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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Gaganyaan-4. Thanks! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240228233500","author":"Ozzie10aaaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ozzie10aaaa-20240228233500-AfC_notification:_Draft:Gaganyaan-4_has_a_new_comment","replies":["c-Erick_Soares3-20240229003200-Ozzie10aaaa-20240228233500"]}}-->
Hi @Ozzie10aaaa: I saw it and I kindly disagree, since WP:TOO SOON says that "If sources do not exist, it is generally too soon for an article on that topic to be considered.", which, as yourself well said in the comment, isn't the case here (but could be for Shenzhou 18 or SpaceX Crew-9 and clearly is for Draft:Gaganyaan-2 and Draft:Gaganyaan-3). There's no indication that "TOO SOON" would block events that are still a long time to happen, if there are independent sources, or Polaris Dawn, dearMoon project, and Boeing Crewed Flight Test could have been deleted long ago. Personally, I only sent the article for review because I will only get noticed by the editors if it goes to the main page (just see how quickly everyone developed the crew biographies). Cheers, Erick Soares3 (talk) 00:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240229003200","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240229003200-Ozzie10aaaa-20240228233500","replies":[]}}-->
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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Gaganyaan-4. Thanks! (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 09:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304093700","author":"Sdsds","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sdsds-20240304093700-AfC_notification:_Draft:Gaganyaan-4_has_a_new_comment_2","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014\u00a0\ud835\udc2c\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc12\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc2c\u00a0\u2014"}}-->
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Thanks very much for your work on the Gaganyaan-4 draft. Did you find anything while developing that article that would help expand Human-rating_certification#ISRO? (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 09:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304095100","author":"Sdsds","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sdsds-20240304095100-Request_for_assistance_at_Human-rating_certification#ISRO","replies":["c-Erick_Soares3-20240304113400-Sdsds-20240304095100"],"displayName":"\u2014\u00a0\ud835\udc2c\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc12\ud835\udc1d\ud835\udc2c\u00a0\u2014"}}-->
@Sdsds Hello and thanks! I only saw about the engine, but it felt better suited for the Gaganyaan-1 background (since it was one of the last tests before its launch). I saw your comment in the draft: if you have anything for the page, you can add it (as they say, be bold). This draft thing is making me highly frustrated: while the Wikipedia is supposed to be collaborative, everyone seems afraid to collaborate on it - while the crew pages were fast developed in a few days time. I'm almost moving it to main space myself, since there are pages (like I've cited elsewhere) that have far less material and no one has "killed it"... Erick Soares3 (talk) 11:34, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304113400","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240304113400-Sdsds-20240304095100","replies":["c-Sdsds-20240304120900-Erick_Soares3-20240304113400"]}}-->
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@Sdsds I only created the draft for G-4 because I honestly thought that we wouldn't have anything of substance until far later, while I created the Gaganyaan-1 page directly (way back in 2022) because I found a large amount of sources. For much, I would like to invite the users from the local India Wikipedias to help out, since I'm betting that there must have more sources in the local languages than in English. Erick Soares3 (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304122000","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240304122000-Sdsds-20240304120900","replies":["c-Erick_Soares3-20240304123100-Erick_Soares3-20240304122000"]}}-->
As a possible relevant example: I've created the pages VLS-1 V01, VLS-1 V02 and Félix I, and there are far more sources in Portuguese than in English (for the first two cases, I couldn't find anything in English). Erick Soares3 (talk) 12:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304123100","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240304123100-Erick_Soares3-20240304122000","replies":["c-Erick_Soares3-20240304163000-Erick_Soares3-20240304123100"]}}-->
@Sdsds I have just saw what you did in the draft: it is looking great! When you have time, look at Draft:Gaganyaan-2 and Draft:Gaganyaan-3: it will take sometime until we have something for them, but those pages need to be somewhat active. Erick Soares3 (talk) 16:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240304163000","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240304163000-Erick_Soares3-20240304123100","replies":[]}}-->
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@DoubleGrazing:, the Gaganyaan-4 page was created as a stub, long after the creation of the Draft, and would have been sent to Draft space anyway. Could you just move the material to the main space? Erick Soares3 (talk) 10:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307104900","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240307104900-DoubleGrazing-20240307082600","replies":["c-DoubleGrazing-20240307113500-Erick_Soares3-20240307104900"]}}-->
Move what material to the main space? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307113500","author":"DoubleGrazing","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DoubleGrazing-20240307113500-Erick_Soares3-20240307104900","replies":["c-Erick_Soares3-20240307114000-DoubleGrazing-20240307113500"]}}-->
The Draft:Gaganyaan-4: it predates the page Gaganyaan-4 for several days, and it seems that I can't just copy-and-paste since it would be necessary to move the page History. One option would be just to improve the stub, but it would make no sense, since there's a page already done. Erick Soares3 (talk) 11:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307114000","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240307114000-DoubleGrazing-20240307113500","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you for bringing this translation of a well-developed article from Portuguese. It has been a controversial project with worthy aims, and I think that the article navigates the topic with an appropriate point of view.
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@Klbrain: thanks! I was surprised to see that this project didn't have an article until now, and after some research it became clear that the project have had scientific and international notability for several years. Erick Soares3 (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240518114800","author":"Erick Soares3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Erick_Soares3-20240518114800-Klbrain-20240518081700","replies":[]}}-->
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