instead of a stub template.

Bruener Marsh may still need expanding to give more information, and it may need wikification or other cleanup, but it is considerably longer than anything that could be considered a stub. Grutness...wha? 02:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-09T02:55:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2008-08-09T02:55:00.000Z-Re:Bruener_Marsh","replies":[]}}-->

Yeah, I'd say bopth of those are still stubs. Keep up the good editing work - looks like you've been making good starts on several articles :) Grutness...wha? 03:54, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-09T03:54:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grutness-2008-08-09T03:54:00.000Z-wet_wipe_markers","replies":[]}}-->

At the moment it does read a bit like something you'd find oin the company's own website (which makes sense, seeing as that's where the link's to). To make it seem less advertisement like, consider the following things:

• is it a proproetary brand name? If so, say so - if not, list some of the other companies making it
• what is the history of the product? Who invented it and/or when was it first marketed?
• how does it achieve this paste-like medium - is it a mix of chalk and ink, or something different?

If you can find out those things (or even just one or two of them) and add the info to the article, it might make the article a bit longer and less like an ad. Hope that helps, Grutness...wha? 04:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-09T04:20:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grutness-2008-08-09T04:20:00.000Z-wet_wipe_markers","replies":["c-Grutness-2008-08-11T02:16:00.000Z-Grutness-2008-08-09T04:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

A lot better now - it doesn't sound biased towards one company's product, and give more information about what they're made of. Still a stub and in need of further work, but a lot better than it was when you first started it. Good work :) Grutness...wha? 02:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-11T02:16:00.000Z","author":"Grutness","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grutness-2008-08-11T02:16:00.000Z-Grutness-2008-08-09T04:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I got your back in that one. Good luck in winning that bad faith AfD. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-11T01:31:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-11T01:31:00.000Z-Breuner_Airfield_AfD.","replies":["c-Ikluft-2008-08-11T15:55:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-11T01:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Bad faith? Is that what he told you? Go look at the edit histories for yourself. The Breuner Airfield page had insufficient refs to stand on its own from the start. I tried to help at first but couldn't find other independent refs. I put a notability tag on the page, but he just removed it. I gave up helping when User:Myheartinchile started an edit war over the category and list for Bay Area airports, continuously acting contrary to the criteria already listed on the page. He even started making edits to the criteria without any dialog on the talk page. Do you really have sympathy for that behavior? I had no alternative but to bring it to the attention of admins, because repeating these reverts would run against the three-revert rule. It was biting a hand that was trying to feed him (or more directly, driving away and attacking a volunteer who was trying to help.) One admin gave the assistance I requested by reverting the changes to the airport list & category. Another admin reviewed Breuner Airfield and determined it didn't have refs to justify notability and gave it an AfD nom - he said it would have qualified for speedy delete but did a prod and AfD to give the author the benefit of the doubt. If he claims this is bad faith, it's just sour grapes because things haven't gone the way he wanted - he needs to review his own actions first and not forget to assume good faith about others. Brushing aside established conventions predictably results in other editors acting to restore them. Ikluft (talk) 15:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-11T15:55:00.000Z","author":"Ikluft","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ikluft-2008-08-11T15:55:00.000Z-Ecoleetage-2008-08-11T01:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

For my Chilean pal: Isn't life fun? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 23:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-11T23:24:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-11T23:24:00.000Z-Breuner_Airfield_AfD.","replies":[]}}-->

Yup. Good job on that. --I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 18:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-11T18:03:00.000Z","author":"Editorofthewiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Editorofthewiki-2008-08-11T18:03:00.000Z-Re:Hakha-Chin_language","replies":[],"displayName":"of"}}-->

 Done Great job. Thingg^⊕⊗ 01:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T01:43:00.000Z","author":"Thingg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thingg-2008-08-12T01:43:00.000Z-Re:_Breuner_Marsh","replies":[]}}-->

