There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.61.224.112.80 (talk) 05:05, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240421050500","author":"61.224.112.80","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-61.224.112.80-20240421050500-ANI_Notice","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Information Support has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 25 § Information Support until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240425192000","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20240425192000-\"Information_Support\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Simla Convention, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Kautilya3 (talk) 16:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240526164400","author":"Kautilya3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kautilya3-20240526164400-May_2024","replies":[]}}-->

You have recently edited a page related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, a topic designated as contentious. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and does not imply that there are any issues with your editing.

A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as contentious topics. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Wikipedia’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Wikipedia administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project.

Within contentious topics, editors should edit carefully and constructively, refrain from disrupting the encyclopedia, and:

• adhere to the purposes of Wikipedia;
• comply with all applicable policies and guidelines;
• follow editorial and behavioural best practice;
• comply with any page restrictions in force within the area of conflict; and
• refrain from gaming the system.

Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard or you may learn more about this contentious topic here. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{Ctopics/aware}} template.

Kautilya3 (talk) 16:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240526164500","author":"Kautilya3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kautilya3-20240526164500-Introduction_to_contentious_topics","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for your contributions to CW Chu College. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and those sources should be reliable and independent of the subject. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240614010500","author":"Significa liberdade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Significa_liberdade-20240614010500-CW_Chu_College_moved_to_draftspace","replies":[],"displayName":"Significa liberdade (she\/her)"}}-->

Thanks for uploading File:National Stadium.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240628172300","author":"B-bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B-bot-20240628172300-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:National_Stadium.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for uploading File:CHiQ Company Logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240717171100","author":"B-bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B-bot-20240717171100-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:CHiQ_Company_Logo.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for uploading File:Changhong Logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240717171300","author":"B-bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B-bot-20240717171300-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Changhong_Logo.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Chengdu Airport has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 14 § Chengdu Airport until a consensus is reached. Johnj1995 (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240814190300","author":"Johnj1995","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Johnj1995-20240814190300-\"Chengdu_Airport\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Template:Des has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 15 § Template:Des until a consensus is reached. Gonnym (talk) 23:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240815230600","author":"Gonnym","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gonnym-20240815230600-\"Template:Des\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Template:OURL has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 16 § Template:OURL until a consensus is reached. — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 18:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816180000","author":"GhostInTheMachine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GhostInTheMachine-20240816180000-\"Template:OURL\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Template:Usen has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 16 § Template:Usen until a consensus is reached. — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 18:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816180300","author":"GhostInTheMachine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GhostInTheMachine-20240816180300-\"Template:Usen\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Cfls

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username MPGuy2824 and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've asked for a discussion about the redirect Zhujianbu, created by you. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 1 § Zhujianbu.

If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|MPGuy2824}}. And don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ . Thanks!

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

-MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240901084700","author":"MPGuy2824","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MPGuy2824-20240901084700-Deletion_discussion_about_Zhujianbu","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, hi.

I notice that you've added the phrase "shortly as" to the secondary or familiar names of some colleges and universities - e.g. Washington State University Vancouver; Washington State University Tri-Cities. I've never seen that construction before. I an reading it to mean about the same as, "shortened to", or "also known as", and wonder whether those more familiar phrases might be more suitable and less confusing to the average reader. Do you have examples of the phrase in common use elsewhere? Thanks in advance.

Also, is there any particular reason why at Michigan Law School you prefer "branded" to something more direct like, "also known as"? I suppose there's nothing pejorative about the word "branded", but it indicates that "Michigan Law" is how the school instructs people to refer to it when in fact it's just - what people call it, with or without the school's efforts. Thanks in advance for that too! JohnInDC (talk) 01:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240902010600","author":"JohnInDC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JohnInDC-20240902010600-\"Shortly_as\"","replies":["c-JohnInDC-20240902122000-JohnInDC-20240902010600"]}}-->

