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Hi Jetstreamer! I have noticed that Biman Bangladesh Airlines page does not have a good picture of an aircraft's interior. Since I am not good with uploading images, would you consider uploading this image of 777's economy class and business class after getting the author's approval. Thanks - Ahnaaf (talk) 08:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T08:37:00.000Z","author":"Ahnaaf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ahnaaf-2013-11-06T08:37:00.000Z-Biman_interior","replies":[]}}-->
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The article has been semi-protected for a year, with the latest protection implemented by JamesBWatson (comment from this admin regarding the matter I mention). The silver lock worked for the year the page was under protection; since it expired less than a month ago, IP edits started introducing unsourced changes again, as you can see from the history of the article. Does this behaviour warrant protection again? Thanks in advance.--JetstreamerTalk23:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-04T23:04:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-04T23:04:00.000Z-Aeroflot_(again)","replies":["c-Yunshui-2013-11-05T13:49:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-04T23:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
I reckon it does, at that - so I've re-protected the page accordingly. Let's see if another year off is enough to discourage them... Yunshui雲水13:49, 5 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-05T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yunshui-2013-11-05T13:49:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-04T23:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-JamesBWatson-2013-11-05T18:16:00.000Z-Yunshui-2013-11-05T13:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
I would have protected it for longer than that. We are dealing with an editor who has been doing the same thing over a period of three years, and has not been deterred by several short-term protections and one for a year, and so is unlikely to be deterred by another one year block. However, as in all cases of page protection, we have to balance that against the collateral damage on legitimate IP editors caused by a long block, so maybe Yunshui's one year block is best. I certainly wouldn't have even considered anything less. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-05T18:16:00.000Z","author":"JamesBWatson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JamesBWatson-2013-11-05T18:16:00.000Z-Yunshui-2013-11-05T13:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-05T18:30:00.000Z-JamesBWatson-2013-11-05T18:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
@JamesBWatson and Yunshui. Thank you both for your responses. Kind regards.--JetstreamerTalk18:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-05T18:30:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-05T18:30:00.000Z-JamesBWatson-2013-11-05T18:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yunshui-2013-11-06T08:46:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-05T18:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
@JamesBWatson, If you want to extend the protection, I'd have no problem with that. Jetstreamer, you're more than welcome; any time. Yunshui雲水08:46, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T08:46:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Yunshui-2013-11-06T08:46:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-05T18:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Please accepted Potential Future Destinations in Philippine Airlines Destinations because those destinations are possibly fly with PAL.Please don't delete it.Other airlines have a Potential Future Destinations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul eva11 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T13:54:00.000Z","author":"Paul eva11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paul_eva11-2013-11-06T13:54:00.000Z-Philippine_Airlines_Destinations","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-06T14:40:00.000Z-Paul_eva11-2013-11-06T13:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm afraid that content falls into WP:CRYSTAL, i.e. prediction of the future, something Wikipedia is not for. Only include verifiable content that relies upon reliable sources, please.--JetstreamerTalk14:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T14:40:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-06T14:40:00.000Z-Paul_eva11-2013-11-06T13:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
You had a run-in with the above editor in October. The user has since added a lot of material to the Awaza article. Some of it alright, albeit lifted off another article, but most of the other stuff is quite poorly-written. Some of the material is sourced, but my Russian is not sufficient to read whether it supports the source or not. The user doesn't respond to my edit summaries explaining this, though they seemed to respond to yours, so all the better that I invite you to take a look at the article in its current state. Eik Corell (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-08T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Eik Corell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eik_Corell-2013-11-08T17:29:00.000Z-Editor_User:AltynAsyr","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T17:55:00.000Z-Eik_Corell-2013-11-08T17:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm currently kinda busy in real life, but will take a look ASAP.--JetstreamerTalk17:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-08T17:55:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T17:55:00.000Z-Eik_Corell-2013-11-08T17:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T22:06:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T17:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
It seems someone has beaten me.--JetstreamerTalk22:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-08T22:06:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T22:06:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-08T17:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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The reason I did not reference the information I provided was because I do not know how to add references, I find it a fairly confusing endeavor and I also think it was EXTREMELY rude of you to remove the reference-able information I provided on this page. The link below is the reference for the information I provided. However I am absolutely appalled by the fact that you think I should put the information back up on the page. That is so unbelievably rude of you to expect me to do it again. It is especially because I shouldn't have to do it because you didn't have to be pathetic and pedantic and remove the legitimate information provided. You are vile. No wonder you had to write at the top of this page about people making personal attacks, you're so rude. Catch a grip and stop being so rude to people. Itsianok (talk) 03:16, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T03:16:00.000Z","author":"Itsianok","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Itsianok-2013-11-09T03:16:00.000Z-Response_to_Flag_carrier_information","replies":[]}}-->
For the record, the user is referring to this edit, which was made by an IP. I've replied to this comment at the user's talk page.--JetstreamerTalk16:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T16:21:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T16:21:00.000Z-Itsianok-2013-11-09T02:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
], [[Ufa International Airport|Ufa]], [[Vladivostok International Airport|Vladivostok]] (begins {{Date|2013-11-30}},<ref>{{cite web|title= Uzbekistan Airways Plans Vladivostok Service from
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@Diannaa: Hello again. This new set of edits, which I'm pretty sure is Nardisoero (talk·contribs) hiding behind an IP to continue their unexplained modifications of sourced content, shows that this editor won't give up the fight as long as the article is unprotected or s(he) gets blocked. Considering our past discussion, does this warrant a new period of semi-protection? Many thanks.--JetstreamerTalk19:11, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T19:11:00.000Z-Surinam_Airways_(again)","replies":["c-Diannaa-2013-11-09T19:18:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T19:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think semi-protection rather than blocks, since he is using a dynamic IP. Best, -- Diannaa (talk) 19:18, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Diannaa-2013-11-09T19:18:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T19:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I'm sorry, Ijust read your message. I have direkt access to this data (actual seating configurations for Aerolíneas Argentinas). The references are old and mostly refer to planes that have already been returned to their lessors. Hope that helps and sorry again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.136.73.80 (talk) 14:26, 7 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-07T14:26:00.000Z","author":"186.136.73.80","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-186.136.73.80-2013-11-07T14:26:00.000Z-Aerol\u00edneas_Argentinas_fleet","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-07T22:00:00.000Z-186.136.73.80-2013-11-07T14:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
"I have direct access to this data" is not enough proof to support your modifications. I have reverted your edits again. Please be prepared to add reliable sources for your changes the next time you add or modify any content. Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk22:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-07T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-07T22:00:00.000Z-186.136.73.80-2013-11-07T14:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:09:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-07T22:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've reverted your last edits again, as you replaced official information with a source of dubious origin. Again, you should use reliable sources for your changes.--JetstreamerTalk20:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:09:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-07T22:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-186.136.73.80-2013-11-09T20:30:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
I understand the need to provide sources for the posted data. But the data currently included in the article is clearly wrong, which is visible by just going through any of Aerolíneas' A340-300s. This notion might not qualify as a quote but should be enough to realize that the data currently posted is wrong, including the (outdated) sources it refers to and that something should be done about it. Don't you think so? Otherwise the wrong data should be deleted.--Carlos RD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.136.73.80 (talk) 20:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T20:30:00.000Z","author":"186.136.73.80","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-186.136.73.80-2013-11-09T20:30:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:36:00.000Z-186.136.73.80-2013-11-09T20:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
Right or wrong does not fit here. The threshold for inclusion is verifiability, not truth. It is not what I think, but what the policies and guidelines say. I've taken a look at the current version of the official website for seating layout, and there's only one seat configuration for each type of aircraft. Furthermore, please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not a travel guide.--JetstreamerTalk20:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-09T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-09T20:36:00.000Z-186.136.73.80-2013-11-09T20:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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All fixed.--JetstreamerTalk20:40, 10 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-10T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-10T20:40:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-11-10T09:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Good morning, I wanted to tell a user insists delete information you add about a political scandal, the information you add is referenced by different newspapers, however the user and again erase the information and references. This is common in wikipedia or should not happen?Moya13 (talk) 11:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T11:09:00.000Z","author":"Moya13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moya13-2013-11-11T11:09:00.000Z-Help","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T11:16:00.000Z-Moya13-2013-11-11T11:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Moya13: Can you please tell me which is the article you are having issues with?--JetstreamerTalk11:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T11:16:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T11:16:00.000Z-Moya13-2013-11-11T11:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for the message.