Very nice. An excellent job. I trust you will appreciate the additional copyedits. It would be nice if someone could expand the article and include, for example: what were the main products (sofas? beds? tables? chairs?); why was the store sold in the 1970s? what caused it to go out of business? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-19T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Truthanado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Truthanado-2008-08-19T23:38:00.000Z-Re:_Breuner_Marsh","replies":[]}}-->

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I would like to recreate the page Hot carl as a redirect to Coprophilia.^MY♥_INchile 23:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T23:04:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:04:00.000Z-Hot_Carl_help","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:06:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

• There's nothing stopping you. Do it if you want. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T23:06:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:06:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:04:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

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yes there is, its been blocked from re-creation dude.^MY♥_INchile 23:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T23:10:00.000Z","author":"Myheartinchile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:10:00.000Z-Hot_Carl_help","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:16:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Hot Carl doeesn't seem to be protected although it has been deleted a lot. I'll just go ahead and make the redirect for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T23:16:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:16:00.000Z-Myheartinchile-2008-08-12T23:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:26:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

• I'm not even close to being an admin, actually. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-12T23:26:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:26:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-13T00:28:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

• Hot carl with a lowercase C is locked. The one I made was with an uppercase C. Also, I did just run for RfA, but it crashed and burned so I pulled it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-13T00:28:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-13T00:28:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2008-08-12T23:26:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Ten Pound Hammer"}}-->

Thanks for your expression of interest in Wikipedia Prisons, otherwise known as Wikiproject Correction and Detention Facilities. Seven people have now indicated here that they would like to help out so I am now assuming that this project will actually happen. I suppose we need to take care of a few preliminaries: getting through the proposal stage, and creating a wikiproject page, page tag, and maybe an infobox. Thanks again for your interest. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 00:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-14T00:56:00.000Z","author":"Cdogsimmons","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cdogsimmons-2008-08-14T00:56:00.000Z-Wikiproject_Correction_and_Detention_Facilities","replies":[]}}-->

Please stop forum shopping to try to get Breuner Airfield into lists and categories of airports. Proof by assertion is not an acceptable method of finding consensus on Wikipedia. I've observed you posting the same or similar suggestions in Talk:Breuner Airfield, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breuner Airfield, Talk:List of airports in the San Francisco Bay Area, Category talk:Airports in the San Francisco Bay Area, Category talk:Airports in the United States by state , Category talk:Airports in California and Talk:List of private-use airports in California. Yes, you've made it clear that you want to call Breuner Airfield an airport. You're entitled to your opinion. You have received and ignored answers from myself and other editors (some of whom are admins who responded when I asked for help dealing with this situation) saying that calling Breuner Airfield an airport is inappropriate, absurd and nonsense, among other responses. The Third Opinion that you solicited determined that "If it's in the US and the FAA doesn't call it an airport, it's not an airport." I have provided links to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports#Creation_Checklists showing that the WikiProject Airports uses the standard of starting with a ICAO, IATA and/or FAA airport code as the first step in creating any airport article - and the consensus there is that even just having an airport code alone is not enough to make an airport notable. Breuner Airfield is a model airplane field and it does not have any airport registration at all. Please accept the feedback of the Wikipedia community that it is inappropriate to pursue calling Breuner Airfield an airport. Please cease and desist from further edits and arguments to add it to lists of airports or enter it into any airport categories. Ikluft (talk) 00:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-15T00:08:00.000Z","author":"Ikluft","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ikluft-2008-08-15T00:08:00.000Z-Forum-shopping_for_miscategorizing_Breuner_Airfield_as_an_airport","replies":[]}}-->

As you can see, this project has now taken off. Thanks for your support!--Cdogsimmons (talk) 01:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-16T01:28:00.000Z","author":"Cdogsimmons","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cdogsimmons-2008-08-16T01:28:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Correction_and_Detention_Facilities_Update","replies":[]}}-->

On 17 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hakha-Chin language, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 00:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T00:24:00.000Z","author":"PeterSymonds","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PeterSymonds-2008-08-17T00:24:00.000Z-Hakha-Chin_language","replies":["c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-17T12:05:00.000Z-PeterSymonds-2008-08-17T00:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey, congrats on this! Good show! Also, I am glad to see the Breneur Airfield merged into that other article -- at least the subject is still on the site. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-17T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Ecoleetage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ecoleetage-2008-08-17T12:05:00.000Z-PeterSymonds-2008-08-17T00:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Myheartinchile!