Hi again. I just went ahead and changed "shortly as" where I could find it to something more suitable. A search of English Wikipedia only turned it up in a few places, so it's not a standard English phrase that somehow I've not encountered. Sorry to have bothered you with that. JohnInDC (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240902122000","author":"JohnInDC","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JohnInDC-20240902122000-JohnInDC-20240902010600","replies":[]}}-->

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by I dream of horses was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

There could be potentially a redirect from CW Chu College to Chinese University of Hong Kong. Perhaps there could even be a section in the Chinese University of Hong Kong. But for now, the sources are a bit lacking.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:CW Chu College and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 00:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906004500","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-20240906004500-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_CW_Chu_College_(September_6)","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Cfls! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 00:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906004500","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-20240906004500-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_CW_Chu_College_(September_6)-1","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Hands-On Museum has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 9 § Hands-On Museum until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 17:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240909173800","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20240909173800-\"Hands-On_Museum\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

The redirect Hku has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 11 § Hku until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 21:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911211100","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20240911211100-\"Hku\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

A redirect or redirects you have created has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 11 § Hku until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911211600","author":"Rusalkii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rusalkii-20240911211600-Redirect_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Cfls. Thank you for your work on UHawaii. Another editor, Kingsmasher678, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Kingsmasher678}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 18:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240919184400","author":"Kingsmasher678","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kingsmasher678-20240919184400-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Cfls! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Xiran Jay Zhao that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Thank you. Sariel Xilo (talk) 00:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926001200","author":"Sariel Xilo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sariel_Xilo-20240926001200-September_2024","replies":["c-Cfls-20240926001600-Sariel_Xilo-20240926001200"]}}-->

1. The "Chinese-born" is a summary from the content of the article. It was not contested in the main article, so that it was perceived not to be a "subject of a dispute".

2. Adding native name with reliable sources to articles is a common practice in Wikipedia. Please stop reverting the article, and gain consensus in Talk before you make any further reversion. Cfls (talk) 00:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926001600","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20240926001600-Sariel_Xilo-20240926001200","replies":[]}}-->

Just so you know, you generally don't have to specify HTTPS for most domains, where it is often the default when available and no protocol is specified. Remsense ‥ 论 15:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005153200","author":"Remsense","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Remsense-20241005153200-HTTPS","replies":["c-Cfls-20241005174200-Remsense-20241005153200"]}}-->

I wouldn't consider it constructive to revert all of these edits. Also you may know that, "it is often the default when available and no protocol is specified" is a browser-dependent feature. You should not assume that all browsers will attempt the HTTPS connection first. In addition, if the first connection is made using HTTP and the website is not set up to automatically forward HTTP traffic to HTTPS, the latest version of Google Chrome will automatically disconnect the connection to the website in Incognito and require the user to click and confirm before the connection is proceeded. I believe that clarifying the connection protocol used by sites when they support HTTPS will improve information security and provide greater safety for all Wikipedia readers. My suggestion is that you might consider reversing any of your previous revertion edits that involved removing the HTTPS protocol. Thank you. Cfls (talk) 17:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005174200","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241005174200-Remsense-20241005153200","replies":["c-Remsense-20241005181000-Cfls-20241005174200"]}}-->

Even if it does, I don't see what the point is: HTTPS doesn't obscure that a connection was made to a particular domain, so if pages are served in HTTPS it makes no difference for privacy if an attempt is made in HTTP first. Remsense ‥ 论 18:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005181000","author":"Remsense","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Remsense-20241005181000-Cfls-20241005174200","replies":["c-Cfls-20241007135400-Remsense-20241005181000"]}}-->

What I mean is that it depends on the website itself whether to redirect HTTP traffic to HTTPS. Some websites configure it, while many do not. In addition, some browsers may try HTTPS first and then HTTP if it fails. However, this is a browser-dependent feature, not universal. Many browsers do not support this feature. Cfls (talk) 13:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007135400","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Cfls-20241007135400-Remsense-20241005181000","replies":[]}}-->