I have only altered music data which I'm 100% sure of, such as Roy Orbison pages, etc. I've been collecting music data since July 1960, therefore have a high degree of knowledge where music is concerned.
Someone has mentioned to me a person with the sirname 'Derbyshire'. I don't know anyone with the last name 'Derbyshire'.
I contributed to the Guiness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums for many years {you'll find my name - Russtti Gaynor - listed in many of the final copies, until Virgin took over in 2006.
I only contribute to whoever/whatever I know for fact, okay? I will back it up if need be.
Regards,
Russtti Gaynor {111113}
email: [email protected]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.65.26.98 (talk) 12:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T12:49:00.000Z","author":"46.65.26.98","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-46.65.26.98-2013-11-11T12:49:00.000Z-Musical_Knowledge_Altered","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T14:08:00.000Z-46.65.26.98-2013-11-11T12:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm afraid I don't know what are you talking about.--JetstreamerTalk14:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T14:08:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T14:08:00.000Z-46.65.26.98-2013-11-11T12:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Please stop falsly accusing me of things which i have not done!
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Mr. Jetstream or whatever your true name might be, please stop accusing me falsely of things which I have never done on wikipedia! I never used any hidden IP number or whatever change you seem to be monitoring. If you want to contact me my name is Nardi Soerodimedjo living in Holland e-mail adress : [email protected] telephone number is +31 621635090 as you can see i'm not hiding, you can find me on facebook, linked in etc. I'm an honest guy, so please stop accusing me falsely!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nardisoero (talk • contribs) 23:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Nardisoero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nardisoero-2013-11-11T23:47:00.000Z-Please_stop_falsly_accusing_me_of_things_which_i_have_not_done!","replies":[]}}-->
I'm still very new to W and by no means fully confident - have made the odd mistake! But I was astonished just now when I visited the page on the MV Derbyshire in order to view it and not only had it had been blanked, but about only six minutes prior to my visit!
Anyway, I have restored it - having cursorily checked the old 'revision' and spotted no ills initially (tho' I was only viewing, not editing). I noticed that you appear to have left remarks on the 'talk' page of the user who blanked the page (if I am understanding all this) and should therefore be grateful if you could find a moment to check this - or otherwise advise.
I cannot see any 'in use' tag anywhere (not that I would necessarily recognise this). I hope all this is OK.
I also 'flagged up' this edit on the article's 'talk' page.
Regards and many thanks,
--Girly Brains (talk) 03:40, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T03:40:00.000Z","author":"Girly Brains","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Girly_Brains-2013-11-11T03:40:00.000Z-Help!","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T10:47:00.000Z-Girly_Brains-2013-11-11T03:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Girly Brains: Maybe we're not dealing with the same user, as the IP can be shared. Anyway, I've templated them. Thanks for reverting their blanking. Cheers.--JetstreamerTalk10:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T10:47:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-11T10:47:00.000Z-Girly_Brains-2013-11-11T03:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Many thanks for your comment, Jestsreamer and for your time. Girly Brains (talk) 20:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-16T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Girly Brains","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Girly_Brains-2013-11-16T20:29:00.000Z-Help!","replies":[]}}-->
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There are now 11 supporters for merger vs 9 opposers, will it be merged or continue as is, how long is this support/oppose debate open for till a decision is reached? 175.110.230.50 (talk) 21:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-16T21:03:00.000Z","author":"175.110.230.50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-175.110.230.50-2013-11-16T21:03:00.000Z-Air_Serbia_article_merger","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-16T21:08:00.000Z-175.110.230.50-2013-11-16T21:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
It will be in that way until someone not involved closes the debate.--JetstreamerTalk21:08, 16 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-16T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-16T21:08:00.000Z-175.110.230.50-2013-11-16T21:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Both fixed.--JetstreamerTalk13:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T13:50:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-17T13:50:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-11-17T09:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
The airline already took delivery of one of the aircraft on November 21, 2013 according to AA's official press release. But none of the sources say that AA has that aircraft in their fleet right now. Should we put the number in the table marked "in service" as when the airline actually begins flying that aircraft on routes or when the aircraft is delivered to the airline at the American Airlines fleet page? Snoozlepet (talk) 23:45, 21 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-21T23:45:00.000Z","author":"Snoozlepet","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Snoozlepet-2013-11-21T23:45:00.000Z-American_Airlines_A321_transcontinental_aircraft","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:19:00.000Z-Snoozlepet-2013-11-21T23:45:00.000Z"]}}-->
It is a matter of time. I'd tend to wait, but other editors may have added it already.--JetstreamerTalk10:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-22T10:19:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:19:00.000Z-Snoozlepet-2013-11-21T23:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:57:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Bellamy III, Woodrow (21 November 2013). "American Airlines Adds First A321T". Aviation Today. Archived from the original on 22 November 2013.--JetstreamerTalk10:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-22T10:57:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:57:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-22T10:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Well, Regarding EgyptAir state ownership (@ Flag carrier), I happen to be an Egyptian, and I know it's a state owned company, never the less, I wanted to have a confirmation before adding the information to Wikipedia, So I checked the Wikipedia page on EgyptAir, and it confirmed the same.
Do we really need to add reference to information already mentioned earlier on Wikipedia ?
And, regarding the citation, can a Non-English website be cited in an English Wikipedia article ? If so, a reference would be A press release from the Egyptian minstry of aviation --Serag4000 (talk) 05:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T05:47:00.000Z","author":"Serag4000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Serag4000-2013-11-24T05:47:00.000Z-EgyptAir_Ownership_Status","replies":[]}}-->
Ok, After lots of digging, I came up with EGYPTAIR Holding Company Annual Report, Which states on Page 5 that "EGYPTAIR is the Flag carrier of Egypt and owned by the Egyptian State." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serag4000 (talk • contribs) 06:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T06:28:00.000Z","author":"Serag4000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Serag4000-2013-11-24T06:28:00.000Z-EgyptAir_Ownership_Status","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-25T22:34:00.000Z-Serag4000-2013-11-24T06:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Serag4000: Hello, and thanks for the message. As per WP:NONENG, sources in languages other than English can also be used. Let me check the last source you mention, and if it supports the state ownership claim, I'll add it for yourself into the article. Regards.--JetstreamerTalk22:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-25T22:34:00.000Z-Serag4000-2013-11-24T06:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Both fixed.--JetstreamerTalk17:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:37:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-11-24T09:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Sorry but I cannot agree with your removal of my edits in Düsseldorf Airport. I'm editing articles here and on the German Wikipedia for several years now and know how to handle sources.
1. Edit - The change from Eastern to BA CityFlyer: I added a link to an article stating that BA CityFlyer upgrades from the Saab 2000 that Eastern operates on behalf of BA CityFlyer to Embraer 170/190 which are not operated by Eastern but BA itself as Eastern has no Embraer E-Jets.
2. Edit - Lufthansa ceases Tel Aviv. This change has been implemented in the booking schedule on lufthansa.com today and is discussed in German aviation forums. It is not possible to set direct links and therefore inline citations to the result of the result of asking to booking engine and also no direct links to lufthansa.com's schedule chart are possible. You can check it for yourself. DUS-TLV is flown on Wednesdays and Saturdays and the last available direct flight is the 12. January 2014. lufthansa.com is considered the primary source and as there is no possibility of direct links I did it this way for months and always got good feedback for it.
Greetings, --84.156.63.100 (talk) 17:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:38:00.000Z","author":"84.156.63.100","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:38:00.000Z-Your_removal_of_my_edits","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:42:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Do take a look WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. You should provide inline citations for your changes, both for start and end dates. Point 1 mentioned above is clearly original research. As to Point 2, aviation forums are not reliable sources. Sorry, but you are wrong.--JetstreamerTalk 17:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)--JetstreamerTalk17:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:42:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:42:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sorry, but I disagree. There is not original research when it is a fact that Eastern doesn't operate the mentioned type but the main company does as clearly visible from BA CityFlyer and Eastern Airways. Point 2: There might be a misunderstanding: The forums were just a hint, the primary and only valid source is lufthansa.com with it's official schedule and the booking engine and both clearly state that the route ceases but both can't be used as a inline citation as lufthansa.com doesn't generate reusable links for both. As I said, it's the primary source and everyone can check it. We are handling it this way for years, even if you may didn't notice (which is not meant to be offensive). I learned it from many other users and I'm active here for more than five years and never had such a discussion. --84.156.63.100 (talk) 17:47, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z","author":"84.156.63.100","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:52:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z","c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:58:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
I stick to the guidelines for airport content linked above, where it is clearly said that references should be provided. You are justifying yourself for not following them.--JetstreamerTalk17:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T17:52:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
You can of course, but then you have to remove several hundred notices of starting and ending dates throughout European airport articles as about only five percent of them have inline citations available. The simple problem is that the only valid source is in fact lufthansa.com and it's official schedule but it is IMPOSSIBLBE to make a inline citation to the result of the booking engine as the site doesn't generate usable links for it. Thats why most notices haven't got inline citations and secondary sources like airlineroute.net are considered to be not allowed - so we set the date and the link to the booking site in the summary so everybody can validate it.