I'm a little worried about the category you created: Category:LGBT topics in the San Francisco Bay Area. There are no other categories like this, so you're "breaking new ground" by creating it. Not necessarily a bad thing, just one that should be done thoughtfully :)

I've started a discussion on the category here and invite you to participate. And to join the WikiProject, if you wish :) Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-18T19:24:00.000Z","author":"SatyrTN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SatyrTN-2008-08-18T19:24:00.000Z-LGBT_culture","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Myheartinchile, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-19T00:09:00.000Z","author":"SatyrTN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SatyrTN-2008-08-19T00:09:00.000Z-LGBT_culture","replies":[]}}-->

You're right, I should have suggested, but it's all good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silversword55 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-23T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Silversword55","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Silversword55-2008-08-23T01:35:00.000Z-Rich_Harden","replies":[]}}-->

I am pleased to announce that the assessment function is now in operation!--Cdogsimmons (talk) 05:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-24T05:05:00.000Z","author":"Cdogsimmons","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cdogsimmons-2008-08-24T05:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Correction_and_Detention_Facilities_update_2","replies":[]}}-->

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XVII: November 12, 2008 Wake up WP:LGBT! It's time to kick in gear and get some things done! Project News Wake up! I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at Featured Article Candidates. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.” Judith Warner from The New York Times It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an extraordinary president in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned same sex marriage. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves. The power of Wikipedia and California Proposition 8 (2008) Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Wikipedia played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding 467,000 people read it. I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate. What can we do? How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Wikipedia is for. This project is overwhelming with 8,576 articles in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on. Current political events LGBT Media and Literature LGBT History Sex and sexuality Articles about political issues in the US and around the world that have been especially relevant within the past 5 years Depictions of LGBT people and issues on television, film, newspapers, magazines Topics about gay rights activism and the opposition to it Articles relating to sex and sexuality Florida Amendment 2 (2008), California Proposition 8 (2008), E.O. Green School shooting, etc. The Advocate, Curve (magazine), Washington Blade, Milk (film), Brokeback Mountain, etc. Moral Majority, ACT UP, Queer Nation, Mattachine Society, Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Mathew Shepard, etc. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, sexual and gender expression, etc. There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles. Tony Perkins (irony) from the conservative Family Research Council was heartened by the recent passages of gay marriage bans. The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict. But WP:LGBT is not a very active project All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion. More things we can do Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued. Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb. Bring back the monthly collaboration project. Participate in LGBT Peer reviews. Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA. Keep our project page and open tasks template updated. Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too! Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors. Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about. Proposal: Put Importance Levels on articles If this was decided long before I was a member, maybe it's time to revisit it. Other WikiProjects, such as WP:Novels determine that some subjects have an importance category: Top, High, Mid, Low, or None (undetermined). If we decide that our most core articles, it might help to organize which articles to address first. Top importance, for example, would be Gay, Homosexual, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Sappho, Oscar Wilde, Stonewall riots, for example. High importance would be Homosexuality and psychology, Harvey Milk, Mattachine Society, Harry Hay, or Daughters of Bilitis, and so on. This can be a matter of discussion, or perhaps we could have someone in charge of determining these levels for all the articles we have tagged. So, like Slim Whitman, "I'm Calling You" The editors I have admired in the past, who have done great things alone, and who I think can help us all do extraordinary things now: SatyrTN, Dev920, Aleta, Becksguy, Otto4711, BelovedFreak, Benjiboi, Bookkeeper of the Occult, Queerudite, FisherQueen (I will marry you), PaulB, APK, ZigZig20s, AllStarEcho (I know you're out there), Raystorm, and my very own copy editor, Dank55. These are the editors I've seen working (and I know I'm forgetting a few). There's more of you out there I haven't seen. Some of you are new. We need all of you. Please help. Miami, January 18, 1977 after the gay rights ordinance was passed: While Bryant and the others were creating the beginnings of the repeal effort, (gay activists) Basker, Campbell, Kunst, and the other (gay rights) ordinance supporters congratulated themselves on their success and then quickly disbanded... There was no organized recognition or celebration of the victory. As one activist remembered, "We just went home." They had little idea of the battle that was before them. - Fred Fejes in Gay Rights and Moral Panic, 2008 Don't go home yet, please. --Moni3 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-24T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Moni3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moni3-2008-07-24T00:10:00.000Z-WikiProject_LGBT_studies_Newsletter","replies":[]}}--> To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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Ecoleetage (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Please changing your category to Category:San Francisco 49ers fans. Thank You. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-19T20:44:00.000Z","author":"WeezleBeezle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WeezleBeezle-2009-03-19T20:44:00.000Z-49ers","replies":[]}}-->