Abbreviation of provincial committees of the CPC/CCP. For example, Hunan Province, its name is CCP Hunan Provincial Committee, officially CPC Hunan Provincial Committee. Huangdan2060 (talk) 10:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019104200","author":"Huangdan2060","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Huangdan2060-20241019104200-about_CCP_Provincial_Committee","replies":["c-Cfls-20241019150200-Huangdan2060-20241019104200"]}}-->

A reliable source is needed in any case. Cfls (talk) 15:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019150200","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241019150200-Huangdan2060-20241019104200","replies":[]}}-->

Full names about Special Committees of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference. "Committee of Education, Science, Culture, Health and Sports" is short for "Committee of Education, Science, Health, and Sports of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference" or "Committee of Education, Science, Health, and Sports of the CPPCC National Committee". Sentences in the source: "The Committee of Education, Science, Art, Health, and Sports of the CPPCC National Committee will be renamed the Committee of Education, Science, Health, and Sports of the CPPCC National Committee." source: https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/t0280_PRC_reform_plan_2018_EN.pdf, page 30. Why delete their full names? Huangdan2060 (talk) 12:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020125500","author":"Huangdan2060","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Huangdan2060-20241020125500-Full_names_about_Special_Committees_of_the_Chinese_People's_Political_Consultati","replies":["c-Cfls-20241020201700-Huangdan2060-20241020125500"]}}-->

They are the Special Committees of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference. The official English name does not have any redundant suffix, per official source. Moreover, the parent organizations of these Special Committees have already been clearly specified in the lede of the entry. No need for this redundancy. Cfls (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020201700","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241020201700-Huangdan2060-20241020125500","replies":["c-Huangdan2060-20241022130000-Cfls-20241020201700"]}}-->

In English media in China, Special Committees of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference are given in full, for example: "Zhang Xiaolian, deputy head of the Committee on Economic Affairs of the 13th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, is under investigation for suspected severe violations of Party discipline and the law." source: Chinadaily; "Gou, also a deputy head of the Committee on Ethnic and Religious Affairs of the CPPCC National Committee, is investigated by the Communist Party of China Central Commission for Discipline Inspection and the National Commission of Supervision, according to the statement." source: Xinhua--Huangdan2060 (talk) 13:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022130000","author":"Huangdan2060","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Huangdan2060-20241022130000-Cfls-20241020201700","replies":[]}}-->

Please don't remove the {{R from page move}} from redirects after a page move, as you did at Ministry of Education and Training (Vietnam), Ministry of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs, and Federal Statistical System of the United States. There's no good reason for doing so and it's very misleading for folks who patrol or visit these redirects. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031175700","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700-Removing_r_from_page_move_cat","replies":["c-Cfls-20241031175800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700","c-Cfls-20241031180000-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700","c-Cfls-20241031180100-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700"]}}-->

Got it! Thank you so much for the notice!!! Cfls (talk) 17:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031175800","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241031175800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700","replies":[]}}-->

I am so sorry for not knowing this. I will not remove the "R from page move" afterward. Thank you and have a good day! Cfls (talk) 18:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031180000","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241031180000-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700","replies":[]}}-->

I thought it was a placeholder for people to replace with a more accurate description/explanation for the redirection. I am sorry for my misunderstanding. Again, thank you for the notice! Cfls (talk) 18:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031180100","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241031180100-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031175700","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031180300-Cfls-20241031180100"]}}-->

No worries, these things happen. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031180300","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241031180300-Cfls-20241031180100","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! Voting in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241119004500","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, can you tell me why you changed archive settings? Bogazicili (talk) 18:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125181000","author":"Bogazicili","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bogazicili-20241125181000-Talk:Turkey","replies":["c-Cfls-20241125181400-Bogazicili-20241125181000","c-Cfls-20241125181700-Bogazicili-20241125181000"]}}-->

The Talk page is too long. Adjust the archive settings to better facilitate readers and editors to navigate the Talk page, participate in timely discussions, and contribute to new discussions. Cfls (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125181400","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241125181400-Bogazicili-20241125181000","replies":[]}}-->

Your alternation to at least 8 topics will make the Talk page unnecessarily long and hard to navigate. Cfls (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125181700","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241125181700-Bogazicili-20241125181000","replies":["c-Bogazicili-20241125182400-Cfls-20241125181700"]}}-->

It's too long because there are ongoing issues. This is a contentious topic.