Whole different story: I removed some content a few hours ago you added on Belle Air but this was not my goal. We have a problem with persistent vandalism there as seen from the history and the whole editing and undoing caused a mess. I just wanted to restore one of the correct versions and your edit was later than earlier sourced ones. --84.156.63.100 (talk) 17:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T17:58:00.000Z","author":"84.156.63.100","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:58:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T18:05:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
Never mind for the Bell Air edit, it's ok. Let me tell you that there was consensus some time ago and Airline Route can now be used as a source.--JetstreamerTalk18:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T18:05:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T18:05:00.000Z-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T17:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T18:12:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T18:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you, that's very good to know and will be very helpful in the future. As I said it is a problem to link search results on airline websites as many of them don't support reusable links when searching for specific dates or routes and that's why so many inline citations are missing. Also many changes lack a press release or other valid sources. I don't want to add false information here or do any damage and I spent hundreds of hours here in the last years to improve articles and update information based on valid sources but no one ever told me it is inacceptable as you did as I always found hidden notices to the source website in combination with the summary the best way for integrating primary sources that can't be linked directly. --84.156.63.100 (talk) 18:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T18:12:00.000Z","author":"84.156.63.100","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-84.156.63.100-2013-11-26T18:12:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T18:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
My pleasure. It is evident that you're acting in good faith. Just bear in mind that everything looks better when a source is provided. Now that you know Airline Route can be used, you'll find the sourcing process much easier...--JetstreamerTalk20:17, 26 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-11-26T20:17:00.000Z-Your_removal_of_my_edits","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi, do you know what type of plane features in this old Somali airline picture? http://www.jaallesiyaad.com/images/stories/somaliairlines/21.jpg Nothing in the historic fleet section resembles that type. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.11.215.113 (talk) 22:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-02T22:41:00.000Z","author":"94.11.215.113","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-94.11.215.113-2013-12-02T22:41:00.000Z-Airplane_type_Somali_Airlines","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-02T23:09:00.000Z-94.11.215.113-2013-12-02T22:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
That's a Boeing 747-300 or -400.--JetstreamerTalk23:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-02T23:09:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-02T23:09:00.000Z-94.11.215.113-2013-12-02T22:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Let's see...
Gor Orvakhovitsa pointed to Gorna Oryahovitsa. I changed the name to... Gorna Oryahovitsa. How could this be wrong? On the other hand, if you have any sources proving that Gorna Oryahovitsa has even been called Gor Orvakhovitsa, I'd like to see them.
Same with Stara Zagoran and Stara Zagora.
About Ruschuk and Philipopolis - again, I changed the names to match the pointed articles. Unlike Gor Orvakhovitsa and Stara Zagoran these are real names of the cities. However, they are old, from before planes were invented.
Thanks for making me refrain from fixing obvious errors. I hope this makes Wikipedia better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbr (talk • contribs) 18:22, 3 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-03T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Gbr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gbr-2013-12-03T18:22:00.000Z-Re:_https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=User_talk:46.40.126.124&redirect=","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-03T22:40:00.000Z-Gbr-2013-12-03T18:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
It's simple. Almost all the content should be backed by reliable sources, which means that sources should support what is written at every article. What you did was either to remove piped links or to replace redirects. By doing that, you introduced original research which, in plain words, means the source provided no longer supports the content in a direct fashion. Anyway, thanks for your contributions.--JetstreamerTalk22:40, 3 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-03T22:40:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-03T22:40:00.000Z-Gbr-2013-12-03T18:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I know you have done alot of work on Aeroflot articles. The one on this air crash needs more work....William01:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-05T01:04:00.000Z","author":"WilliamJE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WilliamJE-2013-12-05T01:04:00.000Z-Aeroflot_Flight_6502","replies":[],"displayName":"...William"}}-->
Thanks for moving article title, but the destinations page still remains as Nas Air. 175.110.197.86 (talk) 19:44, 7 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-07T19:44:00.000Z","author":"175.110.197.86","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-175.110.197.86-2013-12-07T19:44:00.000Z-Flynas_destinations","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-07T19:48:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2013-12-07T19:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Moved.--JetstreamerTalk19:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-07T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-07T19:48:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2013-12-07T19:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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For your thorough contributions to various airline articles. EnsignrickyTalk22:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-07T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Ensignricky","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ensignricky-2013-12-07T22:55:00.000Z-An_award_for_you!","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-07T22:57:00.000Z-Ensignricky-2013-12-07T22:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you, very much! I'm also indebted for this edit of yours.--JetstreamerTalk22:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-07T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-07T22:57:00.000Z-Ensignricky-2013-12-07T22:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Fixed.--JetstreamerTalk22:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-08T22:03:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-12-08T09:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Good morning, I wanted to tell a user insists delete information you add about a political scandal, the information you add is referenced by different newspapers, however the user and again erase the information and references. This is common in wikipedia or should not happen?Moya13 (talk) 07:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_K_money_trail article where information is deleted__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T07:22:00.000Z","author":"Moya13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moya13-2013-12-13T07:22:00.000Z-HELP_2","replies":[]}}-->
I've never contributed to that article, AFAIK.--JetstreamerTalk13:10, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-13T13:10:00.000Z-HELP_2","replies":[]}}-->
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Both fixed.--JetstreamerTalk12:55, 15 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-15T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-15T12:55:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-12-15T09:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thanks Jetstreamer for ur warm welcome ! :)
Whenever I want to add or edit something to an article I wish to seek only reliable sources. However I still need to do that for the updates I have made concerning RAM's destinations I obtained the information from ch-aviation http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/airline/AT and on the french page of RAM. I even counted the destinations on the Royal Air Maroc Destination page and that's way more then the intitial 67 mentioned ;) (89 destinations) However I will include these sources, as I wasn't entirely sure how to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evergreen09 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T10:39:00.000Z","author":"Evergreen09","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evergreen09-2013-12-19T10:39:00.000Z-Welcomed_a_new_user","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-19T10:49:00.000Z-Evergreen09-2013-12-19T10:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
My pleasure. You may want to take a look at WP:REF for the inclusion of inline citations. Please also note that I've tagged an image you've recently uploaded for deletion, as it lacks a valid license. Do not hesitate to ask me or any other user if you have questions. You may also place the {{help-me}} template in your user page with any question, and some people here will be more than willing to assist you. Regards.--JetstreamerTalk10:49, 19 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-19T10:49:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-19T10:49:00.000Z-Evergreen09-2013-12-19T10:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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KLM does have traffic rights between EZE and SCL beginning Feb 3, 2014
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The flights are now loaded and for sale (for the last two weeks or so) in Amadeus, Sabre, etc., computer systems used by the travel industry to book flights. Furthermore, KLM also has filed tariffs for the EZE-SCL route (also accessibly in Amadeus, Sabre, etc.). The flights can only be loaded and tariffs filed if KLM had the traffic rights. A cursory look at the KLM website (or Expedia, Travelocity, etc.) would also have shown you that the flights are for sale (and hence traffic rights granted). Please do not make any more changes of correct information with incorrect information - especially if you do not even make a cursory check to see if your changes are correct!76.24.29.148 (talk) 20:35, 21 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-21T20:35:00.000Z","author":"76.24.29.148","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.24.29.148-2013-12-21T20:35:00.000Z-KLM_does_have_traffic_rights_between_EZE_and_SCL_beginning_Feb_3,_2014","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-22T15:15:00.000Z-76.24.29.148-2013-12-21T20:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
All I will state is that I will continue removing edits like the one you made to Ministro Pistarini International Airport as long as no inline citations are provided. It's you the one that needs to become familiar with policies, especially the one regarding verifiability.--JetstreamerTalk15:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-22T15:15:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-22T15:15:00.000Z-76.24.29.148-2013-12-21T20:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Good evening, I'm a fairly new user, but I read the rules of wikipedia, I need help with an article.Moya13 (talk) 03:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T03:32:00.000Z","author":"Moya13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moya13-2013-12-28T03:32:00.000Z-Help_3","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-28T04:14:00.000Z-Moya13-2013-12-28T03:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
Please tell me how can I help you.--JetstreamerTalk04:14, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T04:14:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-28T04:14:00.000Z-Moya13-2013-12-28T03:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello, you left me a message (to my IP address) while I wasn't logged in, about an edit I jsut did on the Ministro Pistarini page. I'm sorry I didn't summarize it. I did it because the train line that passes nearby the airport isn't quite reachable (15km to be done by slow buses or cab), and also not safe in any aspect and very long. I don't think it's a correct way to go to Buenos Aires city (and I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy!). Anyway, sorry about the non-summary edit, have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Demophobya (talk • contribs) 16:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Demophobya","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Demophobya-2013-12-28T16:25:00.000Z-non-summary_edit_on_Ezeiza_Airport_page.","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks Jetstream. I have noted your advice. I noticed you are an active contributor on the Air Zimbabwe page. Some entries have been incorrect for sometime. If you may please correct the company logo. The logo changed in August 2012 when the company was renamed Air Zimbabwe Private Limited.