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Visconti Triplets, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

no authentic sources supporting the fairly unusual claim of the article, only sourced information comes from a porn marketing site that fails WP:RS. Surprisingly low number of Google hits, given the expected pornspam.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 19:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-11T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Hullaballoo Wolfowitz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz-2009-04-11T19:58:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Visconti_Triplets","replies":[]}}-->

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter: Special Pride 2009 Booty call edition

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XVIII: June 24, 2009 Yo, happy Pride y'all - are you ready for your close-up? Stonewall riots How do you change the world? You can start by writing an incredible article for the world's encyclopedia. Moni3 kicks it old school again with Stonewall riots - a series of spontaneous, violent demonstrations against a police raid that took place in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969 at the Stonewall Inn. [...] [T]hey have become the defining event that marked the start of the gay rights movement in the United States and around the world. It's a featured article hitting the mainpage this Sunday to mark the 40th anniversary of the events. So first off, wow! Clever and cool. Moni3 has been recently named hottest delegate to Obama's bookclub but that may not be official yet. (Shhh!) Otto4711 mentioned that gee we really should swamp the DYK section with LGBT-related articles for use on the 28th as well. We have eight or so in the holding area and if you push yourself to get an article together you might be able to get in on the fun. Do this now! The official rules for DYKs can be found here. Once you have expanded an article 5-fold or created an article with at least 1,500 characters of prose, place your DYK thread here. Use this handy tool to count your 1,500 characters. As a suggestion, when you add your potential hook, include the character count and a link to the source(s) that confirm the hook. These will be confirmed anyway but may help. Trans quotes needed for Portal:Transgender The layout for the individual quotes is here (just copy/paste into one of the red links on Portal:Transgender/Random quote). Then this counter has to be upped to match the new # of total quotes (not counting quote zero). Obama proclamation On June 1, President Barack Obama declared June 2009 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month, citing the riots as a reason to "commit to achieving equal justice under law for LGBT Americans". Excerpts at the bottom. F*ck me I'm famous I was interviewed by Wikipedia Signpost, the weekly in-house newsletter, for the WikiProject report. The Signpost has nearly 1,000 Wikipedian subscribers and arguably many of those folks actually read it. It came about rather quickly and my worst fears - that it was an elaborate hoax by a troll - were apparently unfounded. I hope y'all feel I did fine by the project, I did my best to avoid the phrase "man-humping, cock-sucking, doggy-style loving queer" but otherwise did ok. Free image appeal A friendly reminder to consider taking photos while you're out and about at various Dyke marches and Pride parades. Consider donating them to the world at Wikicommons. I'm sooo totally over having to deal with lovely images being deleted and argued about. If they are just free they are then also freely usable worldwide. And no, they don't need photos of your cha-cha or hoo-hoo-dilly. Chaz Bono Sonny and Cher's daughter was a famous lesbian and now he's a famous transman, possibly the most famous in the world. This also serves as a friendly reminder that we recently updated Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Guidelines - it's not perfect but should help inform on those gnip-gnop battles that do seem to drag on, and not in the good way. R U Popular? Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Popular pages is a new handy place to see which LGBT-tagged pages are the most popular in any given month. Article alerts As part of the redecorating at our talkpage, the article alerts and keyword search alerts are handily located at the top of the page. Always fascinating to see what's up. All help appreciated on those. Glambert Adam Lambert is soooo gay - surprised? Neither is anyone else. Nuff said. David Ogden Stiers was outed but apparently he wasn't terribly in either. Community Quilt reminder Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Quilt - update it and add yourself! Our own little IRC home The LGBT studies project does have its own free Internet Relay Chat channel, #wikipedia-en-lgbt connect, for coordination, collaboration and socializing. This channel is hosted on Freenode and can be accessed in one of two ways: If you already have an IRC client, click the link to the left. If you do not have an IRC client, you'll need to get one installed on your computer first. Once you've done this, then click on the link to the left. For more general information on IRC and a listing of other useful Wikipedia-related channels, see Wikipedia:IRC channels. The project had at one point another channel at #LGBTproject connect but as the original people associated with the setting up and administration of that channel have seemed to have disappeared, this new channel has been set up. Plus the new channel is inline with required naming conventions for Wikipedia related IRC channels. So, feel free to use this channel. Such a channel gives opportunity to discuss the latest happening on articles, the LGBT project itself, latest happening in your life with "wiki-friends" here, etc.. You can say things on there you normally wouldn't here on Wikipedia (keeping it civil of course) like talk about the latest hot guy/girl or tell a joke.. you get the point. Anyway, see you there - eventually! LGBT to-do list (held over from last edition) Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued. Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb. Bring back the monthly collaboration project. Participate in LGBT Peer reviews. Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA. Keep our project page and open tasks template updated. Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too! Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors. Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about. “ There are many well-respected LGBT leaders in all professional fields, including the arts and business communities. [I]n both the White House and the Federal agencies -- openly LGBT employees are doing their jobs with distinction and professionalism. [...] LGBT youth should feel safe to learn without the fear of harassment, and LGBT families and seniors should be allowed to live their lives with dignity and respect. At the international level, I have joined efforts at the United Nations to decriminalize homosexuality around the world. Here at home, I continue to support measures to bring the full spectrum of equal rights to LGBT Americans. These measures include enhancing hate crimes laws, supporting civil unions and Federal rights for LGBT couples, outlawing discrimination in the workplace, ensuring adoption rights, and ending the existing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in a way that strengthens our Armed Forces and our national security. [...] As long as the promise of equality for all remains unfulfilled, all Americans are affected. If we can work together to advance the principles upon which our Nation was founded, every American will benefit. During LGBT Pride Month, I call upon the LGBT community, the Congress, and the American people to work together to promote equal rights for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. [...] I call upon the people of the United States to turn back discrimination and prejudice everywhere it exists. - Barack Obama, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month, 2009, The White House (June 1, 2009). ” Click your heels three times ladies and gents, home is where hot is! -- Banjeboi To receive this newsletter in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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Lord Chaitanya knows everything that happens in all three phases (past, present, and future, of time. He knows that in the future some demoni people will serve Lord Advaita.

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They will refer to Lord Advaita by the name "Shri Krishna". In this way they will reject the words of the true Vaishnavas.

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These sinners will thus disobey the devotees who affirm that Advaita is "the greatest Vaishnava".

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Many persons will consider themselves the followers of Lord Advaita, but they will not have the power to see how in the future they will be punished.

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Lord Chaitanya, the crest jewel of they who know everything, knew all this. Therefore He did something to try to stop this from happening.