5 topics is ok though, please do not change other settings. Bogazicili (talk) 18:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125182400","author":"Bogazicili","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bogazicili-20241125182400-Cfls-20241125181700","replies":[]}}-->

A tag has been placed on Andrew Gutman (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

• disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
• disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
• is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129170600","author":"Shhhnotsoloud","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241129170600-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Andrew_Gutman_(disambiguation)","replies":[]}}-->

Would putting the portrait of Yoon in the background section be an acceptable compromise? It's still a relevant image and we should not be relying on sidebars to show images per WP:SIDEBAR, since sidebars don't show on mobile. Thanks, charlotte ^👸♥📱 06:35, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241205063500","author":"Queen of Hearts mobile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205063500-Special:Diff\/1261278494","replies":["c-Cfls-20241205063900-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205063500"],"displayName":"charlotte"}}-->

Okay... but it would be better to be replaced by the scene photo of the congressional voting that will be held later this week. It is good to show the portrait of Yoon for now. Additionally, please consider to leave an invisible comment there after the portrait of Yoon for future updates. Thank you. Cfls (talk) 06:39, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241205063900","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cfls-20241205063900-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205063500","replies":["c-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205064300-Cfls-20241205063900"]}}-->

Thanks; I've just remembered I can use {{if mobile}} so the image is in the sidebar on desktop but still shows on mobile, which is probably the best option. charlotte ^👸♥📱 06:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241205064300","author":"Queen of Hearts mobile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205064300-Cfls-20241205063900","replies":["c-Cfls-20241205064400-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205064300"],"displayName":"charlotte"}}-->

Great! Nice to hear that. Have a good day! Cfls (talk) 06:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241205064400","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Cfls-20241205064400-Queen_of_Hearts_mobile-20241205064300","replies":[]}}-->

You moved numerous articles to titles based on official names, in violation of longstanding policy and consensus that WP uses titles based on common names. Please familiarize yourself with WP:COMMONNAME and the two decades of lengthy debates that went into that policy as currently formulated. The WP community has had this debate dozens of times and the consensus was that we don't use official names. For example, we use the common name United States rather than the official name the United States of America. Coolcaesar (talk) 14:14, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207141400","author":"Coolcaesar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coolcaesar-20241207141400-Pattern_of_disruptive_page_moves_in_January_2024","replies":["c-Coolcaesar-20241207142200-Coolcaesar-20241207141400"]}}-->

And then I just refreshed my memory and we already had this discussion in January 2024. I remember now why we had a disagreement. You did not understand the fundamental difference between WP essays, guidelines, and policies. It's the policies that control. See WP:POLICIES. --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207142200","author":"Coolcaesar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coolcaesar-20241207142200-Coolcaesar-20241207141400","replies":["c-Cfls-20241207161000-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","c-Cfls-20241207161500-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","c-Cfls-20241207161600-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","c-Cfls-20241207162300-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","c-Cfls-20241207162700-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","c-Cfls-20241207163300-Coolcaesar-20241207142200"]}}-->

WP:GOODFAITH. Accusing "disruptive" is not assuming good faith in any sense. Cfls (talk) 16:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207161000","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207161000-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":[]}}-->

You were throwing a lot of accusations at me, instead of discussing the issue itself. Cfls (talk) 16:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207161500","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207161500-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":[]}}-->

That's back to discussing the topic itself. If "UCSB" and "UCR" were the WP:COMMONNAME for both of the schools, I suppose we did not see that our Wikipedia main articles for those schools were UCSB and UCR instead. Cfls (talk) 16:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207161600","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207161600-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":[]}}-->