I hope to learn more from you as I am new to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bekay80 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Bekay80","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bekay80-2013-12-29T14:02:00.000Z-Thank_you.","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-29T14:58:00.000Z-Bekay80-2013-12-29T14:02:00.000Z"]}}-->
You may want to take a look at the several links included in my welcome message placed at your talk page.--JetstreamerTalk14:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T14:58:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-29T14:58:00.000Z-Bekay80-2013-12-29T14:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
You are such a goody two shoes! Stop edit warring or you will be blocked! 166.147.121.162 (talk) 17:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-31T17:33:00.000Z","author":"166.147.121.162","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.147.121.162-2013-12-31T17:33:00.000Z-Ethiopian_Airlines","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-31T17:37:00.000Z-166.147.121.162-2013-12-31T17:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
Not warring at all. I've left a message at the IP after my second reversion. Unfortunately, s(he) refuses to cooperate and discuss the matter and removed my message.--JetstreamerTalk17:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-31T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-31T17:37:00.000Z-166.147.121.162-2013-12-31T17:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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All fixed.--JetstreamerTalk19:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-31T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-31T19:09:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2013-12-31T09:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Listen, you, idiot from (country name), would you like to take care of your own business and edit articles that belong to your region and to (country name) maybe? " hope a warning can be issued.175.110.197.86 (talk) 03:46, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T03:46:00.000Z","author":"175.110.197.86","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-175.110.197.86-2013-12-29T03:46:00.000Z-Offensive_message_from_IP","replies":[]}}-->
Another one just arrived:
"Latest revision as of 03:51, 29 December 2013 (edit) (undo)
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(Final warning)
Listen now carefully you stupid bastard, hands-off the Air Serbia article, i'll find you wherever you are. You try again to edit or mix yourself in the discussion and you'll see, not any "warning" or pathetic messages to Wikipedia will help you." 175.110.197.86 (talk) 03:55, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T03:55:00.000Z","author":"175.110.197.86","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-175.110.197.86-2013-12-29T03:55:00.000Z-Offensive_message_from_IP","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-29T13:28:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2013-12-29T03:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've templated the IP. The other user has been blocked by an admin.--JetstreamerTalk13:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T13:28:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-29T13:28:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2013-12-29T03:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, this guy has been vandalizing Air Serbia page. Also i saw he is being active "moderating" the pages of Israeli aviation. I think he's got some problem with Serbs and Israelis. I love Pakistani people but this one seems a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.220.225 (talk) 04:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z","author":"93.86.220.225","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-93.86.220.225-2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z-Offensive_message_from_IP","replies":["c-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:47:00.000Z-93.86.220.225-2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z","c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-30T14:54:00.000Z-93.86.220.225-2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
Racist? how? did I post any hate against Serbia or Air Serbia, I have been helping improve that article inline with wiki rules leaving a summary when required, what I did was remove some politically slanted rant at Turkey because Air Serbia did not get any slots at Ataturk airport, which was so not needed in that article, also keep remiving unecessaru =y wording and repeated use of some words. Same for Israel aviation, never posted anything personal or biased, instead I have helped improve the UP Airline article and even created a section for it the El Al article when UP was just announced, I have edited Israeli airline articles only to improve their layout and add stuff, if you call improving articles, adding content, removing unnecessary repetitive words and biased personal opinions from an encyclopedia vandalism, then you shouldnt be on wiki, and I don't go around threatening and abusing people unlike you.175.110.197.86 (talk) 09:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-02T09:47:00.000Z","author":"175.110.197.86","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:47:00.000Z-93.86.220.225-2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I don't know what seems to be the problem between both of you, but please be civil.--JetstreamerTalk14:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2013-12-30T14:54:00.000Z-93.86.220.225-2013-12-30T04:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:30:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-12-30T14:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Jetstreamer, I don't know what game this IP 93. is playing, he has sent me another message on my talk page, I don't know this person nor the other IP probably his sockpuppet, neither have I messaged them nor replied to their comments. What is more surprising is the message you sent him, instead of a warning you actually seemed to be patronizing him, considering you once called my edits vandalism and threatened me with a permanent ban, for simply not adding a citation to the editing I had done under a different IP some years back. This person has threatened me, daring to say he will go to the extreme of finding me anywhere and not caring about wiki if I report to them, and even abused me and yet you let him go with just a slap on the wrist. 175.110.197.86 (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-02T09:30:00.000Z","author":"175.110.197.86","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:30:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2013-12-30T14:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-02T13:10:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
I actually read it, and that was the last activity from 93.86.XXX.XXX, on 30 December. What I did was to template them with a level-one warning, which is standard practise. The other user, who placed a more agressive message at your talk page, was blocked by an admin almost immediately. All you have to do is just keeping up your work. If you ever receive unfriendly messages at your talk page again just let me know.--JetstreamerTalk13:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-02T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-02T13:10:00.000Z-175.110.197.86-2014-01-02T09:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Wikipedia is an American Website, if you could please stop my friend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izzy.neon (talk • contribs) 02:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-07T02:56:00.000Z","author":"Izzy.neon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Izzy.neon-2014-01-07T02:56:00.000Z-Uzbekistan_Airways","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-07T13:12:00.000Z-Izzy.neon-2014-01-07T02:56:00.000Z"]}}-->
MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN applies.--JetstreamerTalk13:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-07T13:12:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-07T13:12:00.000Z-Izzy.neon-2014-01-07T02:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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All fixed.--JetstreamerTalk13:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-07T13:41:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-07T13:41:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-01-07T09:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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PLEASE RETURN MY SOURCE OF 8 BOEING 737-800 ORDER IN THE AIR ALGERIE PAGE OR I SEND A MESSAGE TO AIR ALGERIE FOR INFORM YOUR DIFAMATION CONTRE THE AIRLINE.
AND NOT BANNE MY IP ADRESS. BECAUSE I HAVE INFORMED THE SOURCE IN THE LAST CHANGE IN AIR ALGERIE.
THANKS FOR YOUR COMPRENTION! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.46.92.33 (talk) 14:28, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T14:28:00.000Z","author":"181.46.92.33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:28:00.000Z-INJUSTE_BANNE_IP_ADRESS_FOR_YOUR_PART","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T14:42:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
I already explained my rationale at your talk page and at the article's talk page. A commitment for buying aircraft is not a firm order. Have you read the source you're mentioning ("Boeing, Air Algerie Announce Commitment for Eight Next-Generation 737-800s" (Press release). Boeing. 6 January 2014. Archived from the original on 6 January 2014.)? I quote a part of it below:
“
Boeing (NYSE:BA) and Air Algerie today announced a commitment for eight Next-Generation 737-800 airplanes. When finalized, the order will be worth $724 million at list prices and will be posted to the Boeing Orders & Deliveries website.