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By punishing His mother, Lord Chaitanya showed the result that comes from offending Lord Advaita or any other Vaishnava.

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No one can protect a person who has offended a Vaishnava.

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Therefore one should avoid persons who offend Vaishnava.

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One should avoid an offender, even if the offender is otherwise very qualified. A little association with an offender will make one fall down.

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Who has the power to understand why the Lord gives punishment? By punishing His mother, He taught everyone.

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Anyone who blasphemes they who use the word `Vaishnava" to address Lord Advaita will be punished. He will perish.

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Lord Chaitanya is theSupreme Personality of Godhead, the master of all. To be called His follower is very great praise.

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Without any intention to deceive, Lord Chaitanya openly said that Lord Nityananda is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know Lord Chaitanya. By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know the Vaishnavas.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy offenses are destroyed. By Lord Nityananda's mercy one attains devotion to Lord Vishnu.

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Blasphemy directed to Lord Nityananda's servants never enters my mouth. Day and night I happily sing Lord Chaitanya's glories

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I carefully serve Lord Nityananda's devotees. Lord Chaitanya is the life and wealth of Lord Nityananda's servants.

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A person who has only a little good fortune will not become Lord Nityananda's servant, for Lord Nityananda's servant is able to see Lord Chaitanya.

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Anyone who hears this story of Lord Visvarupa becomes a servant of the limitless Supreme Personality of Godhead. He feels that Lord Nityananda is his very life.

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Lord Nityananda and Lord Visvarupa do not have different bodies. This Mother Saci knew. Some other great souls also knew.

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Glory to Lord Nityananda, who takes shelter of Lord Chaitanya! Glory, glory to Lord Nityananda, who is thousand-faced Ananta Sesha!

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O Lord Nityananda, O king of Gauda-desa, glory to You! Who can attain Lord Chaitanya without first attaining Your mercy?

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Anyone who loses Lord Nityananda will not be happy in this life.

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Will I some day see Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nityananda, and their associates all thogether in one place?

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Lord Chaitanya is my master. With great faith and hope I meditate on Him within my heart.

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I bow down before Lord Advaita's feet. I pray that he will always be dear to me and that He will always stay in my thoughts.

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The two moons Shri Krishna Chaitanya and Shri Nityananda are my life and soul. I, Vrindavana dasa, sing the glories of Their feet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.132.82.156 (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-02T13:58:00.000Z","author":"95.132.82.156","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-95.132.82.156-2010-07-02T13:58:00.000Z-WikiProject_LGBT_studies_Newsletter_(June_2009)","replies":[]}}--> 

See: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nontheism.

Greetings, I see that you have chosen to conspicuously identify as a "Nontheistic Wikipedian" Me too! Currently there is a proposal to delete the article Nontheism or merge and redirect it to Atheism. Greg Bard (talk) 22:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-03T22:28:00.000Z","author":"Gregbard","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gregbard-2010-07-03T22:28:00.000Z-Proposed_deletion_of_Nontheism","replies":[],"displayName":"Greg\u00a0Bard"}}-->

Hi! My name is Annie Lin - I'm the Campus Team Coordinator at the Wikimedia Foundation. I'm contacting you because you're listed as a resident of San Francisco, and we're currently looking for a friendly Wikipedian to teach students in a University of San Francisco class how to use/edit Wikipedia. This is a role titled the "Wikipedia Campus Ambassador," and you'll basically be doing in-class presentations about Wikipedia, running Wikipedia labs/workshops, and in general providing face-to-face Wikipedia help for the professor and the students in the class. The time commitment is about 3-5 hours a week (with variations throughout the semester), and for this particular University of San Francisco class, most of the workload will be between March and May.

Please let me know if you're interested!