It is also the same case for other University of California schools. However, I am open for discussion and looking forward to reading your opinions, as long as your responses are practicing WP:GOODFAITH. Cfls (talk) 16:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207162300","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207162300-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":[]}}-->

We are having some different opinions on what would be the best titles for certain articles, in according to established community agreements and for the community's and the public interests. We are not accusing or defending any behavioral issues. Let us focus on the topic, shall we? Cfls (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207162700","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207162700-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":[]}}-->

I fully understand the WP:COMMONNAME policy, as well as all other polities, guidelines, and other community documents. From my point of view, I assume the university's main pages are practicing the WP:COMMONNAME policy and thus, their respective article title names are their WP:COMMONNAMEs. In this sense, I do not believe there were any problems of using the established consensus of institutional common names in their affiliate entities' articles. Cfls (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207163300","author":"Cfls","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cfls-20241207163300-Coolcaesar-20241207142200","replies":["c-Coolcaesar-20241207182200-Cfls-20241207163300"]}}-->

I think I figured out what happened, as I explained at length on the article move page for UCSF Medical Center.

If you were studying in one of the academic fields where UC is not dominant, it's possible that you were not sufficiently exposed to the common usage among UC people of abbreviating UC campus names in the names of campus units. So if we are in that scenario, it would be improper of me to assume that such usage is common knowledge in all academic fields. And if you were unaware of that, that could explain how you could have started moving titles in good faith, and if that was the case, then I must apologize. --Coolcaesar (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241207182200","author":"Coolcaesar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Coolcaesar-20241207182200-Cfls-20241207163300","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Cfls, I’ve noticed your edits on Chinese universities and have seen past discussions regarding your editing behaviour. I’ve tried to review and reintegrate some of your content with reliable sources. Regarding your edits on Zhejiang Wanli University [1], I wanted to leave you a message since you’ve indicated a preference for direct discussion.

• About lead section: You reverted changes to the lead section, citing that the content was sourced. My reasoning for making these edits was that the lead overly emphasised one former name of the university (WP:UNDUE). Unless a former name is well-known, it should not be highlighted disproportionately. Typically, such details belong in the History section unless they hold significant relevance. From my review, this particular former name doesn’t seem to meet the threshold of notability, as it is not widely cited or recognised. If it is indeed notable, there should be ample reliable sources that discuss it prominently.
• Clarification on 'University' vs 'College': Your note, "To date, this institution of higher education has not been granted 'university' status but 'college' status instead," may be confusing to English-speaking readers. While I understand the distinction often made in Chinese between 學院 (xuéyuàn, "college") and 大學 (dàxué, "university"), this distinction is not currently reflected in the legal definitions. Based on my understanding, the term 普通高等学校 (general higher education institution) and 本科院校 (undergraduate institution) is now used as legal classifications [2]. The renaming from 學院 to 大學 is not considered as an upgrade, as reflected in recent notices [3]. Also, in Chinese, we refer to MIT as 麻省理工學院 (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), using the term 學院 (college), even though it functions as a university in the global context. This underscores the potential confusion when translating these terms.
• The use of English: You noted that "Use American English" as the China article on Wikipedia", but I wonder if there is any consensus regarding this. I noticed that 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre uses British English, and if there were a consensus, should it be re-written?
• About reliable sources: You mentioned, "need WP:RS and should not be WP:PRIMARY". However, upon reviewing WP:PRIMARY, it states that "Primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them." Most higher education institutions, by nature, are considered reputable to some degree. While it is preferable to use secondary or alternative non-primary sources, these are not always readily available. By the way, I encourage you to review the pages for National Tsing Hua University, National Taiwan University and other Taiwanese universities using the same criteria. If they do not meet your standards, it would be consistent to revise or remove content accordingly.

Let me know your thoughts, and I look forward to discussing this further. Free ori (talk) 02:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208024400","author":"Free ori","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Free_ori-20241208024400-Regarding_your_edits_on_Chinese_universities","replies":[]}}-->