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The airline hasn't bought these aircraft yet, it has just signed a commitment. You are clearly misinterpreting the reference you mention above. The number of aircraft on order in the fleet table is backed by a previous source, completely in compliance with the verifiability policy.--JetstreamerTalk14:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T14:42:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Request for admin help withdrawn for now
Hello there. The IP above and me have been engaged in a dispute regarding the number of aircraft on order for Air Algérie. Despite my efforts to make him/her understand, s(he) keeps on modifying the article. Actually, there was a fourth modification ([1]) that I won't revert. I think I made the right thing on trying to explain the situation to the IP at their talk page, at the article's talk page and here, but it's clear that s(he) doesn't want to understand. Thanks in advance.--JetstreamerTalk14:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T14:51:00.000Z-INJUSTE_BANNE_IP_ADRESS_FOR_YOUR_PART","replies":[]}}-->
What?? What?? You talk about what?? Air Algérie was confirmed the order. Talk with Air Algérie.
Air Algérie has ordened 8 Boeing 737-800NG. That is confirmed!
If you want, talk with Boeing for confirm my information. Realy do you have a scatterbrain.
Also if you want, enter in Google Notices, write Air Algérie, and you see minimum 50 notices inform the order of Air Algérie of 8 Boeing 737-800NG.
That is the Facebook of the Transport Minister of Algerie, enter to the album for see the pic with the confirmation of the order with the Boeing representant of Africa: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.563960637019369.1073741940.258032980945471&type=3
Inform you my friend! Realy you is a scatterbrain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.46.92.33 (talk) 14:54, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T14:54:00.000Z","author":"181.46.92.33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:54:00.000Z-INJUSTE_BANNE_IP_ADRESS_FOR_YOUR_PART","replies":[]}}-->
I end my conversation with you, because is impossible to talk to a person like that.
Realy, open your mind and lisent other persons.
I is Algerian, I know my airline, and I assure you have airlines page in Wikipedia with orders not confirmeds but is in the page, and the Air Algérie 8 Boeing 737-800 is a confirmed order and you talk.
Realy is to much.
Continue with you cloud castle. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.46.92.33 (talk) 14:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T14:58:00.000Z","author":"181.46.92.33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:58:00.000Z-INJUSTE_BANNE_IP_ADRESS_FOR_YOUR_PART","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:02:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
I cannot figure out why you did not set to discuss the matter earlier. Separately, the one that modifies a statement that can be challenged should provide a source, as per WP:BURDEN. You provided a source that does not support your changes. Those aircraft are not on order yet. I will wait for an admin response anyway.--JetstreamerTalk15:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T15:02:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:02:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T14:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
AND NOW, EXPLAIN ME, WHERE YOU SEE 5 BOEING 737-800 ORDER? WHERE? REALY DO YOU HAVE A BIG CONTRADICTION IN YOUR MIND.
DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE CONFIRM AIR ALGERIE HAS ORDENED 5 BOEING 737-800? I THINK NO.
IS 8 BOEING 737-800 SO STOP WITH THIS DISCUTION. BYE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.46.92.33 (talk) 15:08, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z","author":"181.46.92.33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z-INJUSTE_BANNE_IP_ADRESS_FOR_YOUR_PART","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:16:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z","c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:37:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
There was a source confirming that before you removed it with your last edit. You are not reading the article.--JetstreamerTalk15:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T15:16:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:16:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I did make a reply to your request for admin help, but I now see that my reply was based on a misreading of the situation. Unfortunately, I don't have any more time to follow this up, so for now i am just reverting and leaving things as they were. JamesBWatson (talk)
I've removed the request for admin help ([2]) for now. I'll just wait.--JetstreamerTalk15:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-10T15:37:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-10T15:37:00.000Z-181.46.92.33-2014-01-10T15:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I am having a problem. Etihad is adding an extra flight from AUH to JFK (http://www.etihad.com/en-us/about-us/news/archive/2014/etihad-airways-to-double-flights-to-new-york/). It states that from May 1, 2014, flights will be operated by Jet Airways (Etihad will operate the flights from 1 March 2014). An IP made JFK a future destination for Jet Airways but I wanted to know if it will be a Jet Airways flight or an Etihad flight. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 02:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-22T02:19:00.000Z","author":"68.119.73.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:19:00.000Z-Jet_Airways_to_JFK","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:41:00.000Z-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
The third paragraph of the press release says it all:
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Initially, the new flights will be operated by Etihad Airways using two tri-class Boeing 777-300ER aircraft leased from its strategic partner, India’s Jet Airways. From May 1, 2014, Jet Airways will operate these flights.
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Link to the archive version: "Etihad Airways to double flights to New York" (Press release). Etihad Airways. 15 January 2014. Archived from the original on 22 January 2014.--JetstreamerTalk02:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-22T02:41:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:41:00.000Z-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:44:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
Jet Airway's website does not list JFK and it cannot be booked from there. Also, Jet's press releases makes no mention of Abu Dhabi to JFK route. I have labeled the entry as "Etihad Airways operated by Jet Airways" since it is an Etihad coded flight but will be operated by Jet Airways. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 02:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-22T02:44:00.000Z","author":"68.119.73.36","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:44:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:49:00.000Z-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just give them some days. According to the press release, the information is that 9W will start its own service. Let's give the press release some credit, as Etihad is 9W's new shareholder.--JetstreamerTalk02:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-22T02:49:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-22T02:49:00.000Z-68.119.73.36-2014-01-22T02:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Me and an IP are having a dispute for El Al's service to Zagreb. On the Ben Gurion Airport and Zagreb Airport page, I have added it with a start date under "El Al" but an IP says that the flights are already operating under the Sun D'Or brand. Can you take a look? I am at the risk of getting blocked. Thanks! 68.119.73.36 (talk) 01:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-23T01:21:00.000Z","author":"68.119.73.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.119.73.36-2014-01-23T01:21:00.000Z-El_Al_to_Zagreb","replies":[]}}-->
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Both fixed.--JetstreamerTalk12:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-27T12:45:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-27T12:45:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-01-26T08:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I have given me this user a final warning for adding unsourced content on Malaysia Airlines destinations page and then attacks me at my talk page (WP:SHOUT). I have reported him/her to administators. Rzxz1980 (talk) 04:48, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T04:48:00.000Z","author":"Rzxz1980","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rzxz1980-2014-01-29T04:48:00.000Z-IP_135.195.23.13","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T13:24:00.000Z-Rzxz1980-2014-01-29T04:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Blocked for two days.--JetstreamerTalk13:24, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T13:24:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T13:24:00.000Z-Rzxz1980-2014-01-29T04:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Dear sir. You should have read the rest of the paragraph on RAF Langford Lodge before reverting the change I made. If you had you would have noticed that, just two lines above this reference, there is an inline ref pointing to "Langford Lodge Airport" with a redirect to RAF Langford Lodge which clearly explains the airfield is in the hands of "RLC (UK) a subsidiary of RLC Engineering Group which is head quartered in the Isle of Man." Therefore the term "private (ex-military)" needs no further explanation or citation. I'm sure the Wiki appreciates your keenness but the rest of us would prefer not to waste time like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.152.14 (talk) 16:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T16:17:00.000Z","author":"91.125.152.14","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-91.125.152.14-2014-01-29T16:17:00.000Z-Dan_Air","replies":[]}}-->
Oh and btw - just because I choose not to log in or sign posts is no reason for you to believe I'm a beginner - which I most certainly am not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.152.14 (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T16:25:00.000Z","author":"91.125.152.14","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-91.125.152.14-2014-01-29T16:25:00.000Z-Dan_Air","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T17:53:00.000Z-91.125.152.14-2014-01-29T16:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
Unfortunately, I've reverted your latest changes again ([3]), as they go against WP:VERIFY, a core content policy. The changes you made are not included in the companion reference, i.e. nowhere in that source it is said that the airfield the aircraft landed at was private. Maybe you should re-read the core content policies (WP:VERIFY in particular) before making such changes again, either to this article or to any other. BTW, you should sign your posts. Only a beginner does not know that.--JetstreamerTalk17:53, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T17:53:00.000Z-91.125.152.14-2014-01-29T16:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T19:24:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T17:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
It's people like you who put people like me off getting involved anymore in Wikipedia. The fucking inline source confirms the airfield is in private hands but yet you still argue the toss. There wasn't and isn't anything to stop you confirming this by going to the RLC website and confirming they own the airfield but no, you prefer to waste time removing the information instead of doing something practical and useful. You're a pedantic wanker - simple as that. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time on you or the pathetic little article you're assuming ownership over. So save your childish comments about beginners etc for somebody who actually gives a fuck.