Thanks. Annie Lin (Campus Team Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-25T19:45:00.000Z","author":"Alin (Public Policy)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alin_(Public_Policy)-2011-01-25T19:45:00.000Z-Wikipedia_Campus_Ambassador_needed","replies":[],"displayName":"Annie Lin (Campus Team Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation)"}}-->

Category:LGBT topics in the San Francisco Bay Area, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-04T01:41:00.000Z","author":"Shawn in Montreal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2011-11-04T01:41:00.000Z-Categories_for_discussion_nomination_of_Category:LGBT_topics_in_the_San_Francisc","replies":[]}}-->

St. David School (Richmond, California) an article that you have participated in editing has been nominated for deletion a second time, the first time in 2006 resulted in no consensus and, it can be reviewed here. The current discussion on the removal of the article is located here should you wish leave your comment.LuciferWildCat (talk) 05:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-22T05:14:00.000Z","author":"Luciferwildcat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Luciferwildcat-2011-12-22T05:14:00.000Z-st._david","replies":[]}}-->

St. David School (Richmond, California) an article that you have participated in editing has been nominated for deletion a second time, the first time in 2006 resulted in no consensus and, it can be reviewed here. The current discussion on the removal of the article is located here should you wish leave your comment.LuciferWildCat (talk) 05:15, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-22T05:15:00.000Z","author":"Luciferwildcat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Luciferwildcat-2011-12-22T05:15:00.000Z-st_david","replies":[]}}-->

Hey - Sorry for the late notice, but since you have yourself tagged as living in the Bay Area, I thought you might appreciate notification that we’re having an event Saturday! It’ll be held at Hoyt Hall, an all-women's house of the Berkeley Student Cooperative from 3 to 6 pm tomorrow. The main event page is here. Anyone is welcome to show up, but we’re expecting a significant number of people to come who have literally never edited Wikipedia before. If you’re an experienced Wikipedian who would be able to provide useful help to some of the newbies, your presence would be especially appreciated (and it might be a good idea for you to show up at 2 or 2:30 instead of three. Thanks, Kevin Gorman (talk) 02:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC) I’m AWB’ing this message to all Wikipedians who have tagged themselves in the bay area. I’m sorry if the message isn’t of interest to you; feel free to delete it. I’ll be unlikely to send future messages in a similar way, but if really don’t want to receive future messages of this sort, please let me know. [reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-06T02:04:00.000Z","author":"Kevin Gorman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kevin_Gorman-2013-04-06T02:04:00.000Z-Women's_history_editathon","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Myheartinchile. In case you are not aware, there is an upcoming campaign to improve coverage of LGBT-related topics on Wikipedia, culminating with an international edit-a-thon on June 21. See Wiki Loves Pride 2014 for more information. If you are interested, you might consider creating a page for a major city (or cities!) near you, with a list of LGBT-related articles that need to be created or improved. This would be a tremendous help to Wikipedia and coverage of LGBT culture and history. Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-05-09T16:26:00.000Z","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Another_Believer-2014-05-09T16:26:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Pride_2014","replies":[]}}-->

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Signature Homes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Pleasanton (Amtrak station). Since you had some involvement with the Pleasanton (Amtrak station) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Mackensen (talk) 22:39, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-13T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Mackensen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mackensen-2016-02-13T22:39:00.000Z-Pleasanton_(Amtrak_station)_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

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As a participant of WikiProject LGBT studies, you are invited to participate in the third annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the month of June. The purpose of the campaign is to create and improve content related to LGBT culture and history. How can you help?

1. Create or improve LGBT-related Wikipedia pages and showcase the results of your work here
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This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. The group's mission is to develop LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. Visit the affiliate's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Wikipedia, plain and simple, and all are welcome! If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's talk page.

Thanks, and happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:39, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-05-30T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Another_Believer-2016-05-30T19:39:00.000Z-Wiki_Loves_Pride_2016","replies":[]}}-->

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 12st street bart station. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 5#12st street bart station until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-02-05T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Seventyfiveyears","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Seventyfiveyears-2021-02-05T14:18:00.000Z-\"12st_street_bart_station\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->