WP:BURDEN. I'm not gonna do you work for you.--JetstreamerTalk19:24, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T19:24:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T19:24:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T17:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Okey, I’m sorry but... Are you a or are you acting like a ?
And not to offend, but it's the least one can think after that of Spoken encyclopedias! Because Oh My God.. Where is there an "SPOKEN ENCYCLOPEDIA", for God sake, read in full all the changes I made! Don’t hinder people who want to collaborate. If I was just clarifying that it is only used when written and NOT when spoken is because NOBODY in Argentina says Ce ef kay met at the Council of Ministers this morning, no!! It is not like in the U.S. when people says Jay Ef Kay was murdered referring to John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Because it only appears in the press and when people read that, people don’t read it as ce efe ka neither, they just read that as Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. And don’t go out with the tangent, if you find that there are to much references you may delete many of them, but don’t reverse all the edition, because instead you making this encylopedia progressing, what occurs is that you are only deteriorating this encyclopedia. But you know... Do what you want to do, I will not care anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.166.6.18 (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T23:08:00.000Z","author":"190.166.6.18","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-190.166.6.18-2014-01-29T23:08:00.000Z-CFK","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T23:12:00.000Z-190.166.6.18-2014-01-29T23:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
You may continue this discussion at the article's talk page. I've explained my rationale there. Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk23:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-29T23:12:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-01-29T23:12:00.000Z-190.166.6.18-2014-01-29T23:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Fixed.--JetstreamerTalk14:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-02T14:23:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-02T14:23:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-02-02T08:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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There was an air show crash in 1938 that killed over 50 people and doesn't an accident article. Would you like to help work on one. Some of the sources are in Spanish. ...William20:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-06T20:38:00.000Z","author":"WilliamJE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WilliamJE-2014-02-06T20:38:00.000Z-Talkback-1","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-06T20:41:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2014-02-06T20:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"...William"}}-->
Sure, why not! I'm kinda busy nowadays but If can be of help, count me in.--JetstreamerTalk20:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-06T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-06T20:41:00.000Z-WilliamJE-2014-02-06T20:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-WilliamJE-2014-02-07T13:53:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-06T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
FYI I created Santa Ana air show disaster....William13:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-07T13:53:00.000Z","author":"WilliamJE","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WilliamJE-2014-02-07T13:53:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-06T20:41:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"...William"}}-->
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Thank you for clarifying. I completely understand now.Danphilollw (talk) 04:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-15T04:46:00.000Z","author":"Danphilollw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Danphilollw-2014-02-15T04:46:00.000Z-Istanbul_Ataturk_Airport_edit","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello there, dear Wikipedians! Can you please tell me if there's a page that mentions the fact that the removal of maintenance templates constitutes vandalism? Thanks in advance.--JetstreamerTalk14:31, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:31:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:31:00.000Z-Question_regarding_the_removal_of_maintenance_templates","replies":["c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:38:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
First entry under WP:VANDTYPES any use? Yunshui雲水14:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:38:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:38:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:41:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Actually, it's probably not - but the standard definition of vandalism is intentionally non-specific: if the templates are being removed in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, then it's vandalism by definition. If there's another reason, then it's not (although WP:DE and WP:EW may apply). Yunshui雲水14:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:41:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:41:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:47:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Yunshui: Thanks Yunshui, very kind of you. The link you provided first does not mention that the removal of more general maintenance templates (such as {{morerefs}}) is vandalism. I think I've placed the template at London Heathrow Airport some time ago but it was removed. The problem is that the table for airlines and destinations has a number of unsourced entries. I tried to removed them one by one and warn the user(s) that added them, but I couldn't due to intermediate edits. I don't want to tagbomb the table either, so I placed the template again. I expect someone will remove it soon.--JetstreamerTalk14:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:47:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:51:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
In that case, I'd suggest a (polite!) reminder to the other user that maintenance templates are there to encourage improvements to the article, and that they are very welcome to remove the template once they've addressed the issues it raises. You never know, they might actually make some constructive changes. Yunshui雲水14:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:51:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:55:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:51:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Yunshui: Unfortunately, the most general behaviour is to remove them because their presence uglifies the article. Anyway, I'll take your advice. Again, thanks.--JetstreamerTalk14:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-19T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-19T14:55:00.000Z-Yunshui-2014-02-19T14:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I'm so sorry, I will be more careful - Nguyen QuocTrungtalk13:10, 14 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:10:00.000Z","author":"Nguyen QuocTrung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nguyen_QuocTrung-2014-02-14T13:10:00.000Z-Aeroflot","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-14T13:36:00.000Z-Nguyen_QuocTrung-2014-02-14T13:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
Great!--JetstreamerTalk13:36, 14 February 2014 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-14T13:36:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-14T13:36:00.000Z-Nguyen_QuocTrung-2014-02-14T13:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I am very grateful for what you do, thanks - Nguyen QuocTrungtalk11:06, 21 February 2014 (UTC).__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-21T11:06:00.000Z","author":"Nguyen QuocTrung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nguyen_QuocTrung-2014-02-21T11:06:00.000Z-Aeroflot","replies":[]}}-->
Your attention is requested here where I have submitted comments for your interest along with several questions I hope you will answer regarding recent changes you have made to the article. I intend to edit this article extensively over the next few days/weeks and want to ensure I have your tacit acceptance that many of the references contained within it will be deleted as per the instructions in the maintenance box, which will then be removed. I have noticed you are patrolling this article and wish to ensure in advance you will be willing to discuss changes you object to rather than simply reverting them with an emphatic edit summary line. Thank you. SonofSetanta (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-24T18:03:00.000Z","author":"SonofSetanta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SonofSetanta-2014-02-24T18:03:00.000Z-Attention_requested","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-24T19:12:00.000Z-SonofSetanta-2014-02-24T18:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Discussion between editors is encouraged. Needless to say, I'm open to discuss anything that gets the article improved. Regarding the specific matter you raised, I've replied at the article's talk page.--JetstreamerTalk19:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-24T19:12:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-24T19:12:00.000Z-SonofSetanta-2014-02-24T18:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hi Jetstreamer! Biman is retiring their DC-10s as they are out of scheduled passenger service; they currently doing scenic flights in Birmingham, as a part of its farewell. I am not sure whether to keep the DC-10 in the fleet list or not, as Biman's website's fleet information section is outdated. Will you please help out here? Thanks! - Ahnaaf (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-23T05:15:00.000Z","author":"Ahnaaf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ahnaaf-2014-02-23T05:15:00.000Z-Biman_DC-10s","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-24T19:13:00.000Z-Ahnaaf-2014-02-23T05:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Ahnaaf: I'd tend to wait until the aircraft type is removed from the official website.--JetstreamerTalk19:13, 24 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-24T19:13:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-24T19:13:00.000Z-Ahnaaf-2014-02-23T05:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hi Jetstreamer. Thanks for your comment on my talk. If you still think the article about this hijacking should be moved, can you file it at WP:RMTR? That way I won't make a mistake, since I don't recall what the original move proposal said. EdJohnston (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-25T21:19:00.000Z","author":"EdJohnston","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EdJohnston-2014-02-25T21:19:00.000Z-Ethiopian_Airlines_ET702_hijacking","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-26T00:43:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2014-02-25T21:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
@EdJohnston:Done. Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk00:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-26T00:43:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-26T00:43:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2014-02-25T21:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. I came across this edit, where all the images used seem to lack a proper license. I've tried to tag them for speedy deletion but couldn't do so with Twinkle, getting a message that the page did not exist or something like that. Can you please take a look? Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk23:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T23:09:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-27T23:09:00.000Z-Images_lacking_a_proper_source","replies":["c-Huon-2014-02-27T23:22:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-27T23:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
Those images are hosted on the Wikimedia Commons and must be tagged for deletion over there. And yes, the sample I checked was indeed not released under the claimed license. Huon (talk) 23:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T23:22:00.000Z","author":"Huon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Huon-2014-02-27T23:22:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-02-27T23:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-27T23:32:00.000Z-Huon-2014-02-27T23:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Huon: Didn't realise that. Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk23:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-27T23:32:00.000Z-Huon-2014-02-27T23:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
There you have it Mr. Jetstreamer uber pwned! http://www.ethiopianairlines.com/en/news/pressreleases.aspx?hl=%20511 HAHAHAHAHA!!!! -737-8Z9 (talk) 18:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-01T18:35:00.000Z","author":"737-8Z9","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-737-8Z9-2014-03-01T18:35:00.000Z-Ethiopian_Airlines_Vienna","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-01T20:15:00.000Z-737-8Z9-2014-03-01T18:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
You may want to spend your time providing licenses for the images you uploaded to Commons. My time is precious both here and in my real life.--JetstreamerTalk20:15, 1 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-01T20:15:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-01T20:15:00.000Z-737-8Z9-2014-03-01T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-737-8Z9-2014-03-02T15:11:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-01T20:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
Next time just believe me - I have sources you don't have... -737-8Z9 (talk) 15:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-02T15:11:00.000Z","author":"737-8Z9","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-737-8Z9-2014-03-02T15:11:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-01T20:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-02T16:10:00.000Z-737-8Z9-2014-03-02T15:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
Well, at first you did not use those sources you claim you had. Any content that is likely to be challenged should be supported with at least an inline citation to a reliable source directly backing the assertion, as per WP:VERIFY. I hope you have understood that.--JetstreamerTalk16:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-02T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-02T16:10:00.000Z-737-8Z9-2014-03-02T15:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. Well, you could have left the flags, at least. Those are verifiable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondolkiri1 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-26T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Mondolkiri1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mondolkiri1-2014-02-26T00:00:00.000Z-TAP_Portugal_destinations","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-26T00:05:00.000Z-Mondolkiri1-2014-02-26T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
No comments.--JetstreamerTalk00:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-26T00:05:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-02-26T00:05:00.000Z-Mondolkiri1-2014-02-26T00:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
In other similar pages about other airlines flags are used. So, I'm not really getting the point. About your answer "No comments"... what was that supposed to mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondolkiri1 (talk • contribs) 20:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-02T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Mondolkiri1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mondolkiri1-2014-03-02T20:32:00.000Z-TAP_Portugal_destinations","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-02T20:51:00.000Z-Mondolkiri1-2014-03-02T20:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've left an extense note at your talk page. The articles you mention must be modified so that flags are removed. The "no comments" stuff was a sarcastic reply to you raising the flags matter as a verifiable one. Anyway, feel free to ask anything you want.--JetstreamerTalk20:51, 2 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-02T20:51:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-02T20:51:00.000Z-Mondolkiri1-2014-03-02T20:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, i completely understand your correction. I don't know but if you want to have informations you can see http://ohd.airports.com.mk/default.aspx?ItemID=361. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariiovalera (talk • contribs) 17:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-03T17:11:00.000Z","author":"Mariiovalera","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mariiovalera-2014-03-03T17:11:00.000Z-Ohrid_Airport","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-03T17:19:00.000Z-Mariiovalera-2014-03-03T17:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello. As per WP:BURDEN, it's you the one that has to provide inline citations for your changes, not me.--JetstreamerTalk17:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-03T17:19:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-03T17:19:00.000Z-Mariiovalera-2014-03-03T17:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
LV-BMT is in the desert since 18.12.2013 (source: Planespotters production list & airliners.net's picture on january 4th)
LV-CSD stored since 02.11.2013 (planefinder)
LV-CSF stored since 28.01.2014 (planefinder)
LV-CEK stored since 13.10.2013 (planefinder)
So there is indeed 7 A340-300 in Aerolineas Argentinas' Fleet, including 3 stored aircraft. Strictly speaking I didn't indicate the source, but in facts my modification is correct and verifiable. 94.143.7.25 (talk) 23:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-03T23:19:00.000Z","author":"94.143.7.25","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-94.143.7.25-2014-03-03T23:19:00.000Z-Aerolineas_Argentinas'_Fleet","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-04T00:00:00.000Z-94.143.7.25-2014-03-03T23:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Planespotters, planefinder. Those are not reliable sources.--JetstreamerTalk00:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-04T00:00:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-04T00:00:00.000Z-94.143.7.25-2014-03-03T23:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T19:20:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-04T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
My apologies. I didn't realize 1) that I forgot to fill the "Edit summary" field with my sources, 2) that I just got a new IP address. Furthermore, I made a mistake: LV-BMT had indeed left the fleet, but LV-FPU joined it in the end of 2013. So there are still 8 A340-300 in the fleet.
About LV-CSD and LV-CSF, they seems unused since Aerolineas Argentinas received their A330-200's. As my english is not perfect, I don't know if an unused aircraft can be considered as "stored". If not, then ok.
Otherwise, why do you consider that Planespotters & Planefinder are not reliable sources? Less than Aerotransport, for example? In my experience, none of them all (including ch-aviation or airliners.net) is perfectly and always right and updated. From time to time, one of them is more accurate and correct, and the next time it's another. I don't think you can trust aerotransport more just because it's a paid site. The best way is probably to crosscheck their informations. 94.143.7.25 (talk) 19:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-05T19:20:00.000Z","author":"94.143.7.25","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T19:20:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-04T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-05T19:30:00.000Z-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T19:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
You don't need to apologise. Yes, I have to concur with you that all the sources you mention are at the same level of reliability to such an extent that the discussion has never been closed at WT:AIRLINES. Ideally, the best source for any fleet is the airline's website. We may use that information for the article if you want, but I have some disagreements with an editor regarding the content of the fleet table when using the official reference.--JetstreamerTalk19:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-05T19:30:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-05T19:30:00.000Z-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T19:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T22:13:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-05T19:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
I agreed. But like you said, ideally... When the airline's website is obviously wrong (excluding normal update delays), I think it's far more relevant (even encyclopedicly speaking) to use another source, as reliable as possible, to provide an information in accordance with facts. Because luckily we're talking about facts here, not ideas or concepts! Example: Iran Air's fleet.94.143.7.25 (talk) 22:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-05T22:13:00.000Z","author":"94.143.7.25","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-94.143.7.25-2014-03-05T22:13:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-05T19:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by George2169 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T14:38:00.000Z","author":"George2169","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-George2169-2014-03-12T14:38:00.000Z-hello","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-12T14:48:00.000Z-George2169-2014-03-12T14:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello. Is there any way I can help you?--JetstreamerTalk14:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-12T14:48:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-12T14:48:00.000Z-George2169-2014-03-12T14:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I am not edit warring, so I think you have got the wrong person. User:Thecodingproject is the real edit war person, Look at his contribs, and also on my talk page is says 'Do not threaten me with blocks. This is rude and I prefer to discuss things formally.', so you must follow the rules you agreed to. --Sammen Salmonord (talk) 20:38, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:38:00.000Z","author":"Sammen Salmonord","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:38:00.000Z-Edit_War_Accusation","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Can someone please take a look at the contributions made by Thecodingproject (talk·contribs) to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370? S(he) has broken WP:3RR. Thanks.--JetstreamerTalk20:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thecodingproject-2014-03-09T20:42:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z","c-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:57:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was removing vandalism. Thecodingproject (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Thecodingproject","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Thecodingproject-2014-03-09T20:42:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:55:00.000Z-Thecodingproject-2014-03-09T20:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
This doesn't seem to be fighting vandalism to me. Neither this, this or this. You've already been warned about warring at your talk page.--JetstreamerTalk20:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:55:00.000Z-Thecodingproject-2014-03-09T20:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Yeah the guy is a fruitloop. Perhaps an admin should block him. --Sammen Salmonord (talk) 20:57, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Sammen Salmonord","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:57:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:58:00.000Z-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Let's wait for an admin response.--JetstreamerTalk20:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:58:00.000Z-Sammen_Salmonord-2014-03-09T20:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:03:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
Quite simply, you have no case. Two of the changes (the ones changing was to is) reflected consensus on the article's Talk page (and BLP policy) that in the absence of citable evidence that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and its passengers and crew no longer exist, they should be referred to in the present tense. In addition, see WP:EW. You cannot possibly make a case for edit warring by showing only a single instance of each edit; see the definition of edit warring. All you have shown thus far is that Thecodingproject made edits with which you disagree. DwpaulTalk 23:03, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Dwpaul","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:03:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:24:00.000Z-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
You're right. I've removed the request for admin intervention.--JetstreamerTalk23:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T23:24:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:24:00.000Z-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:27:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you. DwpaulTalk 23:27, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T23:27:00.000Z","author":"Dwpaul","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:27:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:29:00.000Z-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Thecodingproject and Dwpaul: I think I also need to apologise to Thecodingproject.--JetstreamerTalk23:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-09T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:29:00.000Z-Dwpaul-2014-03-09T23:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dwpaul-2014-03-13T01:33:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
FWIW, Sammen Salmonord has been blocked as a sock. DwpaulTalk 01:33, 13 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T01:33:00.000Z","author":"Dwpaul","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Dwpaul-2014-03-13T01:33:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-09T23:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
An editor is not letting mention worthy information in that article and keeps deleting it, some operators that are flying 748F in their branding are not being allowed to be named, nor are identified VIP operators of the BBJ version, so if someone spots a BA cargo 748 and checks at wiki its not listed in there, that's kind of odd. Also the article is missing information on cancelled orders by three companies Arik air, Emirates cargo/DAE and Guggenheim aviation, yet mentions Emirates and British Airways having considered the type initially, so firm orders cancelled or converted to another type is not worth a mention and is deleted, but something that was looked at as a possibility but never materialised is worthy of being in there.
My issue is with the fact that this is an article on a specific model, the last version of one of the most iconic aircrafts in history, so why cant every bit of relevant information be there referenced and mentioned as briefly as possible, why should we find info elsewhere and wonder why its not on Wikipedia, why do we have to look elsewhere to begin with when wiki should have jsut about all that matters and then we extend our search for more detailed info from there. 115.167.89.134 (talk) 03:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T03:54:00.000Z","author":"115.167.89.134","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-115.167.89.134-2014-03-13T03:54:00.000Z-Boeing_747-8_article","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-13T10:20:00.000Z-115.167.89.134-2014-03-13T03:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
I dont' know what are you talking about. I never edited the article.--JetstreamerTalk10:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T10:20:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-13T10:20:00.000Z-115.167.89.134-2014-03-13T03:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-115.167.89.134-2014-03-13T15:59:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-13T10:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
I thought all editors are concerned about issues at all wiki articles, was seeking your views on it i.e editor hounding an article as his own. 115.167.89.134 (talk) 15:59, 13 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T15:59:00.000Z","author":"115.167.89.134","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-115.167.89.134-2014-03-13T15:59:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-13T10:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
It's fine! Thank you for any constritive correction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondolkiri1 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-17T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Mondolkiri1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mondolkiri1-2014-03-17T08:43:00.000Z-Jetstar_Pacific_Airlines_-_Macau","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. There isn't either any official worldwide recognition of Northern Cyprus or Kosovo, so, in that case, Pristina should be changed to Serbia and Ercan (Nicosia) to the Republic of Cyprus, I guess. And I left both Ukraine and Russia (meaning "disputed"), I didn't replace Ukraine. Thanks for reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.37.12.44 (talk) 17:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-24T17:31:00.000Z","author":"188.37.12.44","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-188.37.12.44-2014-03-24T17:31:00.000Z-Turkish_Airlines_destinations_-_Simferopol","replies":[]}}-->
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Before reverting my edit again please see this. 24.47.140.246 (talk) 19:33, 27 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-27T19:33:00.000Z","author":"24.47.140.246","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-24.47.140.246-2014-03-27T19:33:00.000Z-1996_Charkhi_Dadri_mid_air_collision","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T19:44:00.000Z-24.47.140.246-2014-03-27T19:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
Before adding unsourced content again, please see this.--JetstreamerTalk19:44, 27 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-27T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T19:44:00.000Z-24.47.140.246-2014-03-27T19:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Actually, you don't really need a source to back what is plain obvious. And although that crash had been the first mid-air collision between commercial aircraft since 1979, that info is not that relevant anymore because there was another very similar crash in 2007, and we should mention both accidents. MarcosPassos (talk) 12:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-27T12:38:00.000Z","author":"MarcosPassos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarcosPassos-2014-03-27T12:38:00.000Z-RE","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T16:31:00.000Z-MarcosPassos-2014-03-27T12:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
WP:VERIFY.--JetstreamerTalk16:31, 27 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-27T16:31:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T16:31:00.000Z-MarcosPassos-2014-03-27T12:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarcosPassos-2014-03-28T01:19:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T16:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
What do you mean? There is a whole article for the Gol_Transportes_Aéreos_Flight_1907 crash in wikipedia. Do you think I'm making it up? MarcosPassos (talk) 01:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-28T01:19:00.000Z","author":"MarcosPassos","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MarcosPassos-2014-03-28T01:19:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-27T16:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-28T10:19:00.000Z-MarcosPassos-2014-03-28T01:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
I didn't say that. I know the existence of that article, but the addition of a wikilink to that article does not prove your statements in other articles. Have you read WP:VERIFY thoroughly?.--JetstreamerTalk10:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-28T10:19:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-28T10:19:00.000Z-MarcosPassos-2014-03-28T01:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:07:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-28T10:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
In spite of your efforts ([4]), your edits are still in conflict with one of the core content policies. I've reverted your last two edits accordingly. The source provided mirrors Wikipedia and WP:CIRCULAR applies. You need to provide reliable third-party sources.--JetstreamerTalk01:07, 29 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-29T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:07:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-28T10:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:33:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
I found a source for your edit. Please let me know what you think about this.--JetstreamerTalk01:33, 29 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-29T01:33:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:33:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarcosPassos-2014-03-29T02:05:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think it's good. Thanks. MarcosPassos (talk) 02:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-29T02:05:00.000Z","author":"MarcosPassos","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-MarcosPassos-2014-03-29T02:05:00.000Z-Jetstreamer-2014-03-29T01:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Both fixed.--JetstreamerTalk12:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-31T12:53:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-03-31T12:53:00.000Z-DPL_bot-2014-03-31T08:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello,
I would like to know how we can get permission and "legally" add photos to wikipedia from sites like airliners.net. Please describe the process.
Other than that, can you please add this photo to wikipedia? Please add it and send me its link.
Thanks in advance.
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I cannot upload the image. A valid license including the authorisation from the author is required.--JetstreamerTalk00:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-01T00:17:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-04-01T00:17:00.000Z-Rihazrihazrihaz-2014-03-31T13:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for the changes. How far you think the article is from gaining back its status as a featured article? Can it be worked towards a featured article status now? Aditya(talk • contribs)11:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-02T11:32:00.000Z","author":"Aditya Kabir","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aditya_Kabir-2014-04-02T11:32:00.000Z-Biman_Bangladesh_Airlines","replies":["c-Jetstreamer-2014-04-02T13:51:00.000Z-Aditya_Kabir-2014-04-02T11:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Aditya"}}-->
@Aditya Kabir: That's a simple question with a difficult answer. Hard to say. In the meantime, Ahnaaf (talk·contribs) and me are trying to improve the article by keeping all the information properly sourced. You are very welcome to join us!--JetstreamerTalk13:51, 2 April 2014 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-02T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Jetstreamer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jetstreamer-2014-04-02T13:51:00.000Z-Aditya_Kabir-2014-04-02T11:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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TagesschauPaeseItalia Anno1966 - in produzione Generetelegiornale Durata20 min ca. Lingua originaletedesco RealizzazioneCasa di produzioneRai Rete televisivaRai 2 (1966-1979)Rai 3 (1979-1987)Rai 3 Südtirol (1987-) Modifica dati su Wikidata · Manuale Tagesschau è il telegiornale in lingua tedesca trasmesso dalla sede Rai di Bolzano, filiale altoatesina del servizio pubblico radiotelevisivo italiano. Indice 1 Storia 2 Programmazione 2.1 Edizione ore 20:00 2.2 Edizione ore 22:10 (10...
British postal pioneer Thomas Fletcher WaghornThomas Waghorn, ca. 1847 by George HayterBorn(1800-06-20)20 June 1800Chatham, Medway, EnglandDied7 January 1850(1850-01-07) (aged 49)Islington, London, EnglandBuriedAll Saints', SnodlandAllegiance United KingdomService/branch Royal NavyCommandsCutterBattles/warsArakan WarSpouse(s)Elizabeth Bartlett Thomas Fletcher Waghorn (20 June 1800–7 January 1850) was an English sailor, navy officer, and postal pioneer who promoted and cla...